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Hi.
There are some people here who will be able to give much better advice than me about this,
but my two cents are: Don't try to fight it alone. If haven't already, make sure you seek professional help (and also, let someone you trust know about if, but keep in mind that while they can give support, they are not professional counsellors)
I've never sought help of that kind, but I have had friends to talk to who have been going through similar things, and it helped talking to them about it.
...and, though this could just be my imagination, but I think it gets worse with a high sugar intake, and better with a (reasonably) healthy diet. Also, making sure to get enough daylight helps a lot!
There are some people here who will be able to give much better advice than me about this,
but my two cents are: Don't try to fight it alone. If haven't already, make sure you seek professional help (and also, let someone you trust know about if, but keep in mind that while they can give support, they are not professional counsellors)
I've never sought help of that kind, but I have had friends to talk to who have been going through similar things, and it helped talking to them about it.
...and, though this could just be my imagination, but I think it gets worse with a high sugar intake, and better with a (reasonably) healthy diet. Also, making sure to get enough daylight helps a lot!
Yeah, sugar is a beast of mine. And I don't go out much because I have no friends. What depresses me mostly, is the purposelessness of nearly everything. Why do I bother to work living at home still, is there anything I can do other than give all my money away to the needy and go to church Sunday night. Why do I get out of bed when there's seemingly no1 and nothing to see, do etc.
When I was a young adult, i suffered from depression. On one occasion I got counseling from a psychiatrist. On another I was sent to be counseled by a Catholic nun. On a third I just had a talk with an Episcopal minister.
If you have a pastor you could talk to, you might do that. I think talking with someone helped. However, there can be things in our lifestyles that bring on depression, even if we aren't aware of them. Be aware of the Lord's commandments.
Many Christians are living under a great depression. If they were to tell you their stories, it will all end the same way...life has not been fair. Just so you know that you're not alone. The bible is full of men and women who became discourage.
Job said, "Better is the day of my death then the day of my birth." Jonah ask God to kill him because he was so depressed and discourage. Moses windup wondering in a wilderness tending sheep for forty years when he was raised to be a Pharaoh. Even the Great Apostle Paul says, "I was down to the point of death." So even the great names in the bible had a battle with depression. If you read the Psalms you'll see David say over and over and over again, "Oh my soul - why are you so disturbed within me.
And if you have not experience depression keep on living. Life has a way of showing up and showing out. It is doing this time Christians must draw near with full confidence to Lord Jesus Christ. The scripture also says to encourage one another and build each other up.
Pastor Tony Evans
Job said, "Better is the day of my death then the day of my birth." Jonah ask God to kill him because he was so depressed and discourage. Moses windup wondering in a wilderness tending sheep for forty years when he was raised to be a Pharaoh. Even the Great Apostle Paul says, "I was down to the point of death." So even the great names in the bible had a battle with depression. If you read the Psalms you'll see David say over and over and over again, "Oh my soul - why are you so disturbed within me.
And if you have not experience depression keep on living. Life has a way of showing up and showing out. It is doing this time Christians must draw near with full confidence to Lord Jesus Christ. The scripture also says to encourage one another and build each other up.
Pastor Tony Evans
While a saint being led of the Spirit can experience a time where they are not up to par,it will not be the same as the world experiences it,and probably is not labeled as depression,for the attributes the Spirit gives,peace that passes all understanding,joy that no person takes away,and love,causes a saint to not feel the same way the world does,which means it will not drag them down like it can the world at times,and they will be able to bounce back easy.
Saints will mourn for people,and get mad at some things,get upset over some things,but then they have the comfort of the Spirit that causes them to be able to endure it,and bounce back quick and get a move on,where the world by their feelings will be more down in the dumps,and might carry that depression for quite a while.
So I do not know if I would label it depression,for the saints will not experience their problems,and things that upset them,as harshly as the world,because of the attributes of the Spirit working in their life.
Basically, your saying being a Christian is more depressing than "normal" living. Because we care more. Maybe. And it's basically going to continue. Maybe.
...If God is for me, who can be against me? Romans 8:31 NKJV
The Lord is on my side; I will not fear...Psalm 118:6 NKJV
Psalm 91 New King James Version (NKJV)
Safety of Abiding in the Presence of God
91 He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High
Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress;
My God, in Him I will trust.”
