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Favorite Trump term of the week.....

In my little golden book alternative facts = a lie....
These are true lies.

You have to understand that the Donald lives in an alternate reality, possibly more than one at the same time as the one we live in. That in itself is a true lie.

Truth.
 
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Thus far............folks have missed the REAL HUMOR of this post........I'm waiting to see if anyone picks up on it......

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Anti-Trump woman asked to leave plane. Makes comment that Trump is bad because he does not back climate change and the trump s upporter is violating her space.

[video=youtube;n8HGTmANHyU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8HGTmANHyU[/video]
 

p_rehbein

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That is a foolish statement. And about as an Anti-American statement as I have seen here on CC.

If I thought you had the intellect to actually understand how foolish your statement is, I would go through them one by one and show the advantages of each. However, your "blanket condemnation" of them reveals you lack the intellect to even be offering an opinion on them.




The programs are crap.
 

p_rehbein

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The level of foolishness required to believe these are "crap" would flounder a battleship.


Originally Posted by JesusLives

The GI Bill
Endangered Species Act
Environmental Laws

The Space Program
The Peace Corps
Americorps
The Civil Rights Movement
Earned Income Tax Credit
Family & Medical Leave Act
Consumer Product Safety Commission
Americans With Disabilities Act
Freedom of Information Act

Women's right to control their reproductive future
Allowing citizens to view their own credit records
The Internet
Balancing the federal budget
The Brady Bill
(5-day wait on handgun purchases for background checks)
Lobbying Disclosure Act
"Motor-Voter" Act
The Voting Rights Act
Unemployment Insurance
Medicare/Medicaid
Food Stamps/WIC
Social Security
Peace between Israel and Egypt
Peace between Israel and Jordan

The Department of Education
The Department of Energy
The Department of Transportation
The Department of Housing and Urban Development
Labor Laws
The Marshall Plan
Winning World War II
Food Safety Laws
Workplace Safety Laws
The Tennessee Valley Project
The Civilian Conservation Corps
The Securites and Exchange Commission
Women's Right to Vote
Universal Public Education
National Weather Service
Product Labeling Laws
Truth in Advertising Laws
Morrill Land Grant Act
Rural Electrification
Public Universities
Bank Deposit Insurance (FDIC)
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Public Broadcasting
Supporting the establishment of Israel

NATO
 

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The level of foolishness required to believe these are "crap" would flounder a battleship.


Originally Posted by JesusLives

The GI Bill
Endangered Species Act
Environmental Laws

The Space Program
The Peace Corps
Americorps
The Civil Rights Movement
Earned Income Tax Credit
Family & Medical Leave Act
Consumer Product Safety Commission
Americans With Disabilities Act
Freedom of Information Act

Women's right to control their reproductive future
Allowing citizens to view their own credit records
The Internet
Balancing the federal budget
The Brady Bill
(5-day wait on handgun purchases for background checks)
Lobbying Disclosure Act
"Motor-Voter" Act
The Voting Rights Act
Unemployment Insurance
Medicare/Medicaid
Food Stamps/WIC
Social Security
Peace between Israel and Egypt
Peace between Israel and Jordan

The Department of Education
The Department of Energy
The Department of Transportation
The Department of Housing and Urban Development
Labor Laws
The Marshall Plan
Winning World War II
Food Safety Laws
Workplace Safety Laws
The Tennessee Valley Project
The Civilian Conservation Corps
The Securites and Exchange Commission
Women's Right to Vote
Universal Public Education
National Weather Service
Product Labeling Laws
Truth in Advertising Laws
Morrill Land Grant Act
Rural Electrification
Public Universities
Bank Deposit Insurance (FDIC)
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Public Broadcasting
Supporting the establishment of Israel

NATO
Our little friend who think these programs are crap is still young yet.... Wait one day until he needs the services of one of the crap programs and he will be singing a much different tune... More like thanking God that they are there to help in his time of need. That is of course unless he is one of the 1% then they have nothing more to do with the programs than to look down on them and the poor unfortunate souls who really need them.

Yes, I already hear the keys typing to state fraud etc.... and people don't need hand outs... Before you wear your fingers out there are many people who worked hard and never thought they'd have to take part in these programs and have to swallow their pride and accept help. This Blond being one of them in recent year past... Remember you younger ones someday you too might get laid off from a job at an older age and have to accept things you never would have before... It happens.....
 
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Our little friend who think these programs are crap is still young yet.... Wait one day until he needs the services of one of the crap programs and he will be singing a much different tune... More like thanking God that they are there to help in his time of need. That is of course unless he is one of the 1% then they have nothing more to do with the programs than to look down on them and the poor unfortunate souls who really need them.

