Trump: Lies or Just Stupid?

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popeye

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peacenik said:
As the article indicates it is not always possible to determine who is who.

Lost in all this is the fact that while so many on the far right blame Obama for allowing refugees into the USA, all of these conflicts began when Republican Bush invaded the Middle East. Like it or not, the instability that we see there was brought on by the right wing hero.
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How stupid can you get.

He went in with full blessings of liberals and NATO.

Sadam had chemical weapons. That was a fact. In fact,bush used intelligence from the stupid Clinton administration for evidence.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
 
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CharlieGrown

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peacenik said:
So why do so many right wingers on this forum continue to blast Obama and Hillary while ignoring the FACT (not myth but FACT) that Bush, Reagan, and Republicans are the cause of all this mess?

How does voting for Trump solve it when he promises to do precisely the same as his Republican predecessors???
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Research the deficit.
 
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popeye

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The democratic party is so vile and nasty and crooked. Sodomites,transvestites,crooked thieves,enslaving blacks with trinkets for votes,bringing Godlessness to our country and school children.

How could there be something nastier or more vile?

But THOSE THAT PROMOTE THE PERVERSION have even a greater sin.

You cam vote and promote Clinton,but you will be judged for that promotion and advancement of those perverted practices.
 
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peacenik said:
As the article indicates it is not always possible to determine who is who.

Lost in all this is the fact that while so many on the far right blame Obama for allowing refugees into the USA, all of these conflicts began when Republican Bush invaded the Middle East. Like it or not, the instability that we see there was brought on by the right wing hero.
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peacenik said:
So why do so many right wingers on this forum continue to blast Obama and Hillary while ignoring the FACT (not myth but FACT) that Bush, Reagan, and Republicans are the cause of all this mess?

How does voting for Trump solve it when he promises to do precisely the same as his Republican predecessors???
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Do you have proof of that claim?

Just because it started around the time Bush invaded, does not mean he caused it. That is correlation, not causation. The same thing could have triggered both. Yes, your claim could be possible(more options too), but with the information you have given, it would be wrong to assume Bush caused it. So can we please have the evidence to back up your claim?
 
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popeye said:
The democratic party is so vile and nasty and crooked. Sodomites,transvestites,crooked thieves,enslaving blacks with trinkets for votes,bringing Godlessness to our country and school children.

How could there be something nastier or more vile?

But THOSE THAT PROMOTE THE PERVERSION have even a greater sin.

You cam vote and promote Clinton,but you will be judged for that promotion and advancement of those perverted practices.
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Its really quite interesting that pn throws in with this lot.
 
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CharlieGrown

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Sirk said:
Its really quite interesting that pn throws in with this lot.
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The left wingers are programmed to use the dark art of Shunning and Obsessive Debunking Disorder to create a false sense of doubt and isolation for those who clearly see truth. It is quite effective to anyone passionate about righteousness. All one needs to do to negate it's pseudo "power" is recognize it.
 
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kaylagrl

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CharlieGrown said:
The left wingers are programmed to use the dark art of Shunning and Obsessive Debunking Disorder to create a false sense of doubt and isolation for those who clearly see truth. It is quite effective to anyone passionate about righteousness. All one needs to do to negate it's pseudo "power" is recognize it.
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Trump is live from Gettysburg right now saying what he will do his first 100 days in office. There are 54,000 plus watching on Youtube. Wonder if Hillary could generate that many people?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Isn't it interesting that politics always causes generalizations?

"all left wingers are so" and "all right wingers are so"

I guess we are all good at judging people who disagree with us
 
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kaylagrl

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wwjd_kilden said:
Isn't it interesting that politics always causes generalizations?

"all left wingers are so" and "all right wingers are so"

I guess we are all good at judging people who disagree with us
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Just look at CC.lol
 
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CharlieGrown

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kaylagrl said:
Trump is live from Gettysburg right now saying what he will do his first 100 days in office. There are 54,000 plus watching on Youtube. Wonder if Hillary could generate that many people?
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Ha. She's still in her drug holiday stupor. We won't have 100 days under her.
 
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CharlieGrown

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wwjd_kilden said:
Isn't it interesting that politics always causes generalizations?

"all left wingers are so" and "all right wingers are so"

I guess we are all good at judging people who disagree with us
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You're right. I should've said those on the left who are over zealous. Not all left wingers participate in that type of behavior.
 
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Show me a man or woman who denies Jesus and God, performs miracles, and preaches false salvation then I will show you the Antichrist. Many will be lead astray from Jesus and his teachings. No Christian I know who supports Trump denies Jesus as King. People got to stop twisting Scripture to fit there evil intent to fill the world with lies.
 
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Zmouth said:
NAFTA would be considered a treaty, not a law. A law is a legislative act a Nation imposes upon it's own citizens whereas a treaty is an official policy established between Nations.

However, only the President in office, with the advice and consent of the U.S. Senate is delegated the duties regarding the making of treaties, yet the President does not have the power or authority to approve any treaty on behalf of the United States.

So 61-28 is about 5 votes short of a Constitutionally approved treaty.

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The problem is a treaty has the same effect as law, according to the constitution.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
Trump Is giving a speech to his base supporters now on fox.
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You like it. I saw the Gettysburg one earlier. I only got to see 15 minutes of it in the middle. It sounded good, just wish he been giving speeches like that the last 4 months.
 
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Tommy379 said:
You like it. I saw the Gettysburg one earlier. I only got to see 15 minutes of it in the middle. It sounded good, just wish he been giving speeches like that the last 4 months.
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It was alright,better than when he started.
 
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I'm curious to see If Donald will give a concession speech If he barely loses or even If he will give one If he loses by landslide.
 
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CharlieGrown

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seed_time_harvest said:
I'm curious to see If Donald will give a concession speech If he barely loses or even If he will give one If he loses by landslide.
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I can't remember did Gore? I think Donald would, let's just pray it doesn't come to that right seed? :cool:
 
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CharlieGrown said:
I can't remember did Gore? I think Donald would, let's just pray it doesn't come to that right seed? :cool:
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Yes Gore did make a speech. It was very short one it may have been one of the shortest .
I am sure it's on YouTube somewhere. I heard it on the radio just the other day . It was when
the talk about Trump's statement on accepting the election results was fresh .
Blessings
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tourist said:
8 years into Obama's presidency and still blaming Bush. When exactly will Obama be responsible for his own presidency? I'm sure that when Hillary is elected she will shirk responsibility also and just simply blame Bush.
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What did Obama do to cause the present instability?
I'll gladly do so if you can prove to me he is responsible.
 
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