3 Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler[a]
And from the perilous pestilence.
4 He shall cover you with His feathers,
And under His wings you shall take refuge;
His truth shall be your shield and buckler.
5 You shall not be afraid of the terror by night,
Nor of the arrow that flies by day,
6 Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness,
Nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
8 Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because you have made the Lord, who is my refuge,
Even the Most High, your dwelling place,
10 No evil shall befall you,
Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling;
11 For He shall give His angels charge over you,
To keep you in all your ways.
12 In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.
13 You shall tread upon the lion and the cobra,
The young lion and the serpent you shall trample underfoot.
14 “Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him;
I will set him on high, because he has known My name.
15 He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble;
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him,
And show him My salvation.”
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I don't know if you're depressed because a lot or even a few things have gone wrong or you are just feeling that way.
I've had both happen, and no.
I can't tell you how I got through it, but I can tell you you will get through it.
I know it seems like you won't, but even when you feel like you don't have enough strength to keep going every time there comes something that keeps pushing you along....
It doesn't last forever.... I promise.....
this HTML class. Value is https://youtu.be/9FZ
I've had both happen, and no.
I can't tell you how I got through it, but I can tell you you will get through it.
I know it seems like you won't, but even when you feel like you don't have enough strength to keep going every time there comes something that keeps pushing you along....
It doesn't last forever.... I promise.....
this HTML class. Value is https://youtu.be/9FZ
Isa 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
This is concerning Jesus,so a saint can experience sorrows and grief,but it is not the same as the world,for the saints sorrows and griefs are different than the world,for it is about caring for the welfare of people,and weeping for them,and their own salvation,and not in a selfish way,like woe is me for I could not score that weed tonight,and my life sucks for I did not hit the lottery,and my girlfriend who I am not married to left me,and the saints have the comfort of the Spirit.
But of course a saint cannot have sorrow and grief like the man Christ Jesus unless they are led of the Spirit,but weeping endures for the night,but joy comes in the morning,which we have times of sorrow for the welfare of people,and for our own self spiritually,but God will always lift us up,and we will experience joy,and never get down in the dumps liken the world,but a saint led of the Spirit experiences joy no matter what happens in their life,for Jesus said I give you joy that no person takes away,and the joy of the LORD is our strength,for it gives us moving on despite any problems.
I have joy living in Christ. But I have depression because I have little else. No home of my own, no secure job, never had a gf, wife or kids. Have no friends. Have little to do but some bits n pieces. I'm not suicidal, anymore. But that's Christ, not me. If I'm always alone except Christ, always broke, always living at home what is there but Christ? Is that the way it stays unless God does something? Don't have a clue and have given up on trying for anything other than Christ, because I'll fail my way, as always.
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And Christ is all you need.
I know, not the answer you want, but the truth.
Maybe, just maybe He is doing this for a reason.
bitachon child, trust in God. He knows what he's doing.
Even if it's hard to see
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Short term depression is situational. Most long term depression has deeper reasons ranging from medical to hormonal, dietary or brain chemical. Many in this site think it's feasible to believe the physical body can get sick, but that the body doesn't affect the mind. Or that the physical brain can't get sick and affect our thoughts. So much ignorance abounds on the subject here. And often the first to respond are those that don't know what it's like to battle depression for years. They think their magic genie, God, will just jump when we command and everything is peachy keen.
First step is have a doctor run any tests on your body for issues known to cause depression. Could be something as simple as an allergy. Or a deficiency in an area. Once physical symptoms are rules out then you can check for professional.
Meds should always be a last resort when everything else has been ruled out and nothing else works.
A few things known to help are being on a consistent sleep pattern, ideally sleeping at night. Eating healthy and exercise. They sound cliche, but are all proven to aid against depression. I once knew a guy dealing with mild depression and suggested those changes. He listened and within a few months went from doing nothing with his life to joining the military, and said it was because of the changed I suggested.
In case you're wondering i am a 41 year old battling depression since I was 14.
First step is have a doctor run any tests on your body for issues known to cause depression. Could be something as simple as an allergy. Or a deficiency in an area. Once physical symptoms are rules out then you can check for professional.
Meds should always be a last resort when everything else has been ruled out and nothing else works.
