Trump: Lies or Just Stupid?

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So far, all I have seen is rumors. Just like the rumors that Obama was a communist who was going to end the capitalist system, take away your guns, suspend the Constitution, and overrun this country with Muslims. Not one of those rumors ever panned out despite the repeated assertions by the right wing that they would.

It is time for the right wing to end their lies and to present actual evidence of their claims.


Thou shalt not bear false witness.
Looks like an army to me. How Many Muslim Immigrants Has Obama Admitted? Here's What Congress Just Learned. | Daily Wire
 

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Just like the rumors you were trying to say about trump being the Antichrist?

Double standard comes to mind for some strange reason...



But I used a CONSERVATIVE source which you folks are so readily disposed to believe.
 
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But I used a CONSERVATIVE source which you folks are so readily disposed to believe.
Then again....didn't you call CNN a conservative source? I'm pretty sure I have little faith in what you consider "conservative"
 

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Then again....didn't you call CNN a conservative source? I'm pretty sure I have little faith in what you consider "conservative"

I did not use CNN in that link.
Moreover, right wingers on this forum say Reagan and Bush are not conservatives. ;)
 
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Type of those deported vs. quantity. Could they have been Christians?


As the article indicates it is not always possible to determine who is who.

Lost in all this is the fact that while so many on the far right blame Obama for allowing refugees into the USA, all of these conflicts began when Republican Bush invaded the Middle East. Like it or not, the instability that we see there was brought on by the right wing hero.
 
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Muslims lie remember.....hey Akbar...you a Christian? Yup.......check! Lol
Not just Muslims, my grandparents are Mormon and they refer to themselves as christian but the thing is they actually believe they are....I wonder if the same could be said for Muslims, worth a shot
 
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As the article indicates it is not always possible to determine who is who.

Lost in all this is the fact that while so many on the far right blame Obama for allowing refugees into the USA, all of these conflicts began when Republican Bush invaded the Middle East. Like it or not, the instability that we see there was brought on by the right wing hero.
the bushes and obama are on the same team. surprised you haven't figured that out yet.
 
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the bushes and obama are on the same team. surprised you haven't figured that out yet.
I love those group pictures in the oval office with them all chummy, even Carter. Wonder how Trump will fit in on those photos, not well I hope.
 

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the bushes and obama are on the same team. surprised you haven't figured that out yet.



So why do so many right wingers on this forum continue to blast Obama and Hillary while ignoring the FACT (not myth but FACT) that Bush, Reagan, and Republicans are the cause of all this mess?

How does voting for Trump solve it when he promises to do precisely the same as his Republican predecessors???
 

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I did not use CNN in that link.
Moreover, right wingers on this forum say Reagan and Bush are not conservatives. ;)
That's the problem with some on the right in the Republican Party. They love them circular firings squads.
They shoot each other not giving a inch on principles. They will continue to shoot leaving no survivors. While the left is happy with a crumb here and there. After all is said and done all the crumbs make a whole loaf of bread for the left and the republicans are left with nothing but their principles without anything to show for it .
Blessings
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So why do so many right wingers on this forum continue to blast Obama and Hillary while ignoring the FACT (not myth but FACT) that Bush, Reagan, and Republicans are the cause of all this mess?

How does voting for Trump solve it when he promises to do precisely the same as his Republican predecessors???
8 years into Obama's presidency and still blaming Bush. When exactly will Obama be responsible for his own presidency? I'm sure that when Hillary is elected she will shirk responsibility also and just simply blame Bush.
 
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So why do so many right wingers on this forum continue to blast Obama and Hillary while ignoring the FACT (not myth but FACT) that Bush, Reagan, and Republicans are the cause of all this mess?

How does voting for Trump solve it when he promises to do precisely the same as his Republican predecessors???

When Bush 2 was running the media beat him up pretty good to keep up appearances. But in the end he was still an establishment guy and they handled him with kid gloves compared to what they are doing to Trump. If they didn't want him in they would have done what they are doing to Trump. I'll bet little Bush jr was quite the little ivy league tail chaser back in his drinking days.
 

