Scientifically Proving the Existence of God

Base12 · Nov 24, 2016

So why does Jesus return in the "Clouds" like "Lightning"?

Doesn't anyone care?

Am I the only Christian that sees more to the teachings?

Doesn't anyone even bother to ask...

Why doesn't Jesus return from out of a Cave?

Why doesn't Jesus return by way of a Lake on a Boat?

Why doesn't Jesus return by simply appearing in Jerusalem?

Why doesn't Jesus return from the North Pole like Santa?

Why doesn't Jesus return from out of the Sea?

Why Lightning?

Why not Snow, Hail, Rain etc.?

Out of the bazillion ways for Jesus to return... why pick Clouds and Lightning and Rainbows?!??

The answer is...

Because God is trying to teach you something...

maxwel · Nov 24, 2016

Base12 said:

I believe there is PLENTY of scientific evidence to show the existence of God.

However... THIS is not it.

We can't just toss out some ideas about physics, and some ideas about theology, and just MAGICALLY SQUEEZE THEM INTO A CHART with IMAGINARY CORRELATIONS we've pulled out of our bottoms.

I'm really sorry, and I'm not trying to be unkind, but there isn't the slightest shred of correlation here for ANYTHING.

This is just meandering, nonsensical, illogical, mindless rubbish.
It's such rubbish that it borders on being completely mad.

This is the kind of bizarre mindless nonsense that makes Christians look like idiots.

I'm not even going to pick it apart.
There is NO PART that correlates to ANY OTHER PART in ANY WAY.

If anyone reading this thinks I'm being unkind, then I'll give you a challenge.
I challenge you to take the OP's first 2 posts, and try, in any way, to logically tie his conclusions to his evidence.
It doesn't work.
It doesn't even almost work.
It doesn't even come remotely close to working.
It wouldn't even come remotely close to working if you were on drugs.

There is much evidence to prove the existence of God.

But this is not it.

Base12 · Nov 24, 2016

maxwel · Nov 24, 2016

Uhh... did I just get trolled?

Is this a crazy troll thread and I'm just the last to know?

posthuman · Nov 25, 2016

Base12 said:

For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west,
so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
(Matthew 24:27)

For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning,
which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other.
(Luke 17:24)

this does not say, "Christ is made of electricity, and the crucifixion is atomic scientists splitting atoms" and it does not say "Christ will appear as a giant lightning bolt" or that "Christ will fall to the ground like lightning"

it says that just like lightning flashes all the way across the sky, just as a bolt from one side of the horizon can be seen from the other, Christ's coming will be seen by every eye. quickly, in the twinkling of an eye.

so why not from under a rock or out of the sea? here's another verse that tells us more of the specifics of His return:

After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them.
"Men of Galilee,"
they said,
"why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."
(Acts 1:11)

He didn't disappear into the ocean like gojira. He didn't stay behind that rock in front of His tomb, and He didn't crawl under one when He left. He didn't just go *poof* in Jerusalem. He was taken up in the sky. just as He was taken up -- into the air, beyond the cloud, He will return, with clouds, and before every eye on earth.

Base12 · Nov 27, 2016

posthuman said:

That's right! I almost forgot.

Thank you for reminding me of a very important lesson...

Matthew 17:1-2
"And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light"

Matthew 17:1-2
"While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him"

What is Light?

BTW, the Transfiguration is a foreshadow of what "The Restrainer" is.

2 Thessalonians 2:7
"For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way"

The Restrainer is none other than the Veil that separates Wave from Particle.

In other words, the collapse of the Wave Function (Restrainer) is what separates us from the Spirit World.

One of these days this Veil will be permanently parted, allowing us to see the Wave without collapsing it.

Jesus is the 'Middle Man'...

posthuman · Nov 27, 2016

Base12 said:

all of the visible light from the sun ((and any star)) comes from an outer ((but not the outermost)) shell called the photosphere.

the photosphere is a region of boiling plasma, rising and falling in a granular pattern. the photons radiating from this layer are the product of fusion within the sun's core, which have scattered their way to the 400 km or so layer where the plasma they are erupting in reaches altitude and they scatter for the last time before shining out in every direction.

as they leave the photosphere they enter the chromosphere, where they are slowed by helium atoms and receive color.

this has less to do with electricity and magnetism than you may think. photons and electrons are different things - charged helium and free electrons stream out of the corona as 'solar wind' along the magnetic field lines of the star, but the light, the photons, travels completely unbent by E or B fields.

