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yeah i do sister, i am in school for biblical studies, one of the greatest problems of the modern church is to relate our God to this world, i am examining what i have seen you say...
im sure glad God never gave up on me and said the things you have, theres your speck, btw i took my log out years ago, i know how low i am...
YAY shes banned. No more false scripture interpretations and lies from that woman 
The problem with this conversation is that this member did not come here to find the Lord, but to tell you that you only believe sin is wrong cuz its in your book, and that it doesnt hurt anyone and therefore is okay and that you are wrong for believing its wrong. She wasnt here to find the Lord.
Do you really believe that being kind to her while she preaches these things to other Christians reading her message will melt her heart and cause her to come to the Lord? I dont. Im pretty sure shes made her decision and is merely here to guide others to what she has devoted herself to.
Do you really believe that being kind to her while she preaches these things to other Christians reading her message will melt her heart and cause her to come to the Lord? I dont. Im pretty sure shes made her decision and is merely here to guide others to what she has devoted herself to.
i just saw how young you are sweet child, that gives me some understanding. the world works in ways you have yet to realize. ill tell you this i walked in its ways for many years, and many Christians with good intentions tried to help me but spoke of judgment and my sins, i would laugh tell them i know God and i was just one of the people meant for hell. the only ones that ever shook me up were the ones that spoke of Gods love alone.... i know because i was one child.
It has nothing to do with my age. Which once again, if you knew me better, youd understand why I do and say things the way I do.
People who dont want to be saved will not change their mind without a encounter with God himself. She blocked from the beginning. Even when I was quoting on ''Hate the sin, not the sinner'' she was out to attack, not to understand.
Her intentions were not to learn and to get help, like many other here do. All we can do now is let God take care of her and she will maybe sooner or later make the choice to God.
After seeing some things ive seen, I dont doubt Gods capability. But I doubt people who say ''I can save'' because the only one that I know who can save, is Jesus. Maybe you see that differently.
I cannot sugarcoat the truth for long. Im not a evangelist.
I usually deal with Muslims, which is confrontational. Maybe that was just the wrong thing in this case, but thats the situations I get thrown into. And she was quite that way too. Maybe I should have let God guide me better, but still I stand up for what i said and say.
I will just warmly encourage you to read my Testimony some day before you may come to the conclusion that I am a young fool or something.
People who dont want to be saved will not change their mind without a encounter with God himself. She blocked from the beginning. Even when I was quoting on ''Hate the sin, not the sinner'' she was out to attack, not to understand.
Her intentions were not to learn and to get help, like many other here do. All we can do now is let God take care of her and she will maybe sooner or later make the choice to God.
After seeing some things ive seen, I dont doubt Gods capability. But I doubt people who say ''I can save'' because the only one that I know who can save, is Jesus. Maybe you see that differently.
I cannot sugarcoat the truth for long. Im not a evangelist.
I usually deal with Muslims, which is confrontational. Maybe that was just the wrong thing in this case, but thats the situations I get thrown into. And she was quite that way too. Maybe I should have let God guide me better, but still I stand up for what i said and say.
I will just warmly encourage you to read my Testimony some day before you may come to the conclusion that I am a young fool or something.
Wanderer, Demi is one of the most bible-smart people on this site. She simply sees in Maydanna, what most of the rest of us see: a former devoted christian, who is now rebellious and doesn't believe in God's word anymore. By May's own words, she said she only came here to make her friend think that she would change her mind about being a lesbian. For you to talk to Demi like that, shows how little YOU know about Maydanna and what her true intent here was. She came here under false pretenses, deceived her friend, tried arguing that homosexuality is okay, and got mad when we corrected her. She rejected and defied all attempts to teach her the truth. Truth that she already knows but has chosen to twist and reject.
Demi is one of the smartest, mature teenagers on here and has an incredible gift of discernment. Maydanna is NOT unsaved. She's a former christian who, by her own admission was "a very devoted christian." She has been deceived since then, and admits that she knows she's doing spiritual harm to herself, but doesn't see how homosexuality affects her and others. No amount of talking, giving bible verses, or lecturing her would have worked. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot force it to drink.. Not to mention, Maydanna LIED, about a mod allowing her to come back here, so her agenda and reasons for being here are glaringly obvious. You wanna bag on someone? Bag on satan for making Maydanna so rebellious. But don't bag on Demi for being able to discern May's true intents for being here.. Maydanna DOES KNOW GOOD FROM EVIL. She simply chooses to acknowlege the difference.. So you're wasting your time trying to "save her". Only God can do that, and ONLY if she allows him to. She obviously isn't gonna do that anytime soon. :/
Demi is one of the smartest, mature teenagers on here and has an incredible gift of discernment.
