What about shorty, quickly and at hand? Are those literal or symbolic? If they're literal then 1000 years cannot be.
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What about shorty, quickly and at hand? Are those literal or symbolic? If they're literal then 1000 years cannot be.
The "1000" depends on if that is an exact number or a symbol of completeness. The OT uses "thousand" often when it's obvious to the reader is not a literal 1000. Deut 7:9, 1 Chron 16:15, psalm 50:10 and so on. In deut 7:9 if 1000 generations was the literal number that would mean the last days are over 30,000 years away.
Regarding the thousand years, there is nothing in the context that would lead the reader to interpret it as anything other than a literal thousand years..
So at the beginning of the book when it says it will happen soon that isn't literal but thousands of years later?Regarding the thousand years, there is nothing in the context that would lead the reader to interpret it as anything other than a literal thousand years. The fact that the thousand years is repeated consistently six times would support a literal thousand years. The thousand years is the same time that Jesus will be ruling and the same time in which Satan will be bound.
It would be in error to apply the same meaning of the thousand years to Revelation as having the same meaning as say, Psalm 50:10, as the context should always be taken into consideration first.
post your favorite unfulfilled prophecies, and let's look at them.
Okay:
[FONT="]"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]3 [/B][/FONT]And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]5 [/B][/FONT]And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely."
(Revelation 21:1-6...and on actually)[/FONT]
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eternity passages.
not fulfilled.
What about shorty, quickly and at hand? Are those literal or symbolic? If they're literal then 1000 years cannot be.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/144390-released-after-1000-days-troll-again-lol.html
wow. Real classy there. And members poking fun at others. Great Christian attitude.
So that's why it was shut down. Well, you'll be getting a report message from me. Sorry. Didn't know that was the cause.My apologies for having to gut a bunch of this thread since the discussion of a user's prior ban got interwoven through a lot of posts.
This site's policy has always been that disciplinary action by this site has (and most likely always will be) be between CC's staff and the individual user. The fact that a certain user was at one time banned for a time frame that expired years ago is most definitely the business of that user and this site's Administration ONLY.
[h=1]Revelation 6King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]6 [/B][/FONT]And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]3 [/B][/FONT]And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]5 [/B][/FONT]And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]7 [/B][/FONT]And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]9 [/B][/FONT]And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]11 [/B][/FONT]And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]13 [/B][/FONT]And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]15 [/B][/FONT]And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:[/FONT]
[FONT="]17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Zone what say you?[/FONT]
My apologies for having to gut a bunch of this thread since the discussion of a user's prior ban got interwoven through a lot of posts.
This site's policy has always been that disciplinary action by this site has (and most likely always will be) be between CC's staff and the individual user. The fact that a certain user was at one time banned for a time frame that expired years ago is most definitely the business of that user and this site's Administration ONLY.
My apologies for having to gut a bunch of this thread since the discussion of a user's prior ban got interwoven through a lot of posts.
This site's policy has always been that disciplinary action by this site has (and most likely always will be) be between CC's staff and the individual user. The fact that a certain user was at one time banned for a time frame that expired years ago is most definitely the business of that user and this site's Administration ONLY.
[h=1]Revelation 7King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]7 [/B][/FONT]And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]3 [/B][/FONT]Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]5 [/B][/FONT]Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]7 [/B][/FONT]Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]9 [/B][/FONT]After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]11 [/B][/FONT]And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]13 [/B][/FONT]And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]15 [/B][/FONT]Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.[/FONT]
[FONT="]17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
and this one zone?[/FONT]
] Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
and how about this one zone?[/FONT][/COLOR]