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As for me, i will continue to believe HOPE means hope, exactly like the word says. Ask a child what the word HOPE means, and you will be better off believing the words of that child then you would be believing the words of the Hebrew and Greek definitions. What then? If a person in this generation reads a verse and they believe what it says, they do not take that verse to the Hebrew and Greek. But it is only when a person of this generation reads a verse they do not agree with what it says, that they go to the Hebrew and Greek to find ANOTHER meaning for the verse, thereby changing the plain simple meaning of the verse to fit into their own doctrine via the Hebrew and Greek.
Trust the Holy Ghost, not doctrines of men.
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DiscipleDave
And you seriously believe by saying "No offence" would cause none. You knew when you said it, that it was said in offence, But then Love is not a strong suit for those who do not know LOVE. If you Loved me, you would not say things like this.
God inspired the Greek use? Seriously? It is written in the Word of God to study the Greek? To study the Hebrew? Where? YOU say God inspired the Greek use, where?
i have studied Hebrew and Greek extensively, and it was but dung compared to what the Holy Spirit of Truth can teach a person. People going to the Hebrew and Greek to seek the Truth are NOT seeking the TRUTH through the Spirit, but are indeed seeking it through their own power, their own intellect. i know, that is why i did it, that is why i studied the Hebrew and Greek, DUNG, nothing but dung and a waste of time. Trying to find a way into the pasture another way, than through the gate. Learning the TRUTH of God through the Spirit of Truth is the only way to the TRUTH, trying to learn the TRUTH some other way ( Hebrew, Greek, aramaic, lost books of the Bible, other books, people, preachers, sermons, your own studies, etc,. etc .. etc) will only lead you to false doctrines, false teachings, false beliefs, etc..etc... etc...
Have you not been listening? No it is apparent you have not been hearing me. please do not give me the credit for something that is not mine to take. What i teach, i plainly say comes from Him, and not from me. Therefore what i teach is from God, and is not my theology, as if man could learn the TRUTH through his own efforts, lol. i have not revealed to anyone here my theology, nor have i spoke of it anywhere at all. What i believe is irrelevant, coming from a mere human man. The only thing that i have, is that i believe what He has told me, and believe the Word of God, and live by the Word of God. my theology is poop, nor have i given it any where at all. What i teach comes from God. Those who have God in them, will recognize the Masters teaching when they hear it, and they are a very few. So few in fact it is like one out of a thousand and two out of a hundred thousand, that is how few it will actually be. Woe to this world because of false doctrines.
Did i say Hebrew and Greek were evil? i have never said that, i studied them, and loved it. i am only saying it is not needed to come to the TRUTH, that there is a better way, and that is being taught by the Holy Spirit of TRUTH. That is the best way. The study of Hebrew and Greek has done more damage to the Word of God than it has done good. Many false doctrines come about because of people not believing a particular verse, taking it to the Hebrew and Greek to find a different meaning for the verse, altogether effectively changing the verse to mean something other that what it means, by and through the use of the Greek and Hebrew translations, and that is not of God but of satan.
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DiscipleDave
i am not of this world, even though i live in this pathetic world, i am not a part of it. i am merely passing through. Those who belong to this generation, loves to sin. Those who belong to this generation the world will love. Those who belong to this generation love life. Those who belong to this generation will not cease from their sins. Those who belong to this generation do not Love One Another. Bubble or no, i am not any of these things. i do all things to please Jesus Christ, those who believe Jesus Christ AND Love One Another, are not a part of this generation. Anyone who knowingly and willingly obeys satan (the enemy of Jesus Christ) chooses who their master is. Those who do righteousness are not a part of this generation. Those who choose to do that which is unrighteous, belong to this generation. Those who only produce good fruits are not a part of this generation, but those who produce bad fruits, is a part of this generation. Those who walk only in the light are not a part of this generation, those who walk in darkness are a part of this generation.
Have i accused anyone here of being in this generation? No i have not, i have not singled out a single person here. i have not said you are a part of this generation, i have not said anyone is a part of this generation. When i say Woe to this generation, i am not talking to YOU, or any particular person reading these posts. i am talking to the people in this generation. Now if you are convicted and feel like i am saying it to YOU personally, that is not the TRUTH, and what is that to me, if you deem yourself to fit into that category? i have not placed you there, but you have placed yourself in that category thinking i have said it to YOU. If i say Woe to this wicked generation that commits fornication and does not cease to commit that wicked sin. Is it my fault if a particular person who fornicates without ceasing thinks i am talking to him/her specifically, calling him/her a wicked generation. i have done no such thing at all, i have not singled that person out. i made a generalized statement that is indeed TRUE, but because that fornicator doesn't like the TRUTH of it, they say all manner of things against me, saying that i have said things or believe things that i have not said, nor believe.
What is it to me, if in your mind, depleted, you believe i am in a big bubble? Don't know what you mean by it, but is seems to me in the tone in which it was said by you, it's probably not a good thing.