Maydanna is NOT unsaved. She's a former christian who, by her own admission was "a very devoted christian." She has been deceived since then, and admits that she knows she's doing spiritual harm to herself, but doesn't see how homosexuality affects her and others. No amount of talking, giving bible verses, or lecturing her would have worked. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot force it to drink.. Not to mention, Maydanna LIED, about a mod allowing her to come back here, so her agenda and reasons for being here are glaringly obvious. You wanna bag on someone? Bag on satan for making Maydanna so rebellious. But don't bag on Demi for being able to discern May's true intents for being here.. Maydanna DOES KNOW GOOD FROM EVIL. She simply chooses to acknowlege the difference.. So you're wasting your time trying to "save her". Only God can do that, and ONLY if she allows him to. She obviously isn't gonna do that anytime soon. :/
"Sweet child"? LOL.. That sounds rather condescending.. YOU aren't much older than she is. And she's smarter than half of the adults here.. She's also one of the most loving people here, and had Maydanna been ENTIRELY honest about why she was here, I'm sure Demi could have helped her. However, May come on here with one agenda: to flip God the birdie, and blatantly tell us that homosexuality is not harmful. If you expect us to agree with her, then you obviously don't know us. May's agenda was to twist, and reject God and his word. We called her on it, and she became even more rebellious. Being loving and comforting on someone like that, WILL NOT work, not when their mindset is set in stone.
She's also one of the most loving people here, and had Maydanna been ENTIRELY honest about why she was here, I'm sure Demi could have helped her. However, May come on here with one agenda: to flip God the birdie, and blatantly tell us that homosexuality is not harmful. If you expect us to agree with her, then you obviously don't know us. May's agenda was to twist, and reject God and his word. We called her on it, and she became even more rebellious. Being loving and comforting on someone like that, WILL NOT work, not when their mindset is set in stone.lol sis I truly had to laugh when I saw his age.. thinking that my brother is 26..he just 28..lol!
Well goodness what a day lol sweet child..by someone whos just years older than my brother... That reminded me of my brother yesterday ... naw not gonna go there lol!!
Better sweet child than bratty child ((hugs))
Well goodness what a day lol sweet child..by someone whos just years older than my brother... That reminded me of my brother yesterday ... naw not gonna go there lol!!
Better sweet child than bratty child
((hugs))
"Sweet child"? LOL.. That sounds rather condescending.. YOU aren't much older than she is. And she's smarter than half of the adults here.. She's also one of the most loving people here, and had Maydanna been ENTIRELY honest about why she was here, I'm sure Demi could have helped her. However, May come on here with one agenda: to flip God the birdie, and blatantly tell us that homosexuality is not harmful. If you expect us to agree with her, then you obviously don't know us. May's agenda was to twist, and reject God and his word. We called her on it, and she became even more rebellious. Being loving and comforting on someone like that, WILL NOT work, not when their mindset is set in stone.
She's also one of the most loving people here, and had Maydanna been ENTIRELY honest about why she was here, I'm sure Demi could have helped her. However, May come on here with one agenda: to flip God the birdie, and blatantly tell us that homosexuality is not harmful. If you expect us to agree with her, then you obviously don't know us. May's agenda was to twist, and reject God and his word. We called her on it, and she became even more rebellious. Being loving and comforting on someone like that, WILL NOT work, not when their mindset is set in stone.
Wanderer, you are sweet for wanting to try and save Maydanna. However, WE cannot save her. WE cannot show her love the way God can. She has made her choice, and given God the middle finger salute. And she will answer for that one day. All we can do is hope that God will reach her before it's too late.. There comes a time when God says, if the sinner won't listen to you then it's time to shake off the dust.. NO ONE here would have made her change her mind regarding homosexuality and it's effect, or lack thereof in her eyes, on the body, soul and salvation.
However, WE cannot save her. WE cannot show her love the way God can. She has made her choice, and given God the middle finger salute. And she will answer for that one day. All we can do is hope that God will reach her before it's too late.. There comes a time when God says, if the sinner won't listen to you then it's time to shake off the dust.. NO ONE here would have made her change her mind regarding homosexuality and it's effect, or lack thereof in her eyes, on the body, soul and salvation.
