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kodiak

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the -vast- majority of trump supporters are doing -much- more than merely checking a box or pulling a lever...
Please provide evidence of this claim. I would say some are, but how do you come to the conclusion of vast majority?
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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I find this very offensive. As if you have a key or monopoly on all the "right decisions Christians should make."

It's one thing to oppose Trump, it's anything thing to falsely label Christians who support him as cultists.
frankly i don't care if you find it offensive...i have found the behavior and attitudes of trump supporters on this forum over the past year to be -extremely- offensive...-where were you then-??

as for how i labeled the trump supporters...in scripture jesus teaches us various attitudes and behaviors that a saved person should have...meanwhile the trump supporters have given themselves over completely to someone who does the exact opposite...

God says 'you shall not murder'
trump can murder someone and not lose a single supporter...

whichever one of these two you follow is going to be the lord of your life...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Please provide evidence of this claim. I would say some are, but how do you come to the conclusion of vast majority?
i have run into numerous trump supporters and i have yet to find a single one who -isn't-
 
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CharlieGrown

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i have run into numerous trump supporters and i have yet to find a single one who -isn't-
Jesus said there are two types of people- Wheat and Tares:
You believe there are Wheat and Trump supporters.

That is offensive.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Jesus said there are two types of people- Wheat and Tares:
You believe there are Wheat and Trump supporters.

That is offensive.
actually i believe there are other types of tares too...most plants come in multiple varieties...
 

Bookends

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you seem to think trump is cyrus...

you need to consider that he is actually zedekiah...
No, I'm not looking to Trump to lead the Christian Church to purity or a new world "Christian" order.

I'm Just looking to him to break the stronghold of our elitist politicians on both sides of the isle. I also agree with him on many of my conservative issues.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Well I support Trump but I very much serve God. so there you just met one :p
serving God by making excuses for sexual abuse?

i'll have to keep looking...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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No, I'm not looking to Trump to lead the Christian Church to purity or a new world "Christian" order.

I'm Just looking to him to break the stronghold of our elitist politicians on both sides of the isle. I also agree with him on many of my conservative issues.
again...consider zedekiah...destined for failure and leader of a people doomed to judgment...
 

Demi777

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serving God by making excuses for sexual abuse?

i'll have to keep looking...
Well if you were talking about Hillary and Bill ... this would have been accurate. Where did Trump ABUSE woman sexually? I havent heard a lot about rape about him? I did from the Clinton's but not Trump besides one accusation.
Plus I never excused sexual ABUSE. Dont put words in my mouth I didnt say.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Well if you were talking about Hillary and Bill ... this would have been accurate. Where did Trump ABUSE woman sexually? I havent heard a lot about rape about him? I did from the Clinton's but not Trump besides one accusation.
Plus I never excused sexual ABUSE. Dont put words in my mouth I didnt say.
it's actually around -ten- accounts of sexual assault by trump now...including multiple witnesses saying he walked in on underage 'miss teen USA' contestants while undressed...
 

Demi777

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it's actually around -ten- accounts of sexual assault by trump now...including multiple witnesses saying he walked in on underage 'miss teen USA' contestants while undressed...
In case you didnt know, inspections like that are his job. plus he has to pick who is the ''most beautiful''. Since when is looking sexual abuse? did fire darts shoot out of his eyes?
 

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frankly i don't care if you find it offensive...i have found the behavior and attitudes of trump supporters on this forum over the past year to be -extremely- offensive...-where were you then-??

as for how i labeled the trump supporters...in scripture jesus teaches us various attitudes and behaviors that a saved person should have...meanwhile the trump supporters have given themselves over completely to someone who does the exact opposite...

God says 'you shall not murder'
trump can murder someone and not lose a single supporter...

whichever one of these two you follow is going to be the lord of your life...
First, I haven't been on CC for a long time. I've been busy taking care of my family. Besides, I can only respond to what I read. Hold me accountable for what I say, not other Trump supporters. I would never call Hillary supporters who are Christians as cultists, even though I disagree with them. It is not biblical not to judge a believer's heart, his or her standing with the Lord? You have done just that!

Second, Yah, well Hillary did murder, and more then one...

Thirdly, so I take you don't vote at all, at the risk you might give your life to them?
 
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renewed_hope

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frankly i don't care if you find it offensive...i have found the behavior and attitudes of trump supporters on this forum over the past year to be -extremely- offensive...-where were you then-??

as for how i labeled the trump supporters...in scripture jesus teaches us various attitudes and behaviors that a saved person should have...meanwhile the trump supporters have given themselves over completely to someone who does the exact opposite...

