Trump’s Order Blocks Immigrants at Airports

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I do think it amusing that after all people and screamed about the massive number of executive orders Obama put out, that now they are dissatisfied that Trump is doing exactly the same thing.

Does it only count when the president is doing what you want, instead of fulfilling his promises to his voters?
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Apparently, it does only count then. Then again, this is why this guy scared me so.

Hubby just joined me on the "did we just make a huge mistake" bandwagon. The problem is we didn't. He really was the evil of two lessers. Trump was unacceptable. Hillary more so!

And I'm still seeing many Christians online (not just on this site) celebrating what God has done for the US. I'm still stuck at "What has God done except lower the boom on his wrath for this country?"

I've seen us teetering on that slippery slope. It's frightening how few have seen we are freefalling now! We've been freefalling for at least a decade, and now too many are thinking Trump is our safety line. What good is a safety line that has never been anchored?
 
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Apparently, it does only count then. Then again, this is why this guy scared me so.

Hubby just joined me on the "did we just make a huge mistake" bandwagon. The problem is we didn't. He really was the evil of two lessers. Trump was unacceptable. Hillary more so!

And I'm still seeing many Christians online (not just on this site) celebrating what God has done for the US. I'm still stuck at "What has God done except lower the boom on his wrath for this country?"

I've seen us teetering on that slippery slope. It's frightening how few have seen we are freefalling now! We've been freefalling for at least a decade, and now too many are thinking Trump is our safety line. What good is a safety line that has never been anchored?
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Maybe you are right.
 
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So if there was ban on Christians will there be a massive protest from liberals and the rest of America to fight for our rights? I highly doubt it. I never understood why the left hates Christianity so much but support Islam and Muslims to the fullest?
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It's all about the Me, huh? There isn't a ban on Christians. There isn't a ban on any religion. There is a ban, on some countries, (not even the ones that do scare us), including people from those countries who WERE LEGAL ALIENS!

Maybe you don't understand because you're too busy worrying about how it affects you, and since it doesn't, (as far as you can see), it just doesn't matter.
 
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Maybe you are right.
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Maybe she's not. Standing on the side of good looks risky and confusing in a confused and messed up world. The weirdos have been in charge for awhile. What is good looks evil and what is evil looks good etc.
 
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Did you know Trumps mum was Scottish and his dad German.
Both immigrants to the US.

I have a question, what if someone from one of the banned countries,
went to another country and gained citizenship. Syrian refugees to Germany for
example and then they migrated to the US? Would they be classified as a Syrian
immigrant or a German Immigrant?

I suppose we will have to wait and see on that one, I thought people had to jump
through hoops anyway already to get a green card?

https://www.scottishroots.com/people/donald.php
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They do. That's why I know these people were already vetted. They are "legal aliens." "Documented immigrants."
 
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Miri said:
I just wondered if anyone read the link Lynn posted.
Here are a few of the examples. On it.

On a case by case assessment, individuals need to be vetted.
But an outright blanket ban, especially where the legal status
of a person has already been established, is just plain wrong.


Internationally, confusion turned to panic as travelers found themselves
unable to board flights bound for the United States. In Dubai and Istanbul,
airport and immigration officials turned passengers away at boarding gates
and, in at least one case, ejected a family from a flight it had boarded.
Seyed Soheil Saeedi Saravi, a promising young Iranian scientist, had been
scheduled to travel in the coming days to Boston, where he had been awarded
a fellowship to study cardiovascular medicine at Harvard, according to
Thomas Michel, the professor who was to supervise the research fellowship.
But Professor Michel said the visas for the student and his wife had been
indefinitely suspended.
“This outstanding young scientist has enormous potential to make
contributions that will improve our understanding of heart disease,
and he has already been thoroughly vetted,” Professor Michel wrote
to The New York Times.


A Christian family of six from Syria said in an email to Representative
Charlie Dent, Republican of Pennsylvania, that they were being detained
on Saturday morning at Philadelphia International Airport despite having
legal paperwork, green cards and visas that had been approved


Shortly after noon on Saturday, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, an interpreter
who worked for more than a decade on behalf of the United States government
in Iraq, was released. After nearly 19 hours of detention, Mr. Darweesh began
to cry as he spoke to reporters, putting his hands behind his back and miming
handcuffs.

