The Purpose of Baptism
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We have to be born again and we are born according to grace as perfect children of God, not perfect in our behavior but perfect in our standing for God.
Romans 6:3-11 (KJV)
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:3-11 (KJV)
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Thank you for asking this question resurrection33. Neither of these two is the answer. First, we need to understand what baptism is. There is no ceremony in a church or otherwise that is baptism. Baptism is a word meaning 'to wash'. To be baptized simply means to have your sins washed away. It is not a physical ceremony. That is why we are immediately baptized when we are born again (believe on Christ unto salvation). It is not something man does. It is something God instantly does when we are saved. You see, at the same time we believe, we are forgiven (our sins are washed away - so we are baptized). That is why the scripture says: "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." That means whoever believes and has their sins washed away shall be saved. It does not mean whoever believes and has a church ceremony that men call baptism will be saved. Washing in physical water could never save someone spiritually.
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Water baptism.
I see it in the OT When Moses was told to take Arron and his sons to the Jordan, And WASH them.
It was a way in which God was introducing to the children of Israel he was setting these men apart as priests. It did not cleans their sins, (they still had to cleans themselves if they were to enter the inner sanctuary ore do other priestly duties) It did not save them ( I know of no one who thinks ciaphis was saved, let alone many priests who rejected Gods way)
We also know a Gentile, if he or she was converting to Judaism, was to also go through a "washing" ceremony, Which would be seen as an OT form of baptism. We know this also did not cleans anyone sins, or save anyone, It was just a ceremony to introduce to people that these individuals chose to deny their gentile Gods and follow the God of Israel.
We also know. Jesus himself was baptised. The reaon John the baptist was sent to prepair the way. He was told. He whom you baptise and immediately comming out of the water, the spirit descending as a dove, is the messiah. Jesus had no sin to be washed, He was already pure. Nore did he need to be saved, He was pure.. he did it, As Moses did Arron, to be revealed to the children of Israel. This is your messiah..
Tody, Christians are all told to be batized in water, in the great commission. Jesus told the disciples to go make other disciples. and baptize THEM. Just like all the OT examples though. We know it does not wash away any sin, and does not save anyone, It is a way to be a witness, that you to are set apart for God, saved by God, and made priests unto him, also a way of oepn testimony of a person fatih and decare it to the word. Which in all OT cases was the same..
I see it in the OT When Moses was told to take Arron and his sons to the Jordan, And WASH them.
It was a way in which God was introducing to the children of Israel he was setting these men apart as priests. It did not cleans their sins, (they still had to cleans themselves if they were to enter the inner sanctuary ore do other priestly duties) It did not save them ( I know of no one who thinks ciaphis was saved, let alone many priests who rejected Gods way)
We also know a Gentile, if he or she was converting to Judaism, was to also go through a "washing" ceremony, Which would be seen as an OT form of baptism. We know this also did not cleans anyone sins, or save anyone, It was just a ceremony to introduce to people that these individuals chose to deny their gentile Gods and follow the God of Israel.
We also know. Jesus himself was baptised. The reaon John the baptist was sent to prepair the way. He was told. He whom you baptise and immediately comming out of the water, the spirit descending as a dove, is the messiah. Jesus had no sin to be washed, He was already pure. Nore did he need to be saved, He was pure.. he did it, As Moses did Arron, to be revealed to the children of Israel. This is your messiah..
Tody, Christians are all told to be batized in water, in the great commission. Jesus told the disciples to go make other disciples. and baptize THEM. Just like all the OT examples though. We know it does not wash away any sin, and does not save anyone, It is a way to be a witness, that you to are set apart for God, saved by God, and made priests unto him, also a way of oepn testimony of a person fatih and decare it to the word. Which in all OT cases was the same..
Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Best example of water baptism in the bible. I'd love to see the cup or basin men can get into to be baptized. Sorry that the Holy Spirit did not have the Ethiopian eunuch speak in tongues but I guess there were not witnesses there from Jerusalem.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Best example of water baptism in the bible. I'd love to see the cup or basin men can get into to be baptized. Sorry that the Holy Spirit did not have the Ethiopian eunuch speak in tongues but I guess there were not witnesses there from Jerusalem.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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No one has ever been saved by water baptism.
It is the baptism of God (rom 6.1 cor 12) that washes us and makes us clean so we can be born again (titus 3: 5)
Water baptism is a work of righteousness. Paul says we are not saved by works of righteousness but By Gods mercy through the washing and new birth of the holy spirit.
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Rom 10: [SUP]6 [/SUP]But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’”[SUP][c][/SUP] (that is, to bring Christ down from above) [SUP]7 [/SUP]or, “‘Who will descend into the abyss?’”[SUP][d][/SUP] (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). [SUP]8 [/SUP]But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”[SUP][e][/SUP] (that is, the word of faith which we preach): [SUP]9 [/SUP]that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”[SUP][f][/SUP] [SUP]12 [/SUP]For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. [SUP]13 [/SUP]For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”[SUP][[/SUP]
1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Not exactly related to baptism.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Not exactly related to baptism.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I KNOW i will spend it in heaven. Because it is based on Gods work, Gods promise And Gods guarantee (spirit Eph)
If I do not KNOW IT. I have no faith in God. My faith is dead, and I am but a pitiful man who must work hard and pray he makes it. with no hope or assurance I ever will (ie, I am not saved at all)
If I do not KNOW IT. I have no faith in God. My faith is dead, and I am but a pitiful man who must work hard and pray he makes it. with no hope or assurance I ever will (ie, I am not saved at all)