How to prove that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

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God said the earth is his footsool.

Maybe he likes Ottomans


 

posthuman

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This is not the way it works, and you know it!

The Flat Earth answer?

PERSPECTIVE

And, you know it!

we've been over this ad nauseum.

this is what the sun actually does:

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this is what the sun would do if it was 'perspective'
((although it would not shrink this much in reality or even get that close to the horizon owing to distance, the effect is very exaggerated for purposes of illustration. we did the math, 20 pages ago, in detail)):

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when you were faced with the truth, you put a video from your god, Eric Dubay, that says light bends downward after some unknown distance, for some unknown reason.
which is BS, and doesn't even match the geometry of a sunset anyway -- it's a hand-waving argument with zero merit that doesn't even address observation in the first place.

the facts, Gary, are that there is zero evidence the earth is flat, and planet-sized evidence that it is a globe.
and the facts, Gary, are that for several years this has been patiently explained to you, not just in this thread over the course of months, and you've made yourself willfully ignorant of the facts, choosing deception and lies over the truth.

the facts are that if a person for years continually rejects the truth, anyone who continues ignoring the fact that this person hates correction and rejects knowledge is being stupid.
that is why i am no longer acting as if you have excuse -- because you have no excuse.

and buddy, i am being patient with you even now -- believe it.
'
I have many more things to say to you, but ye cannot bear them now'

if i were to treat you like you just don't know any better, i would be the one rejecting facts.
 
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He will be even more surprised to find out that NASA has gone to great lengths to deceive even [ most of ] the people in its own organization - who believe that their work is real ( in the sense of "primary goal accomplishment"; i.e. - putting the rover on mars, for example ).

Does your cousin have [ personal ] incontrovertible proof of the existance of any satellites in space -- or, is it even remotely possible that what his work "sees" as "proof" can actually be 'faked' for his 'benefit'...?

:)
I can ask him....he will probably laugh at me tho.
 
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You are deliberately causing totally unnecessary confusion.

You are being a TROLL!
What has been established is that you are being a jerk. My respect for you is dropping by-the-post...

You will help your reputation if you will stop making the insults, insinuations, accusations, etc. -- and start answering the 'tough' questions...
Now --- would you like to discuss the topic like a mature adult physicist? Are you willing to keep your attitude in check? Are you willing to "stick to the facts" without 'mudslinging' your way through the discussion?

It sure would help make for a better discussion of the topic if you did... ;)
This is a much better way of addressing an idea put forth -- without trying to belittle the one who has put it forth.

posthuman -- "take a lesson" from PeterJens...

He is saying that the idea is stupid ( or, that it is not making any sense to him ); he did not call me stupid.

He did not call me a liar; he knows that I am simply expressing my point-of-view.

He expressed his point of view without actually attacking anyone...

He is discussing the topic - presenting the 'facts' as he sees them.

Are you getting the proper picture yet?
when you were faced with the truth, you put a video from your god, Eric Dubay, ...
Is anyone else seeing this pattern of behavior?
 
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and buddy, i am being patient with you even now -- believe it.
Prove it. Answer my question. And, although "I do not know." and / or "I don't have a clue." are acceptable answers -- I am thinking that you should be able to answer it if you are as good a physicist as you seem to claim to be and have a "full and complete" knowledge and understanding of the world we live in as you seem to claim to have.


If the Earth is a spinning ball - with equal sunlight for comparative places on the 'planet' during the cycle of the sun - why is the North Pole region so different than the South Pole region?


"Answer me that..."

If your next post is not an answer to my question, I will assume that your answer is:

"I do not know. I don't have a clue. You must be correct. The Earth cannot possibly be spherical."

:p




Can anyone answer the question?




"I dare you to do the research..." ;)



'I have many more things to say to you, but ye cannot bear them now'
I could say that to you...



:)
 
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tanakh

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Has anyone asked before why page after page of this nonsense has been written to prove or disprove something that is not relevant to anyone else apart from the people who still need to get a life.
 
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Has anyone asked before why page after page of this nonsense has been written to prove or disprove something that is not relevant to anyone else apart from the people who still need to get a life.
You really don't care about having been lied to all your life????? :confused:

What else are you being lied to about? :eek:

Do you care at all?

:rolleyes:
 

breno785au

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You really don't care about having been lied to all your life????? :confused:

What else are you being lied to about? :eek:

Do you care at all?

