How do we Know When a Person who Claims to be Born-Again was Never Born-Again?
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WE do not cooperate with God's grace as though we could decide to do otherwise . It is God's undeserved love in action. It is not in order to 'give us a chance', but so as to bring about His will in us despite what we are. WE accept it by His working, and respond to it by obedience, thanking Him for what He has done
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No you are not
Grace is UNDESERVED
I sure hope that God doesn't have to tell you on judgment day.
New American Standard Bible
"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
No you are not
Grace is UNDESERVED
I sure hope that God doesn't have to tell you on judgment day.
New American Standard Bible
"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
No your will responds to God's grace, not cooperates with it. You are not free to cooperate with Him left to yourself. The Bible says men are dead in sin. How will they then cooperate with God?
Free will is much overstated. You are free to sin, you are not free not to sin. Our freewill is limited (if we have it at all. and not just a limited choice). We are limited by our desires. It is only God in His grace that can give us the desire and enable us to be holy. If it is left to 'our cooperation' we will continue as unholy. Beware!!!
Free will is much overstated. You are free to sin, you are not free not to sin. Our freewill is limited (if we have it at all. and not just a limited choice). We are limited by our desires. It is only God in His grace that can give us the desire and enable us to be holy. If it is left to 'our cooperation' we will continue as unholy. Beware!!!
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Its a weird thing to say, isn't it? Co-operate with Grace.
It would be like telling a paralyzed person to co-operate with their wheelchair. I think they already know that without it, they can go nowhere.
And then tell them that if they don't co-operate with their wheelchair then there will be dire consequences when they don't show up to work the next day.
Ok. Thank you???
I'll be sure to co-operate with Gods Grace... Anything else?
It would be like telling a paralyzed person to co-operate with their wheelchair. I think they already know that without it, they can go nowhere.
And then tell them that if they don't co-operate with their wheelchair then there will be dire consequences when they don't show up to work the next day.
Ok. Thank you???
I'll be sure to co-operate with Gods Grace... Anything else?
We can NEVER know who is "truly born again" because we cannot read people's hearts. There are behaviors that would indicate that someone is not walking in the will of God, however. When someone is living an unrepentant sinful lifestyle, we can certainly discern that that person in not walking in the will of God.
Personally, I don't believe one can be born again more than once. We can fall away, live in unrepentant sin, but once we come out of that lifestyle, we make a re-commitment to Christ, but we do not become born again, again. I know there are people who disagree with this (the Wesleyans, for instance), but I feel that when God said that He would never leave us nor forsake us, that was meant for eternity.
Personally, I don't believe one can be born again more than once. We can fall away, live in unrepentant sin, but once we come out of that lifestyle, we make a re-commitment to Christ, but we do not become born again, again. I know there are people who disagree with this (the Wesleyans, for instance), but I feel that when God said that He would never leave us nor forsake us, that was meant for eternity.
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the op is teaching and honestly, it seems to be some bizarre mix of Catholicism...considering he did another op from the 'book of wisdom'...not part of the biblical canon, operates in his own 'free will', mixes the commandments with grace, states God's grace is not enough, and basically considers his words to be inline with God's as he keeps telling people they are going to pay for not listening to his warnings
anybody else seeing that?
anybody else seeing that?
