Puppy Patience (sigh)

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shrimp

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Well, I got 2 puppies about 3 months ago and when they see their older sister (different litter different owners) outside with her friend and I say no you can't go out to play, they look my in the eyes, squat, and pee on my floor and if that doesn't work they evacuate their bowels.
The thing is, if I let them out they'll be all over town but if I don't they get vengeful.
 
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kaylagrl

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Thanks for all the advice everybody! Ive had dogs all my life but I haven't had a big dog in a few years. My little one in my avatar was easy to train because she was just a tiny pup. The Shepard is already about 40 pounds, and thats only eating puppy chow.lol So she's just a little harder to train and make obey. She's going to be pretty when she grows up. Its like they say, God make em cute so you wouldn't kill them. lol lol
 
Demi777

Demi777

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we had a german shepard and husky mutt. I trained him and my dad and bother spoiled him. take treats.. thats what I did.. bags of treats and strict voicee and ull be finee :p
 
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kaylagrl

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So I put up a gate on my deck at the top of the stairs. Then I put two chairs in front of it to make sure she couldn't knock it down. The other day my husband said "take a look" and she was standing at the door. The gate was still in place and the chairs werent moved. So I took a video of her yesterday to see what she was doing. She scaled the fence from the top step,used the chair arm for balance and pulled herself up into the chair and jumped down the other side. I think this mutt is too smart and I need to find a way to engage her. She could care less for toys and gets bored so fast. Ive been annoyed with her because its hard to find something to entertain her. Now Im starting to think she's smarter than what I think.
 
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sassylady

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Some dogs need work, like put a pack on her made for dogs, put something in it with a little weight, and take her out to walk or jog every day to work off some of that frustration. German Shepherds are working dogs and need something to do. If you have a dog crate, it does not hurt to crate her for an hour or so at a time as a discipline. They can learn patience during that time. Be sure to keep her leash up right behind her ears, and you be the leader. I would recommend seeing if you can find videos by Cesar Milan on youtube, or order them online. You have to show her you are the pack leader.

I work for a dog registry and there are several trainers here as well as people that show. As I said, the biggest thing for her would be work. And that can also involve retrieving, or jumping small jumps you set up in the yard, like the agility courses they have in dog shows. It can give the two of you a chance to work together and form a bond so she will pay more attention to you.
 
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Faithful_Fay

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I have an 80 lb Weimaraner so I understand the difficulties of dealing with the bigger, hyper, and intelligent combo. My main trick was to exhaust my pup then work on training. I'm not sure what you prefer but it was a long run in the morning and dog park in the evenings for him. He usually slept the day away at home. I learned quickly that all that extra energy made for a mischievous pup.

Those first few weeks when we brought him home and he couldn't go for the long walks were exhausting. I couldn't take my eye off of him for a second before he was getting into things. He's 8 now and starting to slow down. I hope you're enjoying your pup!
 
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NewWine

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In my experience with training dogs ( I train search and rescue k9's) the biggest thing when training a dog is consistency. Dogs want to please us. Shepherds are HIGHLY trainable, and can learn to do almost anything, but they are also HIGHLY Intelligent, which means often times they will decide whether or not to obey. Keep your punishments consistent and loving, and keep your praise high and consistent. If he gets on the counter and you tell him "Off" and he actually gets off, that's improvement and needs to be praised. If you tell him "off" and nothing happens then it's time to punish lovingly. Just keep working with him and he'll get it.

One more tip...if he's left alone in the house, play a radio or tv while away. This makes the dog think you might be back at any time, and gives him a familiar sound while you're away. It helps pacify a puppy who's new to a doghouse or crate also.

Try to remember, a puppy is like an infant. They are curious, playful and even rebellious at times, but if you train them and let them live past age 2, they usually settle down and become cherished members of the family.
 
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NewWine

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kaylagrl said:
So I put up a gate on my deck at the top of the stairs. Then I put two chairs in front of it to make sure she couldn't knock it down. The other day my husband said "take a look" and she was standing at the door. The gate was still in place and the chairs werent moved. So I took a video of her yesterday to see what she was doing. She scaled the fence from the top step,used the chair arm for balance and pulled herself up into the chair and jumped down the other side. I think this mutt is too smart and I need to find a way to engage her. She could care less for toys and gets bored so fast. Ive been annoyed with her because its hard to find something to entertain her. Now Im starting to think she's smarter than what I think.
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I have a borador currently. This dog can outrun a car doing over 35mph, can jump from a sitting position to where his hind paws are above the top of a doorway entrance, can climb fences and walls that are over 8ft tall, and
has somehow learned how to unclasp his lead to get loose. He never leaves the yard, thankfully, but wow, what do you do with this other than love him and take him everywhere with me? lol Thankfully he obeys my voice and isn't horrible when loose or I might be in trouble. I did have one neighbor tell me he kept trying to "herd" him back into his car one night as a pup though....this dog has been a real challenge to train but a real asset to search and rescue work.
 
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kaylagrl

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sassylady said:
Some dogs need work, like put a pack on her made for dogs, put something in it with a little weight, and take her out to walk or jog every day to work off some of that frustration. German Shepherds are working dogs and need something to do. If you have a dog crate, it does not hurt to crate her for an hour or so at a time as a discipline. They can learn patience during that time. Be sure to keep her leash up right behind her ears, and you be the leader. I would recommend seeing if you can find videos by Cesar Milan on youtube, or order them online. You have to show her you are the pack leader.