:rolleyes:
My life wouldn't change if I found out the earth really was flat.
 
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So Donald Trump is a flat-earther? I thought he was a flat-quiffer ...or maybe he was just sending out a cryptic message to the world.
 
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You really don't care about having been lied to all your life????? :confused:
What else are you being lied to about? :eek:
Do you care at all?
:rolleyes:
Gary. The best and simplest thing that all can see with their own eyes is the circular
eclipse of the moon by the earth.

It is impossible to fake. It has been witnessed around the world, it is only created
by the earth passing between the moon and the sun. It shows the earth is a sphere,
The sun has to be on one side of the earth and the moon on the other, which is
impossible in your models.

You define your world by your emotional convictions not facts.
You are needed to demonstrate truth does not matter to people so much as things
that confirm how they feel about the world. This compromise makes us functional
human beings, some more functional than others, so it works. It does leave us
very vulnerable to manipulation and indoctrination, which is why in the free world
we believe in a free press and open access to everything reasonable.

And I say Amen to this, long may it continue.
 

MadebyHim

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have heard the claim of some of flat earthers that no north and south exist. Well i believe God the Creator knows more about earth than anybody.
And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: Genesis 13:14.
And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. Genesis 28:14.
 

posthuman

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If the Earth is a spinning ball - with equal sunlight for comparative places on the 'planet' during the cycle of the sun - why is the North Pole region so different than the South Pole region?
comparative absence of land mass.

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why does the sun rise and set?

 
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You really don't care about having been lied to all your life????? :confused:

What else are you being lied to about? :eek:

Do you care at all?

:rolleyes:
Hi Gary,

Like Tanakh, I'd like to ask this:
WHY is it so important to prove that the earth is flat?

Is it just to prove that the govt and NASA are lying about this?
WHY would they lie about this?

I hope you answer me, I've asked this before and have never received a satisfactory reply.
I'm sorry if it's already been asked.

Fran
 

posthuman

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Gary. The best and simplest thing that all can see with their own eyes is the circular
eclipse of the moon by the earth.

It is impossible to fake. It has been witnessed around the world, it is only created
by the earth passing between the moon and the sun. It shows the earth is a sphere,
The sun has to be on one side of the earth and the moon on the other, which is
impossible in your models.
this is a very good one, but i personally think the sun and moon rising and setting is even better and easier to comprehend.

he rejects both.

the canon FEN answer to the phases of the moon is that another heavenly body exists, a 'shadow object' that orbits the earth and passes in front of the moon.
but it never blocks starlight, if it exists - and it's never been detected by any means whatsoever. it doesn't exist; that's a blatant lie.

the canon answer to why the sun rises and sets is to blatantly lie about how perspective and optics works, and that's a little easier to show is false, because proving there is no dismiss any kind of measurement or photographic evidence that disproves their deception as fake, but perspective and optics are things we all see with our own eyes all day every day.

this is how the lying spirit controlling Gary says light transmission works:


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if this were true, you could go to any parking lot, look at a car up close, and then back away from it -- from the other side of the parking lot, you would see the tires disappear, and people from far away would only be visible from the knees up.
but this is easily seen to be nonsense -- objects and the spaces between them at distance simply appear smaller with equal proportion to the distance they are viewed from, because light travels in straight paths - that is, as straight as the universe is between the thing being viewed and the observer.

put simply, if perspective worked in the way our deceived friend says it does, you could shine your flashlight around a corner just by getting further away from it.
 

posthuman

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So Donald Trump is a flat-earther? I thought he was a flat-quiffer ...or maybe he was just sending out a cryptic message to the world.
it's fake.

from a satirical site making fun of his proclivity to openly lie and the proclivity of his supporters to quickly accept obvious untruths with complete disregard for facts - it is an insult to compare Trump supporters to flat earth believers.


 

HEIsRiSen

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I'm gonna tell you right now I was under the strong delusion that the earth was flat for about a month, I had some terrible things happen to me because of all the garbage I fed my mind. If Gary has ever known the true God he will eventually have to accept that this is a lie. The other side is that he is on here intentionally trying to spread deception. The third option is that he will be looked at as a crazy man and most likely end up hospitalized. I am just glad I knew God long before I danced with the devil, I had been deceived but God still Had his grace on me.

satan wants us to think that the earth is the flat shaped center of our solar system and that everything revolves around earth. It is a stupid thought and a selfish one at that, hmm who's that sound like?