A few things known to help are being on a consistent sleep pattern, ideally sleeping at night. Eating healthy and exercise. They sound cliche, but are all proven to aid against depression. I once knew a guy dealing with mild depression and suggested those changes. He listened and within a few months went from doing nothing with his life to joining the military, and said it was because of the changed I suggested.
In case you're wondering i am a 41 year old battling depression since I was 14.
I am finding out that most of my long term depression has been linked to my horrible abusive marriage and the fact that my sleep schedule is very messed up to having non at all..... When your sleep cycle is disturbed and or you suffer from long term sleeplessness it wears you out emotionally and physically. I also found that the more I accomplish things that make me feel good and happy the better I felt all around. Like I got a part time job.. I started college and such.. take on doing things that will build you up..
sounds to me like you have always been trying to prove yourself to someone in your life that your good enough.... I am guessing father maybe.. I am also guessing like you still feel like your not good enough according to this persons standards.... I know this because I lived this I was always being told when I was little how i was stupid and would never amount to anything by my father.. That cut me like a knife and left a wound on me so deep I could never imagine how much damage it would cause me.... Through lots of therapy and I mean lots of it I discovered that I need to be ok with me and accept that I do not have to please anyone but myself and God.... The more i got out and did things that made me proud of myself the less y depression got and the stronger I got... I started out slow mind you I got a part time job after being on disability for over 6 years.. I was ready to quit that job two weeks in because i was stressing out thinking I was never going to do the job right or good enough and I hated it.... But i forced myself to stay.. I said self your not allowed to think about quitting again for 6 weeks.. well 6 weeks went by and I had built a customer base and i really stated to enjoy my job and look forward to seeing my customers everyday... Now I was just a cashier at a gas station but it gave me some really good courage just by that little job... From there i started my college classes and was ready to quit those 3 weeks in because i had convinced myself I was going to fail.. Once again I said nope you have to finish one entire semester you can not quit.... So i carried on and finished the semester with all A's yeah me... So you can be your own worst enemy here you see I had a pattern of convincing myself of failure before i have even tried... I call it self sabotage.... I will talk myself out of things because it is easier to not try then it is to try and fail....Hope that helps and maybe hits home with you I could be dead wrong about it all together but either way this is what helped me with my depression
Depression has many causes; often it is just a chemical or hormonal imbalance in our bodies. That can be medically determined and corrected.
But all too often depression is caused by one's observance that what they receive from the world is not "as good" as what they see others getting out of the world. And the Bible has an answer to that:
John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
John 12:25
Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
2 Corinthians 12:10
That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
1 Corinthians 4
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place; [SUP]12 [/SUP]And labor, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: [SUP]13 [/SUP]Being defamed, we entreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the off scouring of all things unto this day. [SUP]14 [/SUP]I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you."
Matthew 5
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. 5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. 7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. 8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Matthew 10
22 You will be hated by everyone because of Me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Philippians 1
21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. 25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain, and I will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith
1 Thessalonians 3
7 Therefore, brothers and sisters, in all our distress and persecution we were encouraged about you because of your faith. 8 For now we really live, since you are standing firm in the Lord.
So when you see people of the world reaping benefits of the world that you are not, your response should not be to think that you are losing out, but that you actually wouldn't have it any other way
you are a hypocrite you talk all nice to a guy who has problems... But you bash me and belittle me about me want to leave an abusive husband... You sir are disrespectful and if you are a pastor your a crappy one these are your own words The scripture also says to encourage one another and build each other up.
Pastor Tony Evans your own words and yet you tore me apart like a wolf on a dead animal.. you are a disgrace plain and simple... you are a woman hating bigot
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PRO. 15:13.
A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.
11COR. 9:7.
Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity:
for God loveth a cheerful giver.
1TH. 2:6.
Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome,
as the apostles of Christ.
4:13.
But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep,
that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
JOB 11:18.
And thou shalt be secure, because there is hope; yea, thou shalt dig about thee,
and thou shalt take thy rest in safety.
PS. 31:24.
Be of good courage, and He shall strengthen your heart, all ye that hope in The LORD.
42:5.
Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted in me? hope thou in God:
for I shall yet praise hhm for the help of his countenance.
1JOHN 3:2-3.
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be:
but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
And every man that hath this hope in Him purifieth himself, even as He is pure.