Book Club

[Chesediel]

Oh yes they were lovers but a vampire is stripped of all bodily functions and is therefore incapable of performing sexually, so the love they share is... spiritual in essence

Lol idk about that. Domestic abuse very common trait of two men that share a coffin lol. I reckon being burnt alive (or undead whatever) fits that pretty well too.

 

[Magenta]

Lol idk about that. Domestic abuse very common trait of two men that share a coffin lol. I reckon being burnt alive (or undead whatever) fits that pretty well too.

They did not share a coffin. LOL. Let us say no more lest we give away too much of the story

 

[Galatea]

Oh yes they were lovers, but a vampire is stripped of all bodily functions and is therefore incapable of performing sexually, so the love they share is... spiritual in essence

I don't know if I really want to read about homosexual vampires, no offense. Even if it isn't physical. I hope that doesn't offend you. We still could read The Idiot or one of the Peter Wimsey novels.

 

[Chesediel]

I don't know if I really want to read about homosexual vampires, no offense. Even if it isn't physical. I hope that doesn't offend you. We still could read The Idiot or one of the Peter Wimsey novels.

Well in fairness The Vampire Lestat novel is more of an Oedipus Complex.

 

[Magenta]

I don't know if I really want to read about homosexual vampires, no offense. Even if it isn't physical. I hope that doesn't offend you. We still could read The Idiot or one of the Peter Wimsey novels.

I would not say they were homosexual any more than David and Jonathan were.

 

[Galatea]

Well in fairness The Vampire Lestat novel is more of an Oedipus Complex.

That doesn't make it better, you know.

 

[Galatea]

I would not say they were homosexual any more than David and Jonathan were.

I don't consider David and Jonathan to be spiritual lovers, though. Brothers, yes.

 

[Magenta]

I don't consider David and Jonathan to be spiritual lovers, though. Brothers, yes.

They loved each other, that is all. Deeply. There is a spiritual quality to that, to be sure

 

[Galatea]

They loved each other, that is all. Deeply.

I just read the blurb about Lestat, and it said he had a lover named Nicholas. I know I am old fashioned, but I don't know that I care to read it. Someone once told me that I came out of the 1950s, and I said it would be more accurate to say that I came out of the 1850s. I am THAT old fashioned.

 

[Chesediel]

I would not say they were homosexual any more than David and Jonathan were.

Lol I would definitely disagree. It's kinda obvious if you read both those books.

 

[Chesediel]

That doesn't make it better, you know.

Oh I definitely know.

 

[Magenta]

Lol I would definitely disagree. It's kinda obvious if you read both those books.

Admittedly it has been a long time. I do not mean to misrepresent anything. It is the depth of Lestat's suffering that was really impressed upon me, in his torturous misgivings of being what he was and believing himself accursed of God and therefore beyond redemption due to no fault of his own, since he begged to be spared the inevitable fate that was forced upon him against his will, and even later did what he could to subvert it. Add to that Anne's incredible tale telling. She is a masterful writer.

 

[Chesediel]

Admittedly it has been a long time. I do not mean to misrepresent anything. It is the depth of Lestat's suffering that was really impressed upon me, in his torturous misgivings of being what he was and believing himself accursed of God and therefore beyond redemption due to no fault of his own, since he begged to be spared the inevitable fate that was forced upon him against his will, and even later did what he could to subvert it. Add to that Anne's incredible tale telling. She is a masterful writer.

I agree, and Lestat was my favorite character in the series too. However like forrealz, that is just more to them undertones. Think about it.

 

[Chesediel]

So I suppose there's probably no chance in convincing ya'll to instead read some super high end literature?

A small list I would recommend:

L'Mort D'Arthur by Sir Tomas Mallory
The Histories by Herodotus
The Odyssey by Homer
1001 Nights (also called Arabian Nights) by Scheherazad
Romance of the Three Kingdoms by Luo Guanzhong


All these are fantastic high literature that have greatly influenced some of the most famous kings and unknown commoners alike. They bear record to and also left an indelible mark upon the races and cultures which though transformed by time are still present with us today. To understand any one of these ancient fantasies is a key that opens up all the secret subconscious machinations of the minds still held in vestige of the modern cultures about which they are written.

 

[Galatea]

So I suppose there's probably no chance in convincing ya'll to instead read some super high end literature?