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Whether he purposely lied, or is just ignorant or even stupid, the fact is, Trump is not presidential material. People complain about Hilllary's lies, rightly so, but Trump's lies make Hillary look like an honest Saint!

"Of all of Donald Trump’s lies, and they are getting more difficult to keep up with, there is one that he continues parroting with impunity with hardly any challenges. Trump, like tens-of-millions of Americans and tens-of-thousands of businesses, has benefitted greatly from the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and yet he pledges to abolish it. As a perceived weapon against Hillary Clinton, Trump continues swearing that NAFTA was conceived, pushed, negotiated, and signed by then-president Bill Clinton; that is simply not true and any American with rudimentary calendar skills knows it’s a lie; including Donald Trump.

The origin of NAFTA dates back to 1990 as a trade pact among the three nations. Three leaders, American President George H. W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and Mexican President Carlos Salinas were each responsible for spearheading and promoting the agreement in their home countries and each participated in ceremonial signing in their respective capitals on December 17, 1992. Bill Clinton was sworn in as the 42nd President thirty-four days after George H.W. Bush signed the NAFTA trade pact.
The day after George H.W. Bush, not then-Governor of Arkansas Bill Clinton, ceremoniously signed the NAFTA trade agreement, president-elect Clinton reiterated his campaign assertion that there would have to be new job and environmental protections, and safeguards against sudden trade surges, but they could be settled without renegotiating the entire treaty with Mexico and Canada before he submitted implementing legislation. In a statement, still Arkansas Governor Clinton said, “I will pursue those other things that I think need to be done in the public interest, then I will prepare implementing legislation and try to pass it in Congress.” Those job protections, like job protections today, never materialized in Congress because Republicans."

Trump Is Wrong, NAFTA Was Not Bill Clinton’s Creation

I don't like Hillary much at all. I don't like many Democrat policies. But Americans need to wake up and see Trump for what he is - a classless liar, who is only in this election to make the tax laws better for himself. Can you say narcissistic?
NAFTA would be considered a treaty, not a law. A law is a legislative act a Nation imposes upon it's own citizens whereas a treaty is an official policy established between Nations.

However, only the President in office, with the advice and consent of the U.S. Senate is delegated the duties regarding the making of treaties, yet the President does not have the power or authority to approve any treaty on behalf of the United States.

So 61-28 is about 5 votes short of a Constitutionally approved treaty.

 
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That lie has been debunked numerous times on this forum:


Mike Pence Runs With Conservative Media Lie About Clinton Foundation’s Charitable Spending



PolitiFact and FactCheck both confirmed the actual truth.

Remember, ​thou shalt not bear false witness ...
You libs are so deviant and evil. Supporting that crook.

Stop telling others to cease what your party does as champions.

LIE THROUGH YOUR TEETH.

PURE PROPAGANDA AND LIES. YOU PROMOTE IT AND DEFEND THE BIGGEST CROOK EVER TO SEEK THE WHITE HOUSE.

YOU ARE A LIAR.
 
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So why do so many right wingers on this forum continue to blast Obama and Hillary while ignoring the FACT (not myth but FACT) that Bush, Reagan, and Republicans are the cause of all this mess?

How does voting for Trump solve it when he promises to do precisely the same as his Republican predecessors???
More lies from you.

Try and make a sentence without lying.

IT WAS RANGEL THAT CAUSED THE HOUSING/MORTGAGE CRASH.
BUSH EVEN TOLD THOSE FREAKS THEY WERE DESTROYING THE MARKET.

MORE STUPID IDIOT LIBERAL DESTRUCTION.

YOUR PARTY AND FREAKS YOU ELECT FOR YOUR STUPID FREE BEES IS DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY.

THATS ALL YOU AND THOSE FOOLS DO,promote destructive policies.

Murder babies,and put transvestites in office.

You and your party are sick freaks.

A poison and vile destruction to our nation.

What are you doing on a Christian site promoting and protecting demonic sick entities bent on moral decay and filth?

Sodomites have infested our government. You protect and promote a sickness.
 
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Google "Clinton foundation percentage charity"

Site after site shows the sloppy deviant couple steal the money,while very little goes to charity.

They are as crooked as rattlesnakes.

Pure crooks and villains.

Baby murderers,
 
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