Base12 · Nov 29, 2016

William86 said:

Did somebody say Freemasonry?

I hear they frequent this Forum.

Anyone care to discuss?

I see maxwel's Avatar is an "All Seeing Eye".

Are you an Initiate Bro?

CharlieGrown · Nov 29, 2016

[h=2]Re: Scientifically Proving the Existence of God[/h]Just prove something can come from nothing out of nowhere at any given time. Burden of proof is on those looking for proof. Prove God doesn't exist.

OneFaith · Nov 30, 2016

God always leaves room for faith, because without faith it's impossible to please God. However, I think creation and logic do prove God's signature. Look at colorful fish and birds- it is as if an Artist painted them- their patterns are clearly designed. Where there is design there is a Designer.

Intelligence does not come from non-intelligence. Physicality doesn't just appear suddenly and create a Big Bang that produces life. Even if it did, where did dirt and water (physicality) come from? I think it is harder to believe there is no God then to believe there is one.

DamaraXD · Dec 1, 2016

Genesis And Science: More Aligned Than You Think? | The Huffington Post

Base12 · Dec 1, 2016

DamaraXD said:

Thanks DamaraXD.

Finding correlations between Scripture and Science is very important in my humble opinion.

If you really like that sort of thing, I recommend Chuck Missler...

[video=youtube;OpFgyY429MY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpFgyY429MY&list=PLGhnTxL3AJd4xPgtcdc9VgfE VZhOHMML3[/video]

BeyondET · Dec 1, 2016

Then there's this, where does lightning come from, lightning is the earths core dissipating its biult up energy through its electromagnetic force field that is also produced by the earths core in which allows for a breathable atmosphere and protection from the Suns radiation and a lot of floating debre in and round the solar system.. IMO the earths core is the lesser light mentioned in scripture.

Base12 · Dec 1, 2016

Speaking of Genesis, there are some who believe in a 'Gap' of Time that exists in the middle of verse one and two...

Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

*Gap of Time/Destruction*

Genesis 1:2
"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters"

Whether One believes in this or not is up to them, however there is a lot of 'hiding of evidence' I've noticed among mainstream teachings regarding this theory.

One of the biggest pieces of evidence comes directly from Jesus Himself!

I will present it here as a matter of record.

We begin with these verses...

Luke 4:18-19
"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised"

"To preach the acceptable year of the Lord"

Now here's the strange part...

Luke 4:20-21
"And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him"

"And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears"

Jesus stopped in the middle of a verse and closed the Book.

Not only that, but He basically insinuated that only half of the Prophecy has been fulfilled!

What is the other half that is yet to come?

Isaiah 61:2
"...and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn"

Yes, the Day of Vengeance hasn't happened yet.

Did you catch what Jesus just did?

He just taught that a GAP of TIME can exist in the middle of a verse!

In fact, we are living in the Gap now!

How many years has it been? Two thousand or so?

So the next time someone tries to teach you that Gap theory is stupid, you best remind them of that verse.

Oh... but it gets even better!

What does this 'Day of Vengeance' look like anyhow?

Jeremiah 4:23
"I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light"

Hey look it's Genesis... or is it???

Jeremiah 4:26-27
"I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled"

"I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger"

Wait what!??!?

You mean to tell me the "Earth was without form and void" like in Genesis, and yet there were Cities and Birds etc.?

There was no light either?

Really?!?!

Sounds like we're not being told the entire Truth by the Christian Industrial Complex.

I hate to say it, but the New Agers may have gotten it right with their "Cycle of Ages" beliefs.

Now throw in a bit of Reincarnation Taboo...

Job 1:21
"And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD"

And you've basically just lost 99% of your Christian friends and have become much hated.

You are now... a Renegade Christian.

Be brave and trust Nobody.

Base12 · Dec 1, 2016

BeyondET said:

Hmmm...

Heart of the Hollow Earth eh?

Moon Child.