Yes, I already hear the keys typing to state fraud etc.... and people don't need hand outs... Before you wear your fingers out there are many people who worked hard and never thought they'd have to take part in these programs and have to swallow their pride and accept help. This Blond being one of them in recent year past... Remember you younger ones someday you too might get laid off from a job at an older age and have to accept things you never would have before... It happens.....
They raped our social security to pay for people who don't contribute when they can.
 

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p_rehbein; said:
The level of foolishness required to believe these are "crap" would flounder a battleship.


Originally Posted by JesusLives

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So true. Just like the Tea Party - it vehemently protested against Obama until the NOLA oil disaster. Then when he bailed out the protesters in that beleaguered city they all went home secretly thanking him for his largesse. No politician criticized Obama more than did Texas governor Rick Perry - but when Obama sent him a stimulus check Perry used it to balance his state's budget, end the state's deficit, and then he clammed up.
 

p_rehbein

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The majority of these Programs have nothing to do with Government handouts. Just saying.........many of them reach right into the core of our Constitution. I hope this person is an anomaly here on CC. I would hate to think there are those here who actually agree with his comment.



Our little friend who think these programs are crap is still young yet.... Wait one day until he needs the services of one of the crap programs and he will be singing a much different tune... More like thanking God that they are there to help in his time of need. That is of course unless he is one of the 1% then they have nothing more to do with the programs than to look down on them and the poor unfortunate souls who really need them.

Yes, I already hear the keys typing to state fraud etc.... and people don't need hand outs... Before you wear your fingers out there are many people who worked hard and never thought they'd have to take part in these programs and have to swallow their pride and accept help. This Blond being one of them in recent year past... Remember you younger ones someday you too might get laid off from a job at an older age and have to accept things you never would have before... It happens.....
 
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Our little friend who think these programs are crap is still young yet.... Wait one day until he needs the services of one of the crap programs and he will be singing a much different tune... More like thanking God that they are there to help in his time of need. That is of course unless he is one of the 1% then they have nothing more to do with the programs than to look down on them and the poor unfortunate souls who really need them.

Yes, I already hear the keys typing to state fraud etc.... and people don't need hand outs... Before you wear your fingers out there are many people who worked hard and never thought they'd have to take part in these programs and have to swallow their pride and accept help. This Blond being one of them in recent year past... Remember you younger ones someday you too might get laid off from a job at an older age and have to accept things you never would have before... It happens.....
Yeah. It's a bad situation. Americans have been corralled into over-reliance on government subsidized care and a lot of the programs put in place to care for the people are also useful to the 1% that you mentioned for whatever reason (and you're right, most of them could care less about the well-being of the 'common' man).
 

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Oh,thanks for reminding me! Another reason I have no respect for them,abortion. How can you stand for womens rights and not unborn women?!
I said this with feminism and how much of joke it is. Both give women in general a bad rep. And if you even try stating a different opinion... Forget about it.
 
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The level of foolishness required to believe these are "crap" would flounder a battleship.


Originally Posted by JesusLives

The GI Bill
Endangered Species Act
Environmental Laws

The Space Program
The Peace Corps
Americorps
The Civil Rights Movement
Earned Income Tax Credit
Family & Medical Leave Act
Consumer Product Safety Commission
Americans With Disabilities Act
Freedom of Information Act

Women's right to control their reproductive future
Allowing citizens to view their own credit records
The Internet
Balancing the federal budget
The Brady Bill
(5-day wait on handgun purchases for background checks)
Lobbying Disclosure Act
"Motor-Voter" Act
The Voting Rights Act
Unemployment Insurance
Medicare/Medicaid
Food Stamps/WIC
Social Security
Peace between Israel and Egypt
Peace between Israel and Jordan

The Department of Education
The Department of Energy
The Department of Transportation
The Department of Housing and Urban Development
Labor Laws
The Marshall Plan
Winning World War II
Food Safety Laws
Workplace Safety Laws
The Tennessee Valley Project
The Civilian Conservation Corps
The Securites and Exchange Commission
Women's Right to Vote
Universal Public Education
National Weather Service
Product Labeling Laws
Truth in Advertising Laws
Morrill Land Grant Act
Rural Electrification
Public Universities
Bank Deposit Insurance (FDIC)
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Public Broadcasting
Supporting the establishment of Israel

NATO
Many aspects of this list are detrimental in nature. And they are not great accomplishments of liberals as assumed by the person who originally posted this list, but for the most part were created in a bi-partisan manner which still does not equate to making these worthy of being accomplishments.
 
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Many aspects of this list are detrimental in nature. And they are not great accomplishments of liberals as assumed by the person who originally posted this list, but for the most part were created in a bi-partisan manner which still does not equate to making these worthy of being accomplishments.
democrats still have the same mentality they always have..."never let a good crisis go to waste". They used the manufactured crisis of the depression as a soft coup agains the constitution and liberty in general. Look for them to attempt to manufacture another financial crisis. I believe trump is 3 steps ahead of them and knows their game better than they do. Just wait til he audits the fed.
 