Lord almighty sister! from your testimony you should know just as well that preaching that way and saying that stuff to you would have no effect. if someone on this forum talked to you when you were in the occult the way you did on this forum youd be trying to curse them. now im really confused lol but i'll repose this, a way to approach the unbeliever.
its a foundation in God, and to knowing Him. its 4 part; knowing the Father, knowing who you are in Him, knowing there is an enemy, and finally how to worship Him(or fellowship).
all from 5 verses in Matthew.
Matthew 6:9-13King James Version (KJV)
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
this is how it breaks down.
the Father
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
John 14:7King James Version (KJV)
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Jesus is a clear example of the Father they bear the same name and image, look to the Gospels and see who He is, and His love for you.
1 John 3:1-2King James Version (KJV)
3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
when you know who He is you can start to see who you are in Him, you are His beautiful daughter. and He has done everything to reach you.
2 Corinthians 4:4King James Version (KJV)
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
the devil is the enemy. he comes to steal, kill, and destroy. he is the father of all lies and the one that leads the lost farther from Christ, once you know him, you can resist him.
1 John 1King James Version (KJV)
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
once you see it all come together you will see the glory of God manifest in you life, you will see him move, you will walk with him in love. as He has always been he will always be with you sister. if you have a bible start with the Gospel of John ans see who He is and then go to the epistle to see who you are in Him sister.
i leave you with this.
2 Thessalonians 2:13-14King James Version (KJV)
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
its a foundation in God, and to knowing Him. its 4 part; knowing the Father, knowing who you are in Him, knowing there is an enemy, and finally how to worship Him(or fellowship).
all from 5 verses in Matthew.
Matthew 6:9-13King James Version (KJV)
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
this is how it breaks down.
the Father
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
John 14:7King James Version (KJV)
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Jesus is a clear example of the Father they bear the same name and image, look to the Gospels and see who He is, and His love for you.
1 John 3:1-2King James Version (KJV)
3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
when you know who He is you can start to see who you are in Him, you are His beautiful daughter. and He has done everything to reach you.
2 Corinthians 4:4King James Version (KJV)
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
the devil is the enemy. he comes to steal, kill, and destroy. he is the father of all lies and the one that leads the lost farther from Christ, once you know him, you can resist him.
1 John 1King James Version (KJV)
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
once you see it all come together you will see the glory of God manifest in you life, you will see him move, you will walk with him in love. as He has always been he will always be with you sister. if you have a bible start with the Gospel of John ans see who He is and then go to the epistle to see who you are in Him sister.
i leave you with this.
2 Thessalonians 2:13-14King James Version (KJV)
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
"Sweet child"? LOL.. That sounds rather condescending.. YOU aren't much older than she is. And she's smarter than half of the adults here.. She's also one of the most loving people here, and had Maydanna been ENTIRELY honest about why she was here, I'm sure Demi could have helped her. However, May come on here with one agenda: to flip God the birdie, and blatantly tell us that homosexuality is not harmful. If you expect us to agree with her, then you obviously don't know us. May's agenda was to twist, and reject God and his word. We called her on it, and she became even more rebellious. Being loving and comforting on someone like that, WILL NOT work, not when their mindset is set in stone.
She's also one of the most loving people here, and had Maydanna been ENTIRELY honest about why she was here, I'm sure Demi could have helped her. However, May come on here with one agenda: to flip God the birdie, and blatantly tell us that homosexuality is not harmful. If you expect us to agree with her, then you obviously don't know us. May's agenda was to twist, and reject God and his word. We called her on it, and she became even more rebellious. Being loving and comforting on someone like that, WILL NOT work, not when their mindset is set in stone.
lol sis I truly had to laugh when I saw his age.. thinking that my brother is 26..he just 28..lol!
Well goodness what a day lol sweet child..by someone whos just years older than my brother... That reminded me of my brother yesterday ... naw not gonna go there lol!!
Better sweet child than bratty child ((hugs))
Well goodness what a day lol sweet child..by someone whos just years older than my brother... That reminded me of my brother yesterday ... naw not gonna go there lol!!
Better sweet child than bratty child
((hugs))
At least Demi was open enough to actually LISTEN to people regarding her dealings with the occult. She was willing to be shown the way to the Lord. Maydanna, on the other hand, had and has absolutely no intention at all of changing her mind about homosexuality not being harmful. She is delusional, deceived, and all we can do is pray for her. At least Demi has clear, wide open eyes to see. Maydanna's eyes are open, and they see, but she refuses to take off the dark glasses she is wearing..
