John McCain withdraws support for Donald Trump

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KimPetras

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Actually, I don't. I think a lot of what he has said in the past is either idiotic high school posturing or calculated to suit audience expectations.

Part of my misgiving with him.
You have to admit though... even if it's true he was just posturing, he did this to himself and there is no excuse to defend his actions the way we see some Trump supporters do. He can't blame anyone for believing that it is 100% accurate when he is the source. They lose the right to get annoyed/frustrated with Trump when they perpetually try to shift and/or defend the indefensible, or when they use one standard for Hillary (she's so evil for laughing at her lack of faith in polygraph) but another for Trump (it's not so bad... boys will be boys).
 

Desdichado

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You have to admit though... even if it's true he was just posturing, he did this to himself and there is no excuse to defend his actions the way we see some Trump supporters do. He can't blame anyone for believing that it is 100% accurate when he is the source. They lose the right to get annoyed/frustrated with Trump when they perpetually try to shift and/or defend the indefensible, or when they use one standard for Hillary (she's so evil for laughing at her lack of faith in polygraph) but another for Trump (it's not so bad... boys will be boys).
I think I have a pretty consistent record on this site of claiming this is really bad politics. It is why was a bearer of the Cruz banner for months on this site.

In that particular case I would argue laughing about letting a child rapist off on a technicality and laughing about taking peeks at naked women are in different ballparks.

But again, politics rears its head. Hillary's misdeeds require more backstory explanation than Trump's. They therefore stick less.
 
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I think I have a pretty consistent record on this site of claiming this is really bad politics. It is why was a bearer of the Cruz banner for months on this site.

In that particular case I would argue laughing about letting a child rapist off on a technicality and laughing about taking peeks at naked women are in different ballparks.

But again, politics rears its head. Hillary's misdeeds require more backstory explanation than Trump's. They therefore stick less.
Yes, I've not seen you once defend the indefensible. :)

You set a great example for the Trump supporters that respect you. I hope you rub off on them!
 

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I have not heard or read Hillary's words on the matter. I just think that one needn't apply a double standard to find Hillary's laugh at evading justice more repugnant than Trump staring at naked girls.
 

Desdichado

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Yes, I've not seen you once defend the indefensible. :)

You set a great example for the Trump supporters that respect you. I hope you rub off on them!
Once again, I appreciate the compliments. I'm just being me. Glad to see I have not removed all doubt that I am, in fact, a fool :p
 
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I have not heard or read Hillary's words on the matter. I just think that one needn't apply a double standard to find Hillary's laugh at evading justice more repugnant than Trump staring at naked girls.
What we do know based on past experience is the efficient and ruthless smear machine that is the left wing in this country.
 

Desdichado

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What we do know based on past experience is the efficient and ruthless smear machine that is the left wing in this country.
The Democrat-Media complex should always be considered. At every turn.
 
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They did a study if only men voted Trump would win by a landslide. Seems many women are siding with Hillary regardless of her blatant corruption which is ridiculous.
 
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KimPetras

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I have not heard or read Hillary's words on the matter. I just think that one needn't apply a double standard to find Hillary's laugh at evading justice more repugnant than Trump staring at naked girls.
Well, truth be told, she was laughing at her lack of faith in polygraph tests, but yes, I totally agree! :p
 
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KimPetras

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What we do know based on past experience is the efficient and ruthless smear machine that is the left wing in this country.
I agree that the left smears Trump at every opportunity... but what you sometimes fail to realize is that Trump does most of his own smearing on himself... perfect example is the dressing room audio.

However, lets not be guilty of what we are accusing the left wing media of doing... using one standard for one person and another for Trump.
 
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I agree that the left smears Trump at every opportunity... but what you sometimes fail to realize is that Trump does most of his own smearing on himself... case in point, the dressing room audio.
He talks to much. He has been a very proud prideful man for much of his life. I don't think that makes him a pedo or rapist.
 
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I don't intentionally push buttons. I don't manipulate people.
 

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So what we have learned is: never go on the Howard Stern show.