BeyondET · Dec 1, 2016

Base12 said:

Love your enemies 70x over, without the earths core there would be no life on earth, if the earths core just all of sudden cooled one day the magnetic field would be gone the oxygen in our atmosphere would no longer be contained and a human would live as long as a person can hold their breath unless you had some oxygen bottles or a sealed biulding producing oxygen. In any case it wouldn't be pretty for life on earth that is for sure..

Base12 · Dec 1, 2016

Base12 said:

No takers eh?

Oh come on, it's a fascinating topic!

Here, I'll start...

Freemasonry consists of two main 'Rites'...

Scottish Rite

York Rite

The Scottish Rite has Thirty Three Degrees.

The York Rite has Thirteen Degrees.

Together they add up to Forty Six...

Where have we seen that number before?

John 2:20
"Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?"

Yes, Forty Six is the number of the Temple...

Now then...

Freemasonry's stated goal is to build the Image of the Beast...

Thus, the Thirteen and Thirty Three Degrees are in reference to this Coming World Leader...

To be continued...

Base12 · Dec 3, 2016

Hey you guys, I need some help!

Any volunteers?

I am trying to find out which Gemstones would represent the Proton and the Neutron...

Can you humor me a bit and play along?

So... theoretically speaking... if the Holy Ghost represents the Electron/Beryl, what Gemstones would the Father/Neutron and Word/Proton be in the Chart above?

I would like serious answers please.

This is VERY IMPORTANT.

Base12 · Dec 3, 2016

^^^
I bet PostHuman or BeyondET can answer the above.

Oh if only there were someone smart enough to help determine what Gemstones are connected to the Proton and Neutron...

Base12 · Dec 4, 2016

Oh well...

Guess I'll just solve the Worlds Greatest Mystery all by myself then.

I should know better than to expect help from the Christian Community... Lol.

Nothing new under the sun as they say.

Anyhoo, here is another Mystery revealed...

1 John 5:7
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one"

FATHER = NEUTRON
WORD = PROTON
HOLY GHOST = ELECTRON

We already saw how the Electron matched up with the Beryl in the Standard Model of Particle Physics.

What about the Father and the Word?

Both the Neutron and the Proton are made up of smaller particles called UP and Down.

When compared to the Standard Model, the Up Quark matches with the Sardius or Sardine Stone.

The Down Quark matches with the Emerald.

What are the chances those two Gemstones would match up with the description of God?

Pretty much zero... unless what is being presented here is TRUTH.

Once again the KJV is the only uncorrupted version with the 'Codes' in it...

Revelation 4:3
"And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald"

And there you go...

The Father and Son, Sardius and Emerald, Up Quark and Down Quark, Holy Ghost, Electron/Beryl, all linked up for the entire World to behold.

Too bad this information has gone over everyone's egotistical heads.

What's really sad here is that this is the entire reason for the New Testament and Jesus having to go through what he did.

The Jews were supposed to see all of this thousands of years ago, but never did.

We Humans just aren't that smart unfortunately.

In fact...

Sprinkling Blood on the Ark of the Covenant was supposed to teach how Genetic Engineering works... again another FAIL.

Jesus had to sprinkle the Blood Himself in order to use His DNA as the template for the rest of us to be saved because we are just too stupid to get it.

How sad.

And here we are thousands of years later with all of our Technology and STILL no one gets it but a handful of people on the entire Planet.

Most of them have decided to use this information to become Gods... to Hell with the rest of us.

Luciferianism.

Transhumanism.

It is what it is.

Many of you will take the Mark of the Beast, not realizing it's DNA Augmentation.

Look at your Right Hand... see those fingerprints and palm prints?

That is your Mark... God given...

Isaiah 49:16
"Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me"

God literally has the fingerprints and palm prints of every one of his Saved, engraved in the palm of His hands.

DNA Augmentation will give you a new Mark... a new fingerprint and palm print.

The Forehead contains Facial Recognition features. A Mark unique to each individual.

Those will change as well.

It tears me up to see it happen right in front of my face.

I never thought I'd live to see the day where folks are actually receiving the Mark of the Beast.

Crazy.

Daniel 10:21
"But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince"

Good luck everyone.

Base12 out.

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