God says 'you shall not murder'
trump can murder someone and not lose a single supporter...

whichever one of these two you follow is going to be the lord of your life...
At work the other day we had a meeting about how the election was affecting everyone. Afterwards, it had me really thinking....we have serious issues with both candidates, one who has clearly broken the law and denies it, making excuses for her actions....then we have Trump lol..who is known for being short tempered and a firecracker who clearly doesn't think about repercussions before he speaks which could land us in trouble. My theory is Americans (generally speaking) feel as though either choice we make will have a negative impact on on this country and as a result, so many feel hopeless and it's impacting how we respond to each other and how we take things.

It doesn't matter who you choose to vote for, we can't control who will become our next president, but we can control our actions and how we respond to others. It concerns me that you have a problem with people who support Trump instead of trying to see both sides of the coins. Yes, trump may have a few dozen skeletons in his closet but he may have a few good ideas for our country and he has a direct personality like you have...black and white and that may just what our country needs right now
 
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KimPetras

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it's actually around -ten- accounts of sexual assault by trump now...including multiple witnesses saying he walked in on underage 'miss teen USA' contestants while undressed...
On top of that, there is no denying Trump admitted to walking in their dressing rooms and laughed at the reason he gave for doing it, "being the owner I get to inspect things". This is documented.

To me, that is sexual abuse. The fact he was the owner of the pageant doesn't make it acceptable to violate young women in their dressing rooms. For as much anti-trans restroom discussions that we've had here on CC, I don't see anyone bringing that point up against Trump. He is untouchable... he gets a free pass... :(
 

Demi777

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Plus Trump has done many good things in the past and now.
Here he saved 400 stranded Marines
200 Stranded Marines Needed A Plane Ride Home, Here's How Donald Trump Responded | The Sean Hannity Show | The Sean Hannity Show

Here he saved the life of a little girl
Airline Couldn't Help Sick Child, So Donald Trump CAME TO THE RESCUE! - The Political Insider

Here he saved a farm of a lady to not be closed
https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-once-saved-a-womans-farm-from-foreclosure

and the list goes on and on throughout his whole life
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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In case you didnt know, inspections like that are his job. plus he has to pick who is the ''most beautiful''. Since when is looking sexual abuse? did fire darts shoot out of his eyes?
'inspection' of undressed underage girls is his job?

sorry...you've just lost all credibility forever...
 

Demi777

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'inspection' of undressed underage girls is his job?

sorry...you've just lost all credibility forever...
If you sign up for a contest like this you really think they dont know hes gonna come through ALL the dressing rooms? Come on now. They know what they sign up for. Is it okay that he does it like that without knocking? No. But still he does do his job and he uses it as a alibi.
 

kodiak

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i have run into numerous trump supporters and i have yet to find a single one who -isn't-
You do realize that is not proper evidence, right?

I will probably vote for Trump, but I am definitely not following him. He has done a lot of bad, and I will not try to make excuses for it. I definitely don't condone sin, but everyone sins and I have to vote for 1 of 2 people....I vote based on who I think would be better as President. I would consider voting for a third person if that vote actually meant something, but since not enough people will abandon the two party system, I will vote for one of those two. If a third party candidate has no way of winning and I vote for them, in my opinion it is saying who cares if the worst possible person gets in, just as long as I didn't vote for them. I don't vote for one of the 2 and the worst one gets in, then my conscience will never let me live down that I could have voted for the better one, but I let the worst one take office.

If I vote based on morals alone, no one could be president except God. If King David were running for president today, I would vote for him. He was a man after God's own heart. Sure he sinned (murdered), but God forgives, just like he does for me. Sure Trump's sin seems inexcusable to us, but God can forgive him and I pray that Trump and Clinton will both turn to God, if they are not now. (worded this way, because I have no clue what has happened with either since a few days ago....things can start to change in a couple days.)

This is all just my opinion, so I don't expect others to believe the same way I do.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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It is not biblical not to judge a believer's heart, his or her standing with the Lord? You have done just that!

Second, Yah, well Hillary did murder, and more then one...

Thirdly, so I take you don't vote at all, at the risk you might give your life to them?
first...it -is- biblical to judge if a person is truly the christian they claim to be...it is -unbiblical- to suggest that we simply have to take their word for it...why else would there be so many warnings in the new testament about false brethren?

you can save your second point for a hillary supporter...

third...i do vote...there is no risk in my voting for a candidate so long as i don't have to choose between my faith and that candidate...