can we please take rapture stuff to a rapture thread etc.
this one is about replacement theology/the Church is Israel
Sorry.....when I see foolish regurgitated 19th century teaching by a woman propagated as truth I have to respond......
can we please take rapture stuff to a rapture thread etc.
this one is about replacement theology/the Church is Israel
I wonder why Dan isn't mentioned.
any ideas?
ek or ex doesn't mean raptured away from....in Rev 3:10 it means He preserves them through it (trib/wrath); as they coming out of tribulation (or wrath....the idea is the same).
Sorry.....when I see foolish regurgitated 19th century teaching by a woman propagated as truth I have to respond......
I hear ya. Margaret MacDonald the crazy gal.
her deal wasn't the worst of it, it's the gang who ran with her "vision"
I hear ya...going to be a lot of unprepared very surprised people....I think it will have a big impact on the apostasy....all of the ones who think they missed the boat with crap their proverbial pants....
Noah was one example......God told him exactly what to do....Noah was here when it rained...not magically BEAMED up
Is not Dan compared to a serpent.....some say that Dan is tied to the emergence of the Beast (so called Anti-Christ) of Revelation....not saying I believe that.......
Are you guys purposely being ignorant? Noah was preserved on the earth because he and his family were to repopulate the earth as soon as the flood was over. If Noah and his family were "BEAMED up" there would have been no one left on the earth to repopulate it. So your comparison is faulty.
The gathering of the church on the other hand, is in fulfillment of receiving a resurrected body like the Lord's, to become immortal and glorified and to be removed from his wrath. As Jesus said, "in the resurrection they are neither married nor are given in marriage, but become like the angels of heaven." Unlike Noah, the church does not have to remain on the earth to repopulate it.
hmmm maybe a thread on it?
interesting
....On the other hand, those who are believing that God is going to put his church, his bride, through his wrath....
pretrib didn't exist before them....Yeah, Margaret MacDonald, that crazy gal, of which her teachings I have never even read and therefore has had no influence whatsoever on my understanding of end-time events. People always use Margaret, Darby and Scofield as an apologetic as to the pre-trib belief in order to discredit it.
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Sure hahah start one...I am new here HAHAHAH
I hear ya...going to be a lot of unprepared very surprised people....I think it will have a big impact on the apostasy....all of the ones who think they missed the boat with crap their proverbial pants....
I think a mistake was made when the teaching became popular that the church is an entity entirely separate from Israel, the bible does not give us that picture at all. The church is the obedient of Israel to which was added the obedient of the gentiles, that is the way it started and the way it still is. There is a difference today between the ratio of Jews to gentiles, in the beginning the Jews outnumbered the gentiles but today the gentiles far outnumber the Jews. Even with that there are no doubt many more Jewish believers in Jesus Christ today then there was in the first century church. At the end of the age what is left of the nation of Israel will come into the fellowship of faith in Christ...they will come into the same body of Christ that is the church.
or just simply that God can and does deliver from/out of His wrath by many means.
we have 70AD as one example - Jesus told them to flee Jerusalem when they saw God's instrument of wrath (The Roman army) surrounding her. and the ones who believed Him did flee.
what other instances do we have where God preserves His people from His own wrath?
12 tribes, 12 apostles .Six of one a half a dozen of another? Together they make one bride.Why the division between tribes and apostles as if there were two wife's, two gospels?
or just simply that God can and does deliver from/out of His wrath by many means.
we have 70AD as one example - Jesus told them to flee Jerusalem when they saw God's instrument of wrath (The Roman army) surrounding her. and the ones who believed Him did flee.
what other instances do we have where God preserves His people from His own wrath?