A small list I would recommend:

L'Mort D'Arthur by Sir Tomas Mallory
The Histories by Herodotus
The Odyssey by Homer
1001 Nights (also called Arabian Nights) by Scheherazad
Romance of the Three Kingdoms by Luo Guanzhong


All these are fantastic high literature that have greatly influenced some of the most famous kings and unknown commoners alike. They bear record to and also left an indelible mark upon the races and cultures which though transformed by time are still present with us today. To understand any one of these ancient fantasies is a key that opens up all the secret subconscious machinations of the minds still held in vestige of the modern cultures about which they are written.

I'll put them on the list. Someone might vote for them. I read L'Mort D'Arthur and The Odyssey years ago, but wouldn't mind reading them again.

I don't know that we are all subconsciously still worried about upholding chivalry, like in L'Mort D'Arthur, but there could be worse things than chivalry working on our subconscious minds.

 

[Chesediel]

I'll put them on the list. Someone might vote for them. I read L'Mort D'Arthur and The Odyssey years ago, but wouldn't mind reading them again.

I don't know that we are all subconsciously still worried about upholding chivalry, like in L'Mort D'Arthur, but there could be worse things than chivalry working on our subconscious minds.

Oh but The Death of Arthur is not just about chivalry, but also its lack thereof and its failings. The key to Britain's peculiar thinking and also all their spawn, of which America is one. All the triggers implanted into the Brits long ago waiting to be pulled by those that know. The Jerry Springer Show of our ancient forefathers and their sordid love triangles.

Also has the added benefit of being perhaps one of the oldest Christian fanfics in history, and of that short list, the only one.

Also wow you're the only person I ever met on or offline that has read it also. A woman after my own heart. Now I see why we get along so well.

 

[Galatea]

Oh but The Death of Arthur is not just about chivalry, but also its lack thereof and its failings. The key to Britain's peculiar thinking and also all their spawn, of which America is one. All the triggers implanted into the Brits long ago waiting to be pulled by those that know. The Jerry Springer Show of our ancient forefathers and their sordid love triangles.

Also has the added benefit of being perhaps one of the oldest Christian fanfics in history, and of that short list, the only one.

Also wow you're the only person I ever met on or offline that has read it also. A woman after my own heart. Now I see why we get along so well.

So, you're saying if ISIS wants to take down Great Britain and the USA, Australia and Canada- all they need to do is read Malory to find out how we "tick"?

You just haven't met that many people, that's all. I only just talked to you today, so I think it is a bit previous to say we get along so well. Give me a little time, and I will probably alienate you with some snarky remark.

 

[Chesediel]

So, you're saying if ISIS wants to take down Great Britain and the USA, Australia and Canada- all they need to do is read Malory to find out how we "tick"?

You just haven't met that many people, that's all. I only just talked to you today, so I think it is a bit previous to say we get along so well. Give me a little time, and I will probably alienate you with some snarky remark.

Yea, that be fairly smart of them, but it's extremely haram and absolutely forbidden for them to imbibe Western culture. So I guess they simply can't or else they'd have to cut each other's heads off for apostasy.

Of course we could always mentally retaliate and have an advantage here in reading 1001 Nights and seeing how absolutely superstitious they are about the djinn, sihr, and women.

Heheheh, you are relatively new to me but this isn't the first time we met. I can understand if you'd prefer to read vampire books seeing as you are an 83 year old nosferatu. Though if we go that route I do opine we must go to the very basics of Bram Stoker's Dracula.

 

[Galatea]

Yea, that be fairly smart of them, but it's extremely haram and absolutely forbidden for them to imbibe Western culture. So I guess they simply can't or else they'd have to cut each other's heads off for apostasy.

Of course we could always mentally retaliate and have an advantage here in reading 1001 Nights and seeing how absolutely superstitious they are about the djinn, sihr, and women.

Heheheh, you are relatively new to me but this isn't the first time we met. I can understand if you'd prefer to read vampire books seeing as you are an 83 year old nosferatu. Though if we go that route I do opine we must go to the very basics of Bram Stoker's Dracula.

And yet, Saddam Hussein had all those murals in his palace. But I suppose it was different since he was Sunni.

I suppose we could simply air drop a lot of old lamps and the ISIS soldiers would be in a flurry to find a djinn, frantically rubbing lamps, thus leaving them vulnerable to attack. All inspired by The Arabian Nights. The pen is truly mightier than the sword.

I remember you, you made quite an impression. I seem to remember that your favorite color is orange. I'll put your nominations down, and I hope you stay out of trouble long enough to stick around and participate in reading and discussing whichever book we decide to read.

 

[Ariel82]

Make a thread with a poll of books to vote on?