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DiscipleDave
Have i accused anyone here of being in this generation? No i have not, i have not singled out a single person here. i have not said you are a part of this generation, i have not said anyone is a part of this generation. When i say Woe to this generation, i am not talking to YOU, or any particular person reading these posts. i am talking to the people in this generation. Now if you are convicted and feel like i am saying it to YOU personally, that is not the TRUTH, and what is that to me, if you deem yourself to fit into that category? i have not placed you there, but you have placed yourself in that category thinking i have said it to YOU. If i say Woe to this wicked generation that commits fornication and does not cease to commit that wicked sin. Is it my fault if a particular person who fornicates without ceasing thinks i am talking to him/her specifically, calling him/her a wicked generation. i have done no such thing at all, i have not singled that person out. i made a generalized statement that is indeed TRUE, but because that fornicator doesn't like the TRUTH of it, they say all manner of things against me, saying that i have said things or believe things that i have not said, nor believe.
What is it to me, if in your mind, depleted, you believe i am in a big bubble? Don't know what you mean by it, but is seems to me in the tone in which it was said by you, it's probably not a good thing.
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DiscipleDave
According to me? Where? How? Who is filling your head with these things? i have never said that is not a FACT, you say according to you, but do not even mention where i have said such a thing. Tell me, have i offended you in any way? if not, why say such things against me, saying that i do not believe what Scriptures plainly teach? Who, is telling you these things? What voices are you listening to? i have never said what you are accusing me of above, so who is telling you that i have?
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Again the voices you are listening to, are deceiving you. Who told you that i am an expert? Who told you that i can tell who has or doesn't have? i have not attacked any particular person, anywhere on these boards, if you think i have then reveal it. i have not said one particular person has, or doesn't have, if you think so, then reveal it. But i already know you won't because you can't, because i haven't done this thing that you accuse me of. i forgive you.
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DiscipleDave
if you quote everything as you say, why would i have a need to reread what i said previously, if you would have had it quoted what i said? Makes no since. If you would have quoted what i said, then there would be no need for me to ask what did i say that makes you believe that?
How do you come up with that? That i don't even read what i wrote? Are you being sarcastic?
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DiscipleDave
i 100% agree, The Complete Salvation is not until Judgement Day. i am Saved today, and it is sure, That does not mean i will endure to the end, endure until Judgment Day. Even though i would like to hope and believe that i will succeed. As long as my eyes and heart is on Jesus Christ, it is my confidence that God will help me the whole way, that God will help me to remain on that narrow and difficult path that leads to Life Everlasting. This generation thinks and believes if they are on that Path, they have already attained what is at the end of that Path, which is Life Everlasting. Life Everlasting is at the end of the path, not in the path. This is what i teach which this generation rejects. And why does this generation reject it, because they love sin. They want to believe they have already attained Salvation and nothing they do can prevent it, therefore they can continue to live in sin, and still be Saved, this is the broad and wide path that many, and i say MANY will be on, and that path is destruction. It is not destruction because of their belief in Jesus, it is a path of destruction because of their belief that they can continue to live in sin, and still go to Heaven.
Here is what Scriptures teach and this generation altogether will not believe it, nor listen to it.
Rom_6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
This generation does not understand nor believe this Scriptures, this generation claims with their mouth "Jesus is my Master, Lord, and Savior" yet they willingly obey satan and his temptations, all the while continuing to think and believe that Jesus is still their Master, altogether failing to understand this verse and many other such verses like it, all because they put their Trust in a few verses while ignoring hundreds of others verses. Blind they are, and the ditch awaits them, UNLESS, they repent of their sinning, and look to Jesus Christ for His Strength and Power against satan when he comes tempting them. But only a few will FIND this Truth, and i mean a very few.
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DiscipleDave
Why say you agree 100% when you don't?? 
And because you did not quote what i said i agree 100% to. i can't comment on that. But of a Truth, no matter what i said, if i said i agree 100%, then that is TRUE.
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DiscipleDave
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That's some really scary stuff right there. But not for the reasons the writer thinks.
Dave thinks he is a prophet and those who are familiar with his delivery, know this
and of course, God told him no one is going to listen to him
only thing is, this is the new covenant and all Christians have the Holy Spirit inside of them
in the OT, prophets were to be stoned if there words were false...even worse, what they said could come true...but the spirit behind was false
in the NT, the prophets are to speak 2 or by 3...and the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets...this really discounts these people who come along and say 'I am a prophet'...NO you are not!
now, we have or are supposed to have the spiritual gifts given as per God's will or discretion but the lone ranger prophets keep coming along because they think they are special and an exception
this, is a major deception the devil uses...
the gifts are supposed to be to build up the body of Christ...but instead we have these OT wannabee prophets who come in, drop a line & give everyone what for or if not that,then they 'forgive' when there is nothing to forgive
they are not to be feared and frankly should not even be given attention
you can never ever appease them because they are deceived
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The above proves to all that you have no clue pal and the statement reeks of ignorance....The Spirit is the TRUTH and GOD communicated to humanity DIA THE LOGOS OF GOD pal....HE INSPIRED the HEBREW and KOINE GREEK that the bible was WRITTEN IN.....and to say what you did above not only belittles God it also DENIES the INSPIRATION of the word, makes a mockery of the written word and is as evil a statement that one can ever say...by your own doctrine you condemn yourself and prove your not saved...NO ONE SAVED would say such a blasphemous thing....NO WONDER you miss the mark on a regular basis.....!
