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What makes you think God is going to change for you?
The victory is already won in Christ. If you received a conditional salvation you did not get the real deal. You cannot submit to Christ and withhold a pet sin. The gospel has not changed and there are still men who reject the gospel.
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 ¶ Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The victory is already won in Christ. If you received a conditional salvation you did not get the real deal. You cannot submit to Christ and withhold a pet sin. The gospel has not changed and there are still men who reject the gospel.
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 ¶ Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
"neither male nor female" ((Galatians 3:28)) does not mean "both male and female"
and this occurs in Christ, in whom there is no deception, and no wavering, and no inconclusiveness.
confusion is not an aspect of the Spirit we must be born of. it is of the flesh, or it is of an altogether different spirit.
and this occurs in Christ, in whom there is no deception, and no wavering, and no inconclusiveness.
confusion is not an aspect of the Spirit we must be born of. it is of the flesh, or it is of an altogether different spirit.
In answer to the question in the OP, take a look at this verse from Deuteronomy 22:
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Does it say that only Hebrews who do this are abomination unto the LORD? Does it say only those who did so 3000 years ago were an abomination? No, it doesn't say that. It doesn't put a time or cultural limitation on it.
If God finds it an abomination, it shouldn't bother us to much if some of us find it to be an abomination/repulsive/disgusting. I find it rather disgusting, in particular, if a man is dressed up in drag trying to be an attractive woman. It's also very self-destructive, too. I forget the suicide rates on those who go all the way to the extreme of transgendered operations. I think it was around 40%. I read an article from someone from Johns Hopskins who helped develop the perverted procedure who said their hospital got out of it when they found out how destructive these operations were.
The ancient world had their versions of transgenders, eunuchs who dressed up like women. (They probably weren't as artistic about chopping them up back then, but it's the same thing. Post-op transgendered men are eunuchs who dress like women.) They had people who engaged in homosexual activity. Philo, in the first century wrote about them. He thought transvestites, transgenders, those who performed homosexual acts, etc. all deserved to die.
The Canaanites had plenty of sexual perversion. We think of religion as promoting at the least decent morals. Back then, their religion didn't. They had fertility rituals of all types, and sexual immorality as a part of it. Polytheism is often that way. Greeks had an idol for drinking and so they could drink and make it a religious festival, too. Hinduism is the same way. People used to sacrifice to Kali, and there is a goddess for prostitutes in Hinduism. Any nasty sin has a god attached to it for polytheists.
They used to mix sexual perversion with idolatry. But that doesn't make sexual immorality okay if we divorce it from paganism. First century pagans mixed paganism with prostitution, but hiring atheist prostitutes doesn't make prostitution okay. Prostitution is forbidden and idolatry is forbidden. Paul teaches against both issues separately in I Corinthians. So we can't say prostitution is wrong only because of idolatry.
And we shouldn't say that cross dressing was wrong only because we guess that it was mixed with paganism like so many aspects of Canaanite daily life were. If all who do such are an abomination to the LORD, then those who do so without a religious motivation are as well.
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Does it say that only Hebrews who do this are abomination unto the LORD? Does it say only those who did so 3000 years ago were an abomination? No, it doesn't say that. It doesn't put a time or cultural limitation on it.
If God finds it an abomination, it shouldn't bother us to much if some of us find it to be an abomination/repulsive/disgusting. I find it rather disgusting, in particular, if a man is dressed up in drag trying to be an attractive woman. It's also very self-destructive, too. I forget the suicide rates on those who go all the way to the extreme of transgendered operations. I think it was around 40%. I read an article from someone from Johns Hopskins who helped develop the perverted procedure who said their hospital got out of it when they found out how destructive these operations were.
The ancient world had their versions of transgenders, eunuchs who dressed up like women. (They probably weren't as artistic about chopping them up back then, but it's the same thing. Post-op transgendered men are eunuchs who dress like women.) They had people who engaged in homosexual activity. Philo, in the first century wrote about them. He thought transvestites, transgenders, those who performed homosexual acts, etc. all deserved to die.
The Canaanites had plenty of sexual perversion. We think of religion as promoting at the least decent morals. Back then, their religion didn't. They had fertility rituals of all types, and sexual immorality as a part of it. Polytheism is often that way. Greeks had an idol for drinking and so they could drink and make it a religious festival, too. Hinduism is the same way. People used to sacrifice to Kali, and there is a goddess for prostitutes in Hinduism. Any nasty sin has a god attached to it for polytheists.
They used to mix sexual perversion with idolatry. But that doesn't make sexual immorality okay if we divorce it from paganism. First century pagans mixed paganism with prostitution, but hiring atheist prostitutes doesn't make prostitution okay. Prostitution is forbidden and idolatry is forbidden. Paul teaches against both issues separately in I Corinthians. So we can't say prostitution is wrong only because of idolatry.
And we shouldn't say that cross dressing was wrong only because we guess that it was mixed with paganism like so many aspects of Canaanite daily life were. If all who do such are an abomination to the LORD, then those who do so without a religious motivation are as well.
While God may be beyond gender, having existed before human gender was created, that does not mean God is both man and woman. Man and woman are defined by their difference from eachother -- a difference which God created with a purpose.
You should seek God's wisdom on why God made man and woman two distinct parts of humanity, because if what you say is true, God would have made us all hermaphrodites. Humans that are born intersex, are extremely rare (a lot more rare than transgender folks who just -feel- dissonant). So it's most likely that God made you a man or a woman, and your dissonant feelings about that are not coming from God.
Of course God loves you and will help you with whatever issue is making you feel unmanly or unwomanly. But that is not the same as telling you that whatever you feel is the truth. And without the real truth, there's no real love. If you sub in your own truth to shelter yourself from whatever pain is making you feel dissonant, you will end up further from God's love, which is much more sincere than a politically correct religious spirit's version of love.
