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Tinuviel

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#21
I remember reading a short story by Sayers. She was a Christian, I know. I don't think I ever read a Lord Wimsey. One vote for a Lord Wimsey/Harriet Vane book.
A sitting-duck vote since I probably won't be here ;)
 

Magenta

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Has anyone read Dorthy Sayers Lord Peter Wimsey mysteries with Harriet Vane? (There is like, four of them...I think??) The mysteries themselves aren't that great, but Sayers' characters are magnetic! I love the relationships between the characters and the way it all plays out. I would highly recommend them.
Dorothy Sayers sounds vaguely familiar, but I do not think I have read her... I have read very little in the murder mystery genre. It does bring to mind M.J. Trow, who took the Inspector from the Sherlock Holmes stories and turned him (LeStrade) into the main character in a late eighteen hundreds' setting that plays incredibly to popular culture in hilarious ways (they are murder mystery comedies? LOL)

In order of chronological setting:

  1. Lestrade and the Sawdust Ring (set in 1879)
  2. Lestrade and the Sign of Nine (set in 1886)
  3. Lestrade and the Ripper (set in 1888)
  4. The Adventures of Inspector Lestrade (set in 1891)
  5. Brigade: Further Adventures of Inspector Lestrade (set in 1894)
  6. Lestrade and the Dead Man's Hand (set in 1895)
  7. Lestrade and the Guardian Angel (set in 1897)
  8. Lestrade and the Hallowed House (set in 1901)
  9. Lestrade and the Gift of the Prince (set in 1903)
  10. Lestrade and the Giant Rat of Sumatra (set in 1905)
  11. Lestrade and the Mirror of Murder (set in 1906)
  12. Lestrade and the Deadly Game (set in 1908)
  13. Lestrade and the Leviathan (set in 1910)
  14. Lestrade and the Brother of Death (set in 1912)
  15. Lestrade and the Devil's Own (set in 1913)
  16. Lestrade and the Magpie (set in 1920)
  17. Lestrade and the Kiss of Horus (set in 1923)
 
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Tinuviel

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#23
Dorothy Sayers sounds vaguely familiar, but I do not think I have read her... I have read very little in the murder mystery genre. It does bring to mind M.J. Trow, who took the Inspector from the Sherlock Holmes stories and turned him (LeStrade) into the main character in a late eighteen hundreds' setting that plays incredibly to popular culture in hilarious ways (they are murder mystery comedies? LOL)

In order of chronological setting:

  1. Lestrade and the Sawdust Ring (set in 1879)
  2. Lestrade and the Sign of Nine (set in 1886)
  3. Lestrade and the Ripper (set in 1888)
  4. The Adventures of Inspector Lestrade (set in 1891)
  5. Brigade: Further Adventures of Inspector Lestrade (set in 1894)
  6. Lestrade and the Dead Man's Hand (set in 1895)
  7. Lestrade and the Guardian Angel (set in 1897)
  8. Lestrade and the Hallowed House (set in 1901)
  9. Lestrade and the Gift of the Prince (set in 1903)
  10. Lestrade and the Giant Rat of Sumatra (set in 1905)
  11. Lestrade and the Mirror of Murder (set in 1906)
  12. Lestrade and the Deadly Game (set in 1908)
  13. Lestrade and the Leviathan (set in 1910)
  14. Lestrade and the Brother of Death (set in 1912)
  15. Lestrade and the Devil's Own (set in 1913)
  16. Lestrade and the Magpie (set in 1920)
  17. Lestrade and the Kiss of Horus (set in 1923)
Sayers does not write exclusively murder mysteries, though I think the majority of them are. Never heard of M. J. Trow. They sound good :)
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Interested depending on book selections. I'll refrain from suggestions. I tend to read books that would be wholly inappropriate for CC, not so much for gratuitous sexual themes or coarse language, but more for their topic areas. I can read nearly any genre though, so if you all agree on something, I might like to participate.
 
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Galatea

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#27
Interested depending on book selections. I'll refrain from suggestions. I tend to read books that would be wholly inappropriate for CC, not so much for gratuitous sexual themes or coarse language, but more for their topic areas. I can read nearly any genre though, so if you all agree on something, I might like to participate.
So far, the nominated selections have been The Idiot by Dostoyevsky, The Vampire Lestat by Anne Rice, and a Lord Peter Wimsey mystery by Dorothy Sayers. I'll let this thread hang around a few more days in case there are any other interested parties with suggestions, and then we can vote.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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#29
So far, the nominated selections have been The Idiot by Dostoyevsky, The Vampire Lestat by Anne Rice, and a Lord Peter Wimsey mystery by Dorothy Sayers. I'll let this thread hang around a few more days in case there are any other interested parties with suggestions, and then we can vote.
I'd go in for reading The Vampire Lestat. Excellent book. Definitely deals with some themes that are worth thinking about individually and talking about in a group. Lestat is certainly a complex character and he has as many spiritual struggles throughout the series as he does adventures.
 