I work for a dog registry and there are several trainers here as well as people that show. As I said, the biggest thing for her would be work. And that can also involve retrieving, or jumping small jumps you set up in the yard, like the agility courses they have in dog shows. It can give the two of you a chance to work together and form a bond so she will pay more attention to you.
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I do have a crate,I just bought a new one and its huge. She has room to walk around in it. She goes in once a day for an hour or so. The idea of the pack is great, she just has a lot of energy that a regular walk doesn't do it for her. She loves to chase my little white dog but she grabbed her tail the other day and,small as she is,she tore into her and had her cornered.I had to pull her off. Little mutts can be ferocious!

I think you're right I need to set up a course in my backyard.I have plenty of room and I think it will help her get out her energy and think at the same time.
 
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kaylagrl

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Faithful_Fay said:
I have an 80 lb Weimaraner so I understand the difficulties of dealing with the bigger, hyper, and intelligent combo. My main trick was to exhaust my pup then work on training. I'm not sure what you prefer but it was a long run in the morning and dog park in the evenings for him. He usually slept the day away at home. I learned quickly that all that extra energy made for a mischievous pup.

Those first few weeks when we brought him home and he couldn't go for the long walks were exhausting. I couldn't take my eye off of him for a second before he was getting into things. He's 8 now and starting to slow down. I hope you're enjoying your pup!
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She does tire quickly if she's out and at a park or experiencing new smells and people. She's good when she's out its when she gets home that she gets into trouble. The main things Im trying to break are jumping on the counter and the door to get back inside. She still jumps up on people so Im trying to work on that too. Its hard because she looks grown but she's only 5months. I have to remind myself that she's a puppy still.
 
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kaylagrl

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NewWine said:
In my experience with training dogs ( I train search and rescue k9's) the biggest thing when training a dog is consistency. Dogs want to please us. Shepherds are HIGHLY trainable, and can learn to do almost anything, but they are also HIGHLY Intelligent, which means often times they will decide whether or not to obey. Keep your punishments consistent and loving, and keep your praise high and consistent. If he gets on the counter and you tell him "Off" and he actually gets off, that's improvement and needs to be praised. If you tell him "off" and nothing happens then it's time to punish lovingly. Just keep working with him and he'll get it.

One more tip...if he's left alone in the house, play a radio or tv while away. This makes the dog think you might be back at any time, and gives him a familiar sound while you're away. It helps pacify a puppy who's new to a doghouse or crate also.

Try to remember, a puppy is like an infant. They are curious, playful and even rebellious at times, but if you train them and let them live past age 2, they usually settle down and become cherished members of the family.
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Ive thought of giving her to the next person thats says how beautiful she is. lol The counter surfing is annoying but when I make supper I put her in her crate. Its best for both our safety. I know Shepards are smart, I had one years ago and you're right on that count. But I think she's playing me a bit.lol She acts quite heedless but she can scale a fence in a matter of seconds if she wants her own way. I got the breeders name from my vet but I was afraid perhaps she wasn't well bred and not too bright. Then when I saw her scale the fence I said to myself "no you're the one that is not to bright,she knows more than she's letting on".lol
 
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kaylagrl

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NewWine said:
I have a borador currently. This dog can outrun a car doing over 35mph, can jump from a sitting position to where his hind paws are above the top of a doorway entrance, can climb fences and walls that are over 8ft tall, and
has somehow learned how to unclasp his lead to get loose. He never leaves the yard, thankfully, but wow, what do you do with this other than love him and take him everywhere with me? lol Thankfully he obeys my voice and isn't horrible when loose or I might be in trouble. I did have one neighbor tell me he kept trying to "herd" him back into his car one night as a pup though....this dog has been a real challenge to train but a real asset to search and rescue work.
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That reminds me of when I was training my Eskie,the one pictured in my avatar. My husband is a softy on animals. So she was learning to come when called. We were in a big park one day,it was close to a forrest and he said I should let her off her lead. I said that she wasn't totally trained to come when called. He kept it up and said she needed a good run and he could catch her if she went too far. Finally I agreed and let her off her lead. As soon as I let her off, a deer ran out the forrest! Like a rocket she was on the deers tail! I was sure she was gone for good,there was no catching her. My husband just stood there,stunned.lol I took off after her and I have a loud voice when I need to and called her name and told her to stop,now!! Luckily she listened and I got her attention long enough to get her back to me. Hubby never questions my training now. lol
 
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oldethennew

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we have an extra-ordinary cat, 'hard-headed' as he has a lot of Simiese in him and can be a
'bull-head', but I got his number the day that his former owner 'dropped' him off, as he was
very strong willed and had apparently been coddled...
body language is everything, and we had to immediately establish our dominance over him,
whether by cuffing or straight leg connection - he immediately began to respond to this and although he
does occasionally 'challenge' us, he has become the best animal gift that Jesus has ever given
to us...he does things that would blow your mind, but he has just become a very welcomed
addition to our lives, because we know that our Heavenly Father sent him to us for very good
reason...
 
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kaylagrl

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oldethennew said:
we have an extra-ordinary cat, 'hard-headed' as he has a lot of Simiese in him and can be a
'bull-head', but I got his number the day that his former owner 'dropped' him off, as he was
very strong willed and had apparently been coddled...
body language is everything, and we had to immediately establish our dominance over him,
whether by cuffing or straight leg connection - he immediately began to respond to this and although he
does occasionally 'challenge' us, he has become the best animal gift that Jesus has ever given
to us...he does things that would blow your mind, but he has just become a very welcomed
addition to our lives, because we know that our Heavenly Father sent him to us for very good
reason...
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You're right! And perhaps its me that needs to do the learning as much as she does.
 
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