Human rights groups reported that legal permanent residents of the United
States who hold green cards were being stopped in foreign airports as they
sought to return from funerals, vacations or study abroad. There was
widespread condemnation of the order, from religious leaders, business
executives, academics, political leaders and others. Mr. Trump’s supporters
offered praise, calling it a necessary step on behalf of the nation’s security.
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Ah, posting the story would have worked better. (Must remember that for next time. :rolleyes:)
 
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How stupid do u have to be to believe ur gonne be kicked out unless ur illegal. Jeeez
Im glad Trump is deporting the muslims and taking in the christians. Merkel could take him as an example
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READ THE DArN ARTICLE! It's got nothing to do with deporting anyone!
 
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They do. That's why I know these people were already vetted. They are "legal aliens." "Documented immigrants."
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Have you considered what the status of the people involved in the last few.. oh ya know...night club shootings and office building murder scenes? And what their nationality and preferred religion was? Oh I know...someones gonna come along and say you have better chance of getting struck by lightning on the moon...but try telling that to all those murdered Americans families.
 
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I agree with one thing, Trump and Hillary were not exactly
prime candidates and you guys were stuck between a rock and a
hard place.

Thank God nothing surprises God.
I guess prayer is the answer.


Micah 6:8 NKJV
[8] He has shown you, O man, what is good; And what does the LORD
require of you But to do justly, To love mercy, And to walk humbly with
your God?
 
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Trump seems to me an extraordinary man.

He has done more in one week than Obama did in 400 weeks hasn't he?
 
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Demi777 said:
Hes simple. If ur legal stay. If ur illegal leave and/ or come back legally. Where is the problem with that.
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At this time, the problem is how silly you are for stating opinions based on absolutely nothing to do with what has happened.

What you're saying is like me saying Merke just made a law that all Germans must eat bratwurst. I am perfectly free to say that, but anyone is perfectly capable of noticing I'm making it up based on nothing but a name and a country.
 
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The Chinese are going nuts with him, but he is just playing by the rules of "The Art of War" .

Soon he will back down, but he is trying to secure the best deal for America that he can.
 
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Are they here legally? Then they already know they have no problem.
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Obviously, there is a problem. All those people in the article were here or coming here LEGALLY, until Trump decided he really is our current dictator and can make up his own laws. I really would be afraid if I were of Spanish or Mexican descent and living in the Southwest! He's building the damn wall too!
 
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Obviously, there is a problem. All those people in the article were here or coming here LEGALLY, until Trump decided he really is our current dictator and can make up his own laws. I really would be afraid if I were of Spanish or Mexican descent and living in the Southwest! He's building the damn wall too!
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The president has the authority to protect us from people coming across our borders.
 
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dcontroversal said:
So what...a few exceptions....it only take one with weaponized sall pox.....we are under no obligation to accept anyone into this country....
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We have obligations to accept those we already told we would accept! Yeesh!

And this is how it's done! "It doesn't inconvenience me. I have no dog in this fight. I got a guy who sees things my way only, so I won't notice when he is wrong, as long as it doesn't affect my tiny little spot in the world!"

Got it! Expected more out of Christians.
 
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Why talk about legality?

Daddy Bush by all accounts was a marksman in 1963
LBJ was a criminal who got off the hook by becoming President
Bush, excuse me, urinated all over international law when he invaded Iraq
Obama continued in the same vein, meanwhile urinating all over the constitution, and hiding the fact he was not even a legal President.

Trump is in the emergency theatre with patient USA right now...if he is actually a vet but he saves you, do you really care?
 
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The president has the authority to protect us from people coming across our borders.
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why didn't he block anyone from any countries from which terrorists have actually come from or any predominantly Muslim countries in which he has private ((read: conflict of interest)) business interests, and why did he block legal holders of green cards and visas and others who have been thoroughly vetted, some of whom have been living here for a decade or more?
 
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Obviously, there is a problem. All those people in the article were here or coming here LEGALLY, until Trump decided he really is our current dictator and can make up his own laws. I really would be afraid if I were of Spanish or Mexican descent and living in the Southwest! He's building the damn wall too!
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You are banging your head against a brick wall - a good UK saying. Lol
 
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