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Galatea

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#31
I'd go in for reading The Vampire Lestat. Excellent book. Definitely deals with some themes that are worth thinking about individually and talking about in a group. Lestat is certainly a complex character and he has as many spiritual struggles throughout the series as he does adventures.
Alright, I'll mark down your vote. Magenta suggested the book- she's read it before, but would not mind reading it again. I haven't read or seen the film. I'm not sure if GodisLove has read or seen the film.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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#32
Alright, I'll mark down your vote. Magenta suggested the book- she's read it before, but would not mind reading it again. I haven't read or seen the film. I'm not sure if GodisLove has read or seen the film.
Don't bother with the movie Interview With the Vampire. At all. Tom Cruise was NOT a good choice for Lestat. Neither was Townsend in Queen of the Damned. Lestat is a hard character to cast in a movie.

You know the old saying though - don't judge a book by it's movie.
 
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Galatea

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#33
Don't bother with the movie Interview With the Vampire. At all. Tom Cruise was NOT a good choice for Lestat. Neither was Townsend in Queen of the Damned. Lestat is a hard character to cast in a movie.

You know the old saying though - don't judge a book by it's movie.
Magenta said the same thing! I guess Cruise got cast because he was popular?
 
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Heh I remember reading the Anne Rice books when I was in 7th and 8th grade. Idk, I thought Tom Cruise was a fantastic Lestat, captured character quite well in my opinion. But wow, I can hardly believe how esteemed the Anne Rice vampires books are here considering the uh very blatant undertones of them.
 

Magenta

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Alright, I'll mark down your vote. Magenta suggested the book- she's read it before, but would not mind reading it again. I haven't read or seen the film. I'm not sure if GodisLove has read or seen the film.
Please don't watch the movie :D It truly does little if any justice to the book. I am ready to read any of this series again. It has been quite a few years since any last reading of them. As I said, Lestat could stand on its own, but the whole series is fabulous, building up as it does to Memnoc the Devil. Anne Rice pretty much single-handedly completely reenvisioned the legend of the vampire, resurrecting it from the shrouded myths that had buried it in repeated tired tellings, and giving it a whole new life of modern parlance and audiences even while digging into history and playing adroitly to mystery. Unfortunately that has been run with to give us such things as True Blood haha, but even those books were humorous (I read a few of them when my daughter had been gifted them by a friend of hers), though they were nothing comparable to the depth of Anne's story telling and writing.
 

Magenta

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Heh I remember reading the Anne Rice books when I was in 7th and 8th grade. Idk, I thought Tom Cruise was a fantastic Lestat, captured character quite well in my opinion. But wow, I can hardly believe how esteemed the Anne Rice vampires books are here considering the uh very blatant undertones of them.
There is a very strong theological theme to these books...
 
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Galatea

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#37
Heh I remember reading the Anne Rice books when I was in 7th and 8th grade. Idk, I thought Tom Cruise was a fantastic Lestat, captured character quite well in my opinion. But wow, I can hardly believe how esteemed the Anne Rice vampires books are here considering the uh very blatant undertones of them.
I think Anne Rice is a Christian? So, although her books are dealing with vampires, there may be a Christian morality to them. In LOTR, there are wizards and goblins- all sorts of mythological creatures, yet the Christian ethic is there. The same is true with the Narnia series- The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe is clearly Christian allegory- yet there are satyrs and centaurs, witches and dwarves.
 

Magenta

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I think Anne Rice is a Christian? So, although her books are dealing with vampires, there may be a Christian morality to them. In LOTR, there are wizards and goblins- all sorts of mythological creatures, yet the Christian ethic is there. The same is true with the Narnia series- The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe is clearly Christian allegory- yet there are satyrs and centaurs, witches and dwarves.
Anne Rice is a disaffected Roman Catholic, who abhors what Christianity stands for because she looks too much at the people and not enough at Christ. She works this anomaly quite well into her fiction.
 
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There is a very strong theological theme to these books...
Oh that's not at all what I was meaning heheheheheh. Though on that point makes me wonder if the Episcopal would condone Louis and Lestat's how we shall say lifestyle heheheheh.
 

Magenta

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Oh that's not at all what I was meaning heheheheheh. Though on that point makes me wonder if the Episcopal would condone Louis and Lestat's how we shall say lifestyle heheheheh.
Oh yes they were lovers, but a vampire is stripped of all bodily functions and is therefore incapable of performing sexually, so the love they share is... spiritual in essence :D