....Israel saw only Rome and not their sin as their oppressor.....
ALL Israel?
or did a remnant believe?
....Israel saw only Rome and not their sin as their oppressor.....
what nonsense.
we know the masses didn't
I thought we all knew many did - some of them gave us the NT
No it doesn't have anything to do with the Lord's return. Carefully read the verses below, they are saying that Zechariah 12:10 WAS fulfilled then. Those things were done so that the scripture would be fulfilled -"They shall look on him whom they pierced". Fulfilled... done... not future.Morning KJV1611,
The verse that LauenTM provided is regarding the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. In the context this event is apart of the day of the Lord. Therefore, it is not speaking about when Christ was crucified.
"And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be as great as the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. The land will mourn, each clan by itself, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives, the clan of the house of Levi and their wives, the clan of Shimei and their wives, and all the rest of the clans and their wives." - Zech.12:10
no, that was already explained in chapter 9, the "isreal in chapter 11 is physical.
Isreal is hated according to the gospel, but beloved according to election, gods gifts are irrevocable, he gae them a promise he ang gave them a gift he never gave anyone else
Who rejected Him in Pilots hall?ALL Israel?
or did a remnant believe?
Roger is correct. If you will go and read Zechariah 12:7-14, you will see that within the context the day of the Lord is being referred to, which has yet to begin.
Who rejected Him in Pilots hall?
As a nation Israel will not mourn for Jesus until they see Him descend from the clouds in great glory.
God always has a remnant but still deals with the nation as a whole. There is even a remnant of believers in the church. Not all that profess to be Christians are Christians. Many are ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth. Professing themselves to be wise they are become fools.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Who rejected Him in Pilots hall?
As a nation Israel will not ..........
How many were at the foot of the cross? They all deserted Him save a very few. Not until the Holy Spirit came were they strengthened and given a vision of the resurrected Christ did they know. The same message we declare today and by the power of the same Holy Spirit.what nonsense.
we know the masses didn't
I thought we all knew many did - some of them gave us the NT
Where is "As a nation Israel will not mourn for Jesus until they see Him descend... " found in the bible?
Roger is correct. If you will go and read Zechariah 12:7-14, you will see that within the context the day of the Lord is being referred to, which has yet to begin.
How many were at the foot of the cross? They all deserted Him save a very few. Not until the Holy Spirit came were they strengthened and given a vision of the resurrected Christ did they know. The same message we declare today and by the power of the same Holy Spirit.
Preterism has taken you far from the truth of Gods word.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
How many were at the foot of the cross? They all deserted Him save a very few. Not until the Holy Spirit came were they strengthened and given a vision of the resurrected Christ did they know. The same message we declare today and by the power of the same Holy Spirit.
Preterism has taken you far from the truth of Gods word.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Are you saying all of those that were yelling crucify him, crucify him didn't go watch the man that they hated suffer on the cross?
I agree completely, it is not a quantitive number.it doesn't matter how many there were at the foot of the cross.
the passage doesn't call for a quantitative number.
of course some/many/all those who arranged for his crucifixion were there - LOL
zech was the prophecy
first century saw the fulfillment
no matter what you say - lol
The bible tells you it took place at the cross.... how can you not understand that? It's written in the bible.Oh, that's a pretty good come back "cause I say so." What kind of Exegesis is that? It did not happen in the first century and that because it is specified in the context as taking place during "the day of the Lord," which as I said and scripture supports, has not yet begun. So no, it did not happen in the first century. You might want to go out and read what I listed and you will see that the time of this event is during the day of the Lord. That is of course unless you want to continue providing Kindergarten come-backs.
Who rejected Him in Pilots hall?
As a nation Israel will not mourn for Jesus until they see Him descend from the clouds in great glory.
God always has a remnant but still deals with the nation as a whole. There is even a remnant of believers in the church. Not all that profess to be Christians are Christians. Many are ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth. Professing themselves to be wise they are become fools.
The bible tells you it took place at the cross.... how can you not understand that? It's written in the bible.
Oh, that's a pretty good come back "cause I say so." What kind of Exegesis is that? It did not happen in the first century and that because it is specified in the context as taking place during "the day of the Lord," which as I said and scripture supports, has not yet begun. So no, it did not happen in the first century. You might want to go out and read what I listed and you will see that the time of this event is during the day of the Lord. That is of course unless you want to continue providing Kindergarten come-backs.