Scientifically Proving the Existence of God

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CharlieGrown

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Next book on my list...

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ask the bible. why ask a video . etc that can not answer back etc
 
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Every Christian knows that the sWORD in Scripture represents WORDS.

Hebrews 4:12
"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart"


Yet this particular sWORD can pierce Soul and Spirit... literally dividing them into Two Pieces.

The sWORD even has Two Edges.

It can discern what the Heart will do.

What kind of sWORD has Two Edges, divides Soul and Spirit and can discern what the Heart will do?

 
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Ahem!

Ezekiel 37:16-17
"Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions"

"And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand"








Come on Christians.

Wake up!

The IMAGE is COMING...

[video=youtube;yM25-lz1Yms]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM25-lz1Yms[/video]
 

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royalscot tip toes back in to the room and to this topic . i have been told by my boss. to tell the education systems (all)

ie science , book reader, and e= mc 2 (can not do a wee 2 ,on my computer, i am to thick lol)

every time you read something from a past history , you travel back in time.

god bless all

i am not to put lol in this post. i have to be humble.

we're all travelling through time, right now.

into the future, forward. at a rate of 1 hour per hour.

1 [SUP]hour[/SUP]/[SUB]hour[/SUB]
 
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BeyondET

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p.s the moon governs the k/night .
Interesting quote, for the last couple of days the Moon and Sun have been together in the daytime governing at the same time I wonder how this can be.
 
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Interesting quote, for the last couple of days the Moon and Sun have been together in the daytime governing at the same time I wonder how this can be.
it depends on ware you put your sun dial. lol at one point they thought the world was square.

the equinox and the flight path of the earth , combined, you would get mixed readings. could this lead to the logic of the flight path of the earth is not round. etc
 
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Interesting and not that it proves God exists, as if we could know Christ after the rudiments and molecules of this world. It is not a part of the gospel . But how he uses the word twelve throughout scripture to represent his sealed unseen authority on the breastplate as a seal , as a number no man could learn (God forbids numbering His people, the reason no man can learn) . Natural man who walks by sight will try and fulfill that number as a sign unto themselves, as many false doctrines coming that way. Like the Jehovah Witnesses. Therefore making those parables using twelve to represent the seal of the authority of God as to whatever is in view to no effect. So they can use it according to their own flesh rather than walking by the faith that alone comes from hearing God through the scriptures.

Twelve represents the chaste virgin bride of Christ we can see her as the mother of us all in the

Just in Revelation alone when can see how that number that no man can learn is used.

Revelation 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.

Revelation 7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.

Revelation 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.

Revelation 7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Revelation 21:12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

Revelation 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Revelation 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

Revelation 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

Revelation 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
 
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Ahem!

Ezekiel 37:16-17
"Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions"

"And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand"








Come on Christians.

Wake up!

The IMAGE is COMING...

[video=youtube;yM25-lz1Yms]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM25-lz1Yms[/video]
13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.Hebrews 8

combining , (holy spirit and man. )

Hebrews 9
15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.Hebrews 9

in other words, we are now, all under gods good hummer. and under his hand that protects us.

29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.30 I and the Father are one."John 10: I Am the Good Shepherd
 
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Every Christian knows that the sWORD in Scripture represents WORDS.

Hebrews 4:12
"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart"


Yet this particular sWORD can pierce Soul and Spirit... literally dividing them into Two Pieces.

The sWORD even has Two Edges.

It can discern what the Heart will do.

What kind of sWORD has Two Edges, divides Soul and Spirit and can discern what the Heart will do?

the kind that has double meaning.
for example.
if i say to some one i believe in god, and they do not believe in god.

what are the consequences
etc so both are held by the though, if they give thought to the question is there a god.etc
 

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Interesting quote, for the last couple of days the Moon and Sun have been together in the daytime governing at the same time I wonder how this can be.
The Moon is out in the day just as much as it's out at night, actually. But most people don't look at the sky.. Busy these days with their electronic rectangles.

There's no problem with the geometry of the heliocentric solar system and the round earth with the Moon visible in daylight. And sol being much brighter, still governs the day.
 
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BeyondET

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The Moon is out in the day just as much as it's out at night, actually. But most people don't look at the sky.. Busy these days with their electronic rectangles.

There's no problem with the geometry of the heliocentric solar system and the round earth with the Moon visible in daylight. And sol being much brighter, still governs the day.
Indeed something tells me to look in another place for that lesser light... :)
 
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the old testament is clear god made the earth. the problem is mankind were given free will, yet don t have a full understanding to what the see etc

now science has rom 1 v 20 rom was wrote around (57ad) and rev was around 80-120 ad
the bible as we know was not introduced to the world till around 1500. ad


From 10 to 12 months

The Gregorian calendar and its predecessor, the Julian calendarboth consist of 12 months. The even earlier Roman calendar also had 12 months, however, only 10 of the months had names.
The Julian calendar was introduced by Julius Caesar in 45 BCE and replaced the Roman calendar.