The world's version of love says, 'I love you, do whatever you want'. God's version of love says, 'I love you no matter what you do, but I want us to do things together'. There is no power to change in the world's form of love, because it is based around the self, not on something bigger than the self. Similarly your doctrine on crossdressing is based around making people comfortable with their feelings in this life, instead of transforming them into a new creation. It's actually more comfortable to put all our identity problems on the cross and let God cleanse us and fight our battles for us.
"Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
Nothing against you personally, but I believe the enemy creates these identity issues to divide people and cause them to fight. As long as you accept that your feelings, your soul, and the way the world thinks, is what defines you, you will have to defend that worldly identity with worldly doctrines. And it will come between you and God. God is not the author of confusion (1 cor 14:33). This is part of the spiritual war we are all fighting, and we all need God's help, but we have to let God help us. God has something much better for you.
You should seek God's wisdom on why God made man and woman two distinct parts of humanity, because if what you say is true, God would have made us all hermaphrodites. Humans that are born intersex, are extremely rare (a lot more rare than transgender folks who just -feel- dissonant). So it's most likely that God made you a man or a woman, and your dissonant feelings about that are not coming from God.
Of course God loves you and will help you with whatever issue is making you feel unmanly or unwomanly. But that is not the same as telling you that whatever you feel is the truth. And without the real truth, there's no real love. If you sub in your own truth to shelter yourself from whatever pain is making you feel dissonant, you will end up further from God's love, which is much more sincere than a politically correct religious spirit's version of love.
The world's version of love says, 'I love you, do whatever you want'. God's version of love says, 'I love you no matter what you do, but I want us to do things together'. There is no power to change in the world's form of love, because it is based around the self, not on something bigger than the self. Similarly your doctrine on crossdressing is based around making people comfortable with their feelings in this life, instead of transforming them into a new creation. It's actually more comfortable to put all our identity problems on the cross and let God cleanse us and fight our battles for us.
"Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
Nothing against you personally, but I believe the enemy creates these identity issues to divide people and cause them to fight. As long as you accept that your feelings, your soul, and the way the world thinks, is what defines you, you will have to defend that worldly identity with worldly doctrines. And it will come between you and God. God is not the author of confusion (1 cor 14:33). This is part of the spiritual war we are all fighting, and we all need God's help, but we have to let God help us. God has something much better for you.
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If we love cross-dressers, we can tell them to stop being cross dressers. The Bible says that all who do such are abomination to the LORD. It doesn't limit it to context, time, situation, etc. If God doesn't like it, why should you?
Do you love God enough to stop dressing like a girl and grossing everyone out. 99% of cross dressers look disgusting when they do it, and the ones that don't disgust people who don't.
If you were walking around with your pants unzipped toilet paper stuck to your shoe, and dried snot hanging out of your nose, I may just be kind enough to tell you about these things, because it just looks bad. If I just ignored it and said nothing to you when you walked out in public like that, so I could be entertained by everyone's reaction, would that be loving?
Cross dressing looks bad. But worse than that, God doesn't like it. So you shouldn't do it.
Do you love God enough to stop dressing like a girl and grossing everyone out. 99% of cross dressers look disgusting when they do it, and the ones that don't disgust people who don't.
If you were walking around with your pants unzipped toilet paper stuck to your shoe, and dried snot hanging out of your nose, I may just be kind enough to tell you about these things, because it just looks bad. If I just ignored it and said nothing to you when you walked out in public like that, so I could be entertained by everyone's reaction, would that be loving?
Cross dressing looks bad. But worse than that, God doesn't like it. So you shouldn't do it.
I stand by my comments & i will not give up what i'm into, i'm a Christian who is constantly growing in faith & i'm not ashamed of being a cross-dresser, God has soken to me about it through the article that i have read as a way of reassuring me that He is ok with it. I will not be judged by ere mortals including my so called Christian brethen
You're completely deceived and delusional if you actually believe that God told you that He is okay with you cross-dressing..:/ I don't know what article you read, but I'm positive that nowhere in it, it says "I the Lord, am okay with your cross dressing." WE don't need to judge you, because one day soon GOD will judge you.
God spoke through Moses on the issue. You should know that it is a serious thing say that God has spoken. Why does what you believe disagree with what God told Moses on the issue?
It seems like you are just looking for something to confirm what you already believe so you will feel comfortable cross-dressing.
If God made you a man, be a man.
It seems like you are just looking for something to confirm what you already believe so you will feel comfortable cross-dressing.
If God made you a man, be a man.
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You say you're a christian, right? So obviously you know that cross-dressing is a sin. An abomination to God. This article you refer to is written by man, not God. Are you putting more trust in man's words, than you are in GOD'S word? I'm sorry but unless you were born with boobs and a vagina, you're not a woman.. lol.. Nor should you wear women's clothes, shoes, and makeup.
Okay lets start with this.. Matthew 19:4
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]them at the beginning made them male and female,[/FONT]
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Genesis 5:2 [/FONT]He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them "Mankind" when they were created.
Lesson one. God made male and female with both (obviously) with SEPERATE gifts and looks etc.
Deuteronomy 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are an abomination unto the LORD your God.
I really dont understand what is so hard there to get. God made man and woman. SO God wants woman to look like woman, and men to look like men.. DUUH
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]them at the beginning made them male and female,[/FONT]
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Genesis 5:2 [/FONT]He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them "Mankind" when they were created.
Lesson one. God made male and female with both (obviously) with SEPERATE gifts and looks etc.
Deuteronomy 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are an abomination unto the LORD your God.
I really dont understand what is so hard there to get. God made man and woman. SO God wants woman to look like woman, and men to look like men.. DUUH