The easy way to spot a false grace message

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What do I say you believe that you are so keen to deny?

Now my friend. Do you say you are saved through faith in Christ and His cross?
Do you believe I am adding legalism to my salvation thereby having unbelief is Jesus's work?

Now these are my basic summaried conclusions. Now I could be wrong, you may not believe
in Christ at all, and actually be a troll, but these are my conclusions. Want to agree or disagree?

I am not sure why you say you are sick of anything, because I am meek and mild. Maybe it is
because the truth and reality is something you cannot face, and you really badly want to crush
me, lol. Never a good place to be.
Like I said, Keep it up.. And you will be reported.

Clean slate..


You are not so low that you do not know what I am talking about. If you are. You have more problems that I thought.
 

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Do you understand English.....? All I did was relate a story from my youth........and I do not recall directing that statement to you PETER.....I do not recall saying I wanted to play any card pal

Shame on you for being a human! Hey man, I remember when I was a kid, some dude tried to steal my bike when I came out of the store, so I horse collared him off of it and road away. :)

Of course, neither you nor I were virgin born and super spiritual at 10 years old or whatever. Obviously some others were, ahem. :rolleyes:Probably glowed at night too, LOL!!!!
 
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EG - just in case you missed, here are my two simple straightforward, specially prepared
for you questions.

Do you say you are saved through faith in Christ and His cross?
Do you believe I am adding legalism to my salvation thereby having unbelief is Jesus's work?

Now my analytical brain suggests you will not answer either of them, because it will resolve
this impasse and you will invent some other strategy...

Ok MI6, will you put 007 on the case and make it urgent, the threat is code red, liable for
high laughter and banter, what old fellow, not sure the poor fellow is up to it, no I agree
we are being too hard on the poor blighter...Ok better suspend communications, looks
like a dead end for hope of truth and reality here I fear.
 
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Like I said, Keep it up.. And you will be reported.
Clean slate..

You are not so low that you do not know what I am talking about. If you are. You have more problems that I thought.
So confusion confirmed, neither an acceptance of the truth or denial received.

Sounds like a 100% own goal. Nothing more needs to be said then, case closed.
 
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Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.
1 Peter 3:15-16

When someone is nailed in theological and faith terms they are silent.
It comes because they have no clue what to say.

Now I love Jesus and His word, and I rejoice in the Holy Spirit which He
has anointed me with. Why is it so many are now silent, or unable to make
their case, because Gods word has spoken and they cannot stand.

When Jesus did this, the hatred and bitterness turned to violence. And you know
that somewhere today some innocent believer is being pounded because this
frustration always finds its insane release, which bring glory to His people, but
sadness and real hurt to those at the sharp receiving end.

So the closer to the Lord we walk, the stronger the opposition will become, so
we need to prepare ourselves and rejoice if we are deemed privileged to suffer
like our Lord did, Amen.
 
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Shame on you for being a human! Hey man, I remember when I was a kid, some dude tried to steal my bike when I came out of the store, so I horse collared him off of it and road away. :)

Of course, neither you nor I were virgin born and super spiritual at 10 years old or whatever. Obviously some others were, ahem. :rolleyes:Probably glowed at night too, LOL!!!!

HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA now that was funny as........
 
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EG - just in case you missed, here are my two simple straightforward, specially prepared
for you questions.

Do you say you are saved through faith in Christ and His cross?
Do you believe I am adding legalism to my salvation thereby having unbelief is Jesus's work?

Now my analytical brain suggests you will not answer either of them, because it will resolve
this impasse and you will invent some other strategy...

Ok MI6, will you put 007 on the case and make it urgent, the threat is code red, liable for
high laughter and banter, what old fellow, not sure the poor fellow is up to it, no I agree
we are being too hard on the poor blighter...Ok better suspend communications, looks
like a dead end for hope of truth and reality here I fear.
YES AND YES.....it seems as such!
 
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True story

I was walking down my road, and two young guys come up to me, trying to look
intimidating. They asked if I had a lighter. I said no. They could not work out
if I had money, or was worth mugging, so they said, next time you better had.

