John McCain withdraws support for Donald Trump

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Desdichado

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I don't think it was a deflection at all and I think it drives home the point of how the left uses terminology to paint a picture that may not be there. But you gotta have eyes to see and ears to hear to spot it.
Yeah, the more I look into the issue, the more I think that's the case.
 

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I would argue that scantily clad women walk out in front of the cameras for ALL to see.
Choice is involved in that. I can see how it gets sketchy because just being part of some type of pageant many things are taken for granted, such as, gee, people are going to be gawking at me as I parade around. I may be quite naive but I don't think that being part of a pageant should mean that anyone gets to look in on you at any time regardless of whether you are clothed or not :p
 

Desdichado

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What did he do exactly? Walk me thru it as you know it.
There appears to be no reliable source. Salon, Huffpo, and Buzzfeed are saying he did. NY Daily News and Daily Mail UK say otherwise.

Not saying that is the sole determining factor of truth, but it is something to consider.
 
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I would argue that scantily clad women walk out in front of the cameras for ALL to see.
And prostitutes walk the streets to find men. Does that mean it's impossible to rape a prostitute?

A woman in a pageant can be wearing an elegant dress or a swim suit and it's her choice to go out to the public in that. For someone to go into her dressing room and see her naked is not in the same universe as her being willfully going out in whatever outfit she chooses.
 
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KimPetras

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There appears to be no reliable source. Salon, Huffpo, and Buzzfeed are saying he did. NY Daily News and Daily Mail UK say otherwise.

Not saying that is the sole determining factor of truth, but it is something to consider.
No source other than Trump himself is needed. He's confessed to "inspecting" young women undressing in their dressing rooms. He's laughed about how he was allowed to do it because he's the owner.
 
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No source other than Trump himself is needed. He's confessed to "inspecting" young women undressing in their dressing rooms. He's laughed about how he was allowed to do it because he's the owner.
Ive noticed you condemn trump for laughing about something that on the outside seems horrific but you defend Hillary for laughing about something equally if not more horrific.
 
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KimPetras

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If you want to distinguish a "dressing room" from a "locker room", why not distinguish a woman allowing people to see her in the outfit she picked out from a man walking in on her naked in a dressing room? I don't understand this logic.
 

Desdichado

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No source other than Trump himself is needed. He's confessed to "inspecting" young women undressing in their dressing rooms. He's laughed about how he was allowed to do it because he's the owner.
How do we know he said these things? Do we have a recording? I see nothing.

Link me if you found something reliable. I can't find anything and I've made an honest attempt.
 
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KimPetras

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Ive noticed you condemn trump for laughing about something that on the outside seems horrific but you defend Hillary for laughing about something equally if not more horrific.
We have different measurements of what is horrific.

Hillary laughing at her lack of faith in polygraphs because of her client passing is not any where NEAR the level of Trump knowingly walking in on young women naked.

But you're kind of using the point I made the other day when I reminded you that you thought some things are off limits to laugh about, even if it was the polygraph... yet, that level of condemnation is no where in your posts about Trump laughing about walking in on naked girls. It's a double-standard.
 
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We have different measurements of what is horrific.

Hillary laughing at her lack of faith in polygraphs because of her client passing is not any where NEAR the level of Trump knowingly walking in on young women naked.

But you're kind of using the point I made the other day when I reminded you that you thought some things are off limits to laugh about, even if it was the polygraph... yet, that level of condemnation is no where in your posts about Trump laughing about walking in on naked girls. It's a double-standard.
Haha. I got a rapist off on a technicality. So funny. Haha. That was awesome...gimme five.
 
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jennymae

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There appears to be no reliable source. Salon, Huffpo, and Buzzfeed are saying he did. NY Daily News and Daily Mail UK say otherwise.

Not saying that is the sole determining factor of truth, but it is something to consider.
Donald himself is the source...I can understand why you don't find that source reliable.
 

Desdichado

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Donald himself is the source...I can understand why you don't find that source reliable.
Actually, I don't. I think a lot of what he has said in the past is either idiotic high school posturing or calculated to suit audience expectations.

Part of my misgiving with him.
 
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KimPetras

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Haha. I got a rapist off on a technicality. So funny. Haha. That was awesome...gimme five.
Can you post the audio of that... No one, even most Trump supporters said she wasn't laughing at that...
 
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KimPetras

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How do we know he said these things? Do we have a recording? I see nothing.

Link me if you found something reliable. I can't find anything and I've made an honest attempt.
[video=youtube;l3GAwa-hZGo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3GAwa-hZGo[/video]
Trump: You can also say as the owner of the pageant it's your obligation to do that.
Stern: So, so you have done that?
Trump: Well I'll tell you the funniest is that I'll go backstage before a show...
Stern: Yes.
Trump: And everyone is getting dressed and everything else you know, no men are allowed anywhere and I'm allowed go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm "inspecting it".
Stern's assistant: Right, right!
Trump: I want to make sure everything is good. "Is everyone okay?" And you see these incredibly looking women and I sort of get away with things like that."
 

Desdichado

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Well dang. Never using Google as a search engine again.
 
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jennymae

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Donald is usually the source himself. I don't think he wants to win:p