Roman emperor Julius Caesar.
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See the Julian calendar
Replaced Lunar Calendar

The Julian calendar's predecessor, the Roman calendar, was a very complicated lunar calendar, based on the moon phases. It required a group of people to decide when days should be added or removed in order to keep the calendar in sync with the astronomical seasons, marked by equinoxes and solstices.




The History of Israel - A Chronological Presentation - 1. Early Times


37 (BCE) - Herod The Great
Following a failed Jewish rebellion, the Romans turned Judea into a regular Roman province, and installed the Jewish King Herod the Great as administrator. After his death in 4 BCE the province was divided between Herod's sons. One of them, Herod Antipas, who is best known for his role in the New Testament, administered Galilee in the north and Perea to the east (the east bank of the Jordan River, today part of the Kingdom of Jordan).

70 - The Destruction of Jerusalem
The Roman Emperor Titus quashed yet another Jewish rebellion. The Jewish temple and the rest of Jerusalem were reduced to rubble. A group of especially persistent Jews sought refuge on the mountain of Masada in the desert near the Dead Sea, but were three years later defeated by the Romans.



around the time of jesus there was a lot happening. what is on paul mind when writing this.

God's Wrath on Unrighteousness
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them

the point in history would only prove the science at this time, was a change to the calendar.


but planets
When the planets were discovered?


Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn can all be seen with the naked eye, so it's impossible to say who was the first human to discover them, and when that was! Uranus was discovered by William Hershel on March 13, 1781.

it order to find a lesser light you must look at what can be proven around the time the bible writer, wrote there books , and what was the custom at that point in history.



 
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this is only the world ,and the heavens. and space and planets.

yet each part has a date. they point who is tracking time.

Isaiah 66
1 Thus says the LORD: "Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool; what is the house that you would build for me, and what is the place of my rest?

given when this was wrote. and when the bible was revealed. and using the logic of 2016. one word defines the wisdom of god.(awesome)
give the vastness of space. would lead to your guess is as good as mine. to what house we could build god. lol

21 The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.'

when man conquered space , all it got was a view from space to the earth. etc

Astronaut Alan Shepard, Jr., America s first man in space, poses in the Mercury space craft in 1961. Fifty three years ago on May 5, 1961, NASA astronaut Alan Shepard blasted off in a Freedom 7 capsule atop a Mercury-Redstone rocket to become the first American in space.
and again dated. etc

the point, god has reveal bit by bit, to each generation to generation not only to, the past, the now ,and the future. etc
and this is just the science that combines ,the logic behind the world and universe. the gist is the same, god made it. but we know the writers were at different points in history.


10 and crying out with a loud voice, "Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!"Revelation 7
 
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we're all travelling through time, right now.

into the future, forward. at a rate of 1 hour per hour.

1 [SUP]hour[/SUP]/[SUB]hour[/SUB]
and spinning under our feet at 1000 mph(around) . now that s what i call speed. (the earth spins around this speed as it as it follows it yearly circle) the earth is spinning at this speed rite now. etc
 
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This whole thread seems very unconvincing to me. It's a long string of loose associations and seeing order in randomness that tries to force some sort of relationship between the bible and modern science. I don't see the bible as the kind of text where you have modern physics hidden inside of it. I'm fine with it just being a religious text and think reading it any other way further separates you from the intended meaning.
 
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...reading it any other way further separates you from the intended meaning.
Ezekiel 1:4
"And I looked, and, behold, a
whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire"
Ezekiel 1:27
"And I saw as the
colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about"

Ezekiel 8:2
"Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the
colour of amber"

Did you know the word Electron comes from the word Amber?

The ancient Greeks noticed that amber attracted small objects when rubbed with fur.

Along with lightning, this phenomenon is one of humanity's earliest recorded experiences with electricity.

In his 1600 treatise De Magnete, the English scientist William Gilbert coined the New Latin term electricus, to refer to this property of attracting small objects after being rubbed.

Both electric and electricity are derived from the Latin ēlectrum (also the root of the alloy of the same name), which came from theGreek word for amber, (ēlektron).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron

Ever seen a Whirlwind of Electrons?



Rubbing Amber (Electrons) on Wool...


 

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energy is the capacity to do work.
work is the application of a force which causes a displacement.
power is a measure of work done per unit time.

electricity is not '
energy' -- and electrons are not 'power'
electrons are charged masses. electricity is the flow of charge.

power requires work accomplished over time.
energy is the potential and the accomplishment of work.
work requires a force, ((which accelerates a mass)) and a distance.
acceleration is a change in either speed or direction.


for more on '
work' please consider this thread:
((
work))
 
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This whole thread seems very unconvincing to me. It's a long string of loose associations and seeing order in randomness that tries to force some sort of relationship between the bible and modern science. I don't see the bible as the kind of text where you have modern physics hidden inside of it. I'm fine with it just being a religious text and think reading it any other way further separates you from the intended meaning.
why did you post this if its unconvincing to you. do you know, what a vision or a dream is.
read all the facts before posting.

for example.

11 saying, "Write what you see in a book and send it to the seven churches, to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea."Revelation 1

it dos not say write what i tell you to write.
by telling you this post ,am i adding insult to your own blindness. or trying to open your eyes to what prophetic or parable writing is. etc