Yet the way I talked to her, is what woke me up from hating every man I see on the street. I had more than enough rejection from people in forums etc. God himself spoke to me to decide, and I did. Thats why I am here today.
Yet when it came to issues like hating men and keeping up doing stuff and keeping resentment.. People had to pretty much kick my bum for me to wake up and start thinking. I was blind to love. I liked it but every loving attemt was blocked. Shaking me by my shoulders was the only way for me.. because thats what made me think.
hmm theyre angry at me tho im the one angry at them.. why are they being angry now..wait..why am I being angry..
Yet when it came to issues like hating men and keeping up doing stuff and keeping resentment.. People had to pretty much kick my bum for me to wake up and start thinking. I was blind to love. I liked it but every loving attemt was blocked. Shaking me by my shoulders was the only way for me.. because thats what made me think.
hmm theyre angry at me tho im the one angry at them.. why are they being angry now..wait..why am I being angry..
Lord almighty sister! from your testimony you should know just as well that preaching that way and saying that stuff to you would have no effect. if someone on this forum talked to you when you were in the occult the way you did on this forum youd be trying to curse them. now im really confused lol but i'll repose this, a way to approach the unbeliever.
its a foundation in God, and to knowing Him. its 4 part; knowing the Father, knowing who you are in Him, knowing there is an enemy, and finally how to worship Him(or fellowship).
all from 5 verses in Matthew.
Matthew 6:9-13King James Version (KJV)
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
this is how it breaks down.
the Father
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
John 14:7King James Version (KJV)
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Jesus is a clear example of the Father they bear the same name and image, look to the Gospels and see who He is, and His love for you.
1 John 3:1-2King James Version (KJV)
3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
when you know who He is you can start to see who you are in Him, you are His beautiful daughter. and He has done everything to reach you.
2 Corinthians 4:4King James Version (KJV)
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
the devil is the enemy. he comes to steal, kill, and destroy. he is the father of all lies and the one that leads the lost farther from Christ, once you know him, you can resist him.
1 John 1King James Version (KJV)
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
once you see it all come together you will see the glory of God manifest in you life, you will see him move, you will walk with him in love. as He has always been he will always be with you sister. if you have a bible start with the Gospel of John ans see who He is and then go to the epistle to see who you are in Him sister.
i leave you with this.
2 Thessalonians 2:13-14King James Version (KJV)
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
its a foundation in God, and to knowing Him. its 4 part; knowing the Father, knowing who you are in Him, knowing there is an enemy, and finally how to worship Him(or fellowship).
all from 5 verses in Matthew.
Matthew 6:9-13King James Version (KJV)
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
this is how it breaks down.
the Father
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
John 14:7King James Version (KJV)
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Jesus is a clear example of the Father they bear the same name and image, look to the Gospels and see who He is, and His love for you.
1 John 3:1-2King James Version (KJV)
3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
when you know who He is you can start to see who you are in Him, you are His beautiful daughter. and He has done everything to reach you.
2 Corinthians 4:4King James Version (KJV)
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
the devil is the enemy. he comes to steal, kill, and destroy. he is the father of all lies and the one that leads the lost farther from Christ, once you know him, you can resist him.
1 John 1King James Version (KJV)
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
once you see it all come together you will see the glory of God manifest in you life, you will see him move, you will walk with him in love. as He has always been he will always be with you sister. if you have a bible start with the Gospel of John ans see who He is and then go to the epistle to see who you are in Him sister.
i leave you with this.
2 Thessalonians 2:13-14King James Version (KJV)
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Wanderer, you are sweet for wanting to try and save Maydanna. However, WE cannot save her. WE cannot show her love the way God can. She has made her choice, and given God the middle finger salute. And she will answer for that one day. All we can do is hope that God will reach her before it's too late.. There comes a time when God says, if the sinner won't listen to you then it's time to shake off the dust.. NO ONE here would have made her change her mind regarding homosexuality and it's effect, or lack thereof in her eyes, on the body, soul and salvation.
However, WE cannot save her. WE cannot show her love the way God can. She has made her choice, and given God the middle finger salute. And she will answer for that one day. All we can do is hope that God will reach her before it's too late.. There comes a time when God says, if the sinner won't listen to you then it's time to shake off the dust.. NO ONE here would have made her change her mind regarding homosexuality and it's effect, or lack thereof in her eyes, on the body, soul and salvation.