The problem with intimidation is you have to understand your mark and is it worth
it. If it isn't you end up looking a fool. The key point is knowing the upside and
not ending up on the downside, with nothing to show for the risk and no way back.

Just reminded me of something, but I cannot quite put my finger on it, lol.
 
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YES AND YES.....it seems as such!
Thank you dcontroversal.

The reason why this helps, because we I am told something and the response is unexpected,
I see why the audience agree with the "insult" and do not see my point.

Now the next logical step is one is therefore saying faith is conditional based on a nocountering
unbelief that might arise after faith is gained or later, resulting in loss of salvation.

The logical dilemma is you cannot actually accept both positions, because they exclude each other
so we must all be saved through faith in Christ, and following Jesus is part of this faith, and not
unbelief. So all this hypothosis is just false teaching and delusion.

I know this is brutal, but then to be told I am not saved is pretty brutal also. It is why I find it ironic
that those who say those who put conditions on faith are not saved, in effect dispossess themselves.

So you see silence sometimes is a better option.
 
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I enjoy a little bantering between members but you two idiots are having an open disparaging conversation about a brother in Christ and it better stop now.
You mean the same way you've been doing PJ & ISIT for how long now..... months?

Sounds like "I can talk about your people, but you can't talk about my people.

A little hypocritical, don't ya think?
 
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Thank you dcontroversal.

The reason why this helps, because we I am told something and the response is unexpected,
I see why the audience agree with the "insult" and do not see my point.

Now the next logical step is one is therefore saying faith is conditional based on a nocountering
unbelief that might arise after faith is gained or later, resulting in loss of salvation.

The logical dilemma is you cannot actually accept both positions, because they exclude each other
so we must all be saved through faith in Christ, and following Jesus is part of this faith, and not
unbelief. So all this hypothosis is just false teaching and delusion.

I know this is brutal, but then to be told I am not saved is pretty brutal also. It is why I find it ironic
that those who say those who put conditions on faith are not saved, in effect dispossess themselves.

So you see silence sometimes is a better option.
Can you say something without rambling......?

Look...Paul said it best....Are you so foolish having begun in the spirit are you now made perfect by the flesh (works) WHO HATH BEWITCHED YOU....

Faith plus works = a false gospel with no power to save.....period!
 
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Peter. You are going to get it. Or you will be reported. It is as pain as day I am sick of trying to get you to live up to your sin, it is time we do something about it.

You slander people if you say they believe things they do not. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THEY MEAN TO YOU. if you are corrected by that person continually, AND YOU CONTINUE TO SAY IT..

You will be reported for slander.

If you want to say A BIBLE PASSAGE means something to you, that we do not agree on. That is one thing,

But when you say A PERSON BELIEVES SOMETHING they have told you OVER AND OVER they do not believe. You are in sin.
U gotta be kidding..... PJ is so low key in his statements you have to feel his wrist to see if he still has a pulse! ROFL!!
That's almost like trying to report someone that doesn't post!
 

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...story

I was walking down my road, and two young guys come up to me, trying to look
intimidating.
Met by 'two young guys' (riding Big Wheels, BTW). They looked intimidating but 'I showed 'em! LOL!!! Gotta love internet super spirituality mixed with keyboard street toughness! Those poor Huggies wearin' Big Wheels ridin' toddlers, they'll never be the same!!! LOL!!!!!! :p

[video=youtube;JRaHLgBKVqA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRaHLgBKVqA[/video]
 
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Can you say something without rambling......?

Look...Paul said it best....Are you so foolish having begun in the spirit are you now made perfect by the flesh (works) WHO HATH BEWITCHED YOU....

Faith plus works = a false gospel with no power to save.....period!
You know what you just did, don'tcha? You just told PJ that his method is working just fine. whatcha gonna do now?:p
 
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Met by 'two young guys' (riding Big Wheels, BTW). They looked intimidating but 'I showed 'em! LOL!!! Gotta love internet super spirituality mixed with keyboard street toughness! Those poor Huggies wearin' Big Wheels ridin' toddlers, they'll never be the same!!! LOL!!!!!! :p
Boy, you sure do know how to twist what somebody says! EG's been train' U good!:p
 
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