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democrats still have the same mentality they always have..."never let a good crisis go to waste". They used the manufactured crisis of the depression as a soft coup agains the constitution and liberty in general. Look for them to attempt to manufacture another financial crisis. I believe trump is 3 steps ahead of them and knows their game better than they do. Just wait til he audits the fed.
I agree they have the same mentality, but with a much more openly brazen attitude today.
 

p_rehbein

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Why am I not surprised that you would be one of those who would agree with that guy who called them "crap?"

I suspect that running around the woods all day, plotting the overthrow of the Government has a detrimental affect after all.

Many aspects of this list are detrimental in nature. And they are not great accomplishments of liberals as assumed by the person who originally posted this list, but for the most part were created in a bi-partisan manner which still does not equate to making these worthy of being accomplishments.
 

p_rehbein

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J.L.

As I suspected, the Ship of Fools has set sail.............but, then, it was to be expected.

:)
 

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That is a foolish statement. And about as an Anti-American statement as I have seen here on CC.

If I thought you had the intellect to actually understand how foolish your statement is, I would go through them one by one and show the advantages of each. However, your "blanket condemnation" of them reveals you lack the intellect to even be offering an opinion on them.
There is nothing more American than being able to say any legislation is crap.

Before I begin, I would like to post a list from the United States Constitution:

Article 1, Section 8


1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

2: To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

6: To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

9: To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

13: To provide and maintain a Navy;

14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And

18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

This section is all the authority that our congress has to legislate.

I'm going to pick on a few programs, laws, actions from the list of crap.

Social security.
Where from the list above does congress have authority to create it? You may need it, but some people don't want it. Why is that Anti-American?
If you will allow me, I will tell you why I don't want it, beyond my belief that congress lacked authority to create it.
If I were to sell a financial instrument constructed in the same way as social security retirement, I would be imprisoned for racketeering. Social security at it's core is a pyramid scheme. It relies on many people at the bottom to push money up to a few at the top. The problem is that the bottom is getting narrower as the top gets wider. At some point, hopefully not soon, that pyramid will be upside-down.

Motor voter act
Well, believe it or not, but voting is a state issue. Nothing in the constitution gives the congress the authority to regulate voting. And if you can't find your local registrars office, you have more problems than not voting.

Medicare/medicaid.
It comes at a huge expense to the federal budget and also, nothing in the constitution gives congress authority to create it.

Public education

No authority granted to congress to establish or regulate. It simply is not a federal issue.

I can go on and on. I can find a defect in most large federal programs as being an over reach of federal authority. The list of congressional power is above. Nothing precludes the states from serving these functions though. Check out the 10th ammendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The problem I have is that the federal government is involved in crap that the states are supposed to be doing if they wish.
 
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There is nothing more American than being able to say any legislation is crap.

Before I begin, I would like to post a list from the United States Constitution:

Article 1, Section 8


1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

2: To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

6: To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

9: To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

13: To provide and maintain a Navy;

14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And

18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

This section is all the authority that our congress has to legislate.

I'm going to pick on a few programs, laws, actions from the list of crap.

Social security.
Where from the list above does congress have authority to create it? You may need it, but some people don't want it. Why is that Anti-American?
If you will allow me, I will tell you why I don't want it, beyond my belief that congress lacked authority to create it.
If I were to sell a financial instrument constructed in the same way as social security retirement, I would be imprisoned for racketeering. Social security at it's core is a pyramid scheme. It relies on many people at the bottom to push money up to a few at the top. The problem is that the bottom is getting narrower as the top gets wider. At some point, hopefully not soon, that pyramid will be upside-down.

Motor voter act
Well, believe it or not, but voting is a state issue. Nothing in the constitution gives the congress the authority to regulate voting. And if you can't find your local registrars office, you have more problems than not voting.

Medicare/medicaid.
It comes at a huge expense to the federal budget and also, nothing in the constitution gives congress authority to create it.

Public education

No authority granted to congress to establish or regulate. It simply is not a federal issue.

I can go on and on. I can find a defect in most large federal programs as being an over reach of federal authority. The list of congressional power is above. Nothing precludes the states from serving these functions though. Check out the 10th ammendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The problem I have is that the federal government is involved in crap that the states are supposed to be doing if they wish.
Read carefully 1.8.1 The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

There's a lot of power in the noted words.
 

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Read carefully 1.8.1 The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

There's a lot of power in the noted words.
Yes read it carefully: General Welfare of the United States. Says nothing about the welfare of the people.