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That's some really scary stuff right there. But not for the reasons the writer thinks.
Most disregard me, because that is what God told me this generation would do. He already told me, this generation would not receive the things that He told me. i even asked Him during that conversation, why then even tell them, if you know they will not hear it? He then told me "So they will not be able to plead ignorance when they stand before ME, they will have no cloak for their sins"
So then those MOST you refer to, will hear my name again on Judgement Day when Jesus says to them "My servant DiscipleDave told you the TRUTH which he testified came from ME, and you rejected what I told him" You that are the MOST have been warned.
Is it any wander the TRUTH is rejected in a world devoid of the TRUTH. Jesus was killed for teaching the Truth. Most of the Apostles were killed for teaching the TRUTH. The Truth has no place in a world that currently belongs to satan, therefore is it any wander that MOST reject it when they hear it?
PS. 18:21.
For I have kept the ways of the LORD, and have not wickedly departed from my God.
PS 39:1.
To the chief Musician, even to Jeduthun, A Psalm of David.] I said, I will take heed to my ways,
that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.
PRO. 8:32.
Now therefore hearken unto Me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep My ways.
ISA. 55:9.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways,
and My thoughts than your thoughts.
MAL. 2:9.
Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according
as ye have not kept My ways, but have been partial in the law.
1COR. 4:17.
For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is My beloved son, and faithful in the Lord,
who shall bring you into remembrance of My ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
HEB. 3:10.
Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in heart;
and they have not known My ways.
For I have kept the ways of the LORD, and have not wickedly departed from my God.
PS 39:1.
To the chief Musician, even to Jeduthun, A Psalm of David.] I said, I will take heed to my ways,
that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.
PRO. 8:32.
Now therefore hearken unto Me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep My ways.
ISA. 55:9.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways,
and My thoughts than your thoughts.
MAL. 2:9.
Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according
as ye have not kept My ways, but have been partial in the law.
1COR. 4:17.
For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is My beloved son, and faithful in the Lord,
who shall bring you into remembrance of My ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
HEB. 3:10.
Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in heart;
and they have not known My ways.
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Let me look at your proposition from another point of view.
All I am saying is faith in Christ changes who you are, how you operate, makes you part of the
vine. Now when this happens you become a new creation, it is not words, it is a reality in your
heart.
The phrase I summarised is the measuring of this factual change. It is the foundation of our
faith that we change, that we are no longer in the world, but become part of the Kingdom of
heaven.
You jump immediately to saying one is justifying oneself apart from Christ, which is just a
complete miss-understanding both of what I am saying and the gospel.
I can only conclude this has not happened to you, and so it is meaningless. To those who walk
in this experience, it is night and day, light and darkness.
So we are not talking as equals with the same spiritual background. Our words can sound similar,
but the connection does not exist. Now there are many in the church, who go through all the
points of faith, and still this does not connect, so it is no surprise.
All I am saying is faith in Christ changes who you are, how you operate, makes you part of the
vine. Now when this happens you become a new creation, it is not words, it is a reality in your
heart.
The phrase I summarised is the measuring of this factual change. It is the foundation of our
faith that we change, that we are no longer in the world, but become part of the Kingdom of
heaven.
You jump immediately to saying one is justifying oneself apart from Christ, which is just a
complete miss-understanding both of what I am saying and the gospel.
I can only conclude this has not happened to you, and so it is meaningless. To those who walk
in this experience, it is night and day, light and darkness.
So we are not talking as equals with the same spiritual background. Our words can sound similar,
but the connection does not exist. Now there are many in the church, who go through all the
points of faith, and still this does not connect, so it is no surprise.
I can just as easily ramble about your statement as you have mine....My statement is biblical and no where have I ever indicated that there is not a change that takes place....a NEW CREATION in Christ Jesus.....and I also see the "stuff" you write and Salvation is a once for all step, that cannot be lost or taken. How we live has no bearing on that eternal state, nor can it be facilitated by faithful service or a lack thereof.......
Our daily SANCTIFICATION in our lives is a process that can be embellished by faithful service, study, prayer and obedience to the word.....but it does not add to our salvation, keep us saved and or help us attain that which we have already been given FREELY based upon grace, mercy and faith!
Um, no DiscipleDave, the events you described never happened. The judgment day of Christ is not intended to vindicate one named 'DiscipleDave'.
You need to get yourself under the authority of a local church, not merely attend, but get under the authority of a pastor and sound doctrine, no matter how much you may claim that you are. I certainly hope you will, sir, but as for now you're out on a limb and this is apparent by all the things you're saying in this thread. Everything you say points to you and not to Christ, and you will not see it. It's very saddening to behold.
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