BEHOLD, THE BRIDEGROOM COMETH

abcdef · Jan 29, 2017

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Jesus will come for the Pentecost kingdom 3 1/2 days after Jerusalem falls to Iran and it's allies.

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This is based on 1 Cor 15:23-28, 23-24,

1. 1st resurrection.....Jesus and all the OT saints

The OT saints are seen with Jesus at the writing of the Revelation.

2. 2nd resurrection....Jesus comes for the Pentecost Kingdom.

The dead rise, we meet Him in the air.

3. The end....of the resurrections and this planet. Fire from heaven Rev 20, last judgement.

4. Death destroyed.....As shown in Rev 20:14-15.

5. The Kingdom is delivered up to the Father.......For the wedding.

6. Jesus submits to the Father to be all in all.

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Revelation is not one timeline.

The 7th trumpet (last), the 7th vial, and the fire from heaven in Rev 20, are all the same events.

(the 6th/7th seals show the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad, [Lk 23:28-30, 30, compared to Rev 6:12:17, 16])

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We are at the end of Revelation, not the beginning.

The events that are taking place in the Middle East are leading to the fall of Jerusalem to Iran (Kings of the East) and their allies (Russia, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Turkey, etc, it's a long list).

This is shown in Rev 20:2, as the dragon (Rome, Rev 12:3), deceiving Magog to surround Jerusalem. Also see Rev 16:12-16.

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As time goes by,

The situation will become clearer, if you have not realized it yet.

Jerusalem is going to fall to Iran.

3 1/2 days later will be the resurrection and the end of this planet.

When the resurrection takes place, if you are still here,

you will be killed by the fire from heaven.

There won't be any 2nd chances.

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Blain · Jan 29, 2017

You know predictions like this are very dangerous

Adstar · Jan 29, 2017

abcdef said:

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Jesus will come for the Pentecost kingdom 3 1/2 days after Jerusalem falls to Iran and it's allies.

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This is based on 1 Cor 15:23-28, 23-24,

1. 1st resurrection.....Jesus and all the OT saints

The OT saints are seen with Jesus at the writing of the Revelation.

2. 2nd resurrection....Jesus comes for the Pentecost Kingdom.

The dead rise, we meet Him in the air.

3. The end....of the resurrections and this planet. Fire from heaven Rev 20, last judgement.

4. Death destroyed.....As shown in Rev 20:14-15.

5. The Kingdom is delivered up to the Father.......For the wedding.

6. Jesus submits to the Father to be all in all.

----------

Revelation is not one timeline.

The 7th trumpet (last), the 7th vial, and the fire from heaven in Rev 20, are all the same events.

(the 6th/7th seals show the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad, [Lk 23:28-30, 30, compared to Rev 6:12:17, 16])

=========================

We are at the end of Revelation, not the beginning.

The events that are taking place in the Middle East are leading to the fall of Jerusalem to Iran (Kings of the East) and their allies (Russia, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Turkey, etc, it's a long list).

This is shown in Rev 20:2, as the dragon (Rome, Rev 12:3), deceiving Magog to surround Jerusalem. Also see Rev 16:12-16.

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As time goes by,

The situation will become clearer, if you have not realized it yet.

Jerusalem is going to fall to Iran.

3 1/2 days later will be the resurrection and the end of this planet.

When the resurrection takes place, if you are still here,

you will be killed by the fire from heaven.

There won't be any 2nd chances.

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I don't think so...

abcdef · Jan 29, 2017

Blain said:

What you say is true,

But for me,

The danger is greater if I remain silent.

abcdef · Jan 29, 2017

Adstar said:

If it is possible,

It should be considered.

Blain · Jan 29, 2017

abcdef said:

A silver tongue is a silent one sometimes. You do realize that you making such a prediction and it failing will only make you seem as a false prophet right? Unless of course you are a prophet of God and know his voice predictions like this are dangerous.

abcdef · Jan 29, 2017

Blain said:

Sometimes,

But if you understood and you didn't tell anyone,

then you would be like thee man with one talent (of Holy Spirit) in Matt 25 who hid it.

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Should the one who calls that the bridegroom is coming be silent?

If you knew when the Bible said that Jesus was coming, would you be silent?

Would Noah be silent?

Yes.

If I have incorrectly understood the prophecies, I would not be the 1st to do that.

But after much discussion and listening to others,

I am more confirmed in my understanding than ever.

I fear God more than men or death.

What will the Righteous Judge Jesus do to me if I do not tell His people what He has said?

What if I don't carry out the will of my Savior?

I have no choice but to proclaim His coming.

I must proclaim that the time to enter into the covenant (the ark) is coming to an end.

The time of proclaiming the gospel of the Pentecost Kingdom is coming to an end.

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As the time draws closer, and people begin to see that Jerusalem is going to fall,

Then it will be seen that these things are coming true.

All the Pre/Post trib discussions will end, when the truth of Jerusalem's fall becomes undeniable.

Ahwatukee · Jan 30, 2017

abcdef said:

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Jesus will come for the Pentecost kingdom 3 1/2 days after Jerusalem falls to Iran and it's allies.

---------

This is based on 1 Cor 15:23-28, 23-24,

1. 1st resurrection.....Jesus and all the OT saints

The OT saints are seen with Jesus at the writing of the Revelation.

2. 2nd resurrection....Jesus comes for the Pentecost Kingdom.

The dead rise, we meet Him in the air.

3. The end....of the resurrections and this planet. Fire from heaven Rev 20, last judgement.

4. Death destroyed.....As shown in Rev 20:14-15.

5. The Kingdom is delivered up to the Father.......For the wedding.

6. Jesus submits to the Father to be all in all.

----------

Revelation is not one timeline.

The 7th trumpet (last), the 7th vial, and the fire from heaven in Rev 20, are all the same events.

(the 6th/7th seals show the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad, [Lk 23:28-30, 30, compared to Rev 6:12:17, 16])

=========================

We are at the end of Revelation, not the beginning.

The events that are taking place in the Middle East are leading to the fall of Jerusalem to Iran (Kings of the East) and their allies (Russia, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Turkey, etc, it's a long list).

This is shown in Rev 20:2, as the dragon (Rome, Rev 12:3), deceiving Magog to surround Jerusalem. Also see Rev 16:12-16.

=====================

As time goes by,

The situation will become clearer, if you have not realized it yet.

Jerusalem is going to fall to Iran.

3 1/2 days later will be the resurrection and the end of this planet.

When the resurrection takes place, if you are still here,

you will be killed by the fire from heaven.

There won't be any 2nd chances.

====================

John, don't quit your day job

Ahwatukee · Jan 30, 2017

Hello John,

Jerusalem is not going to fall! The events that are going to take place with Israel/Jerusalem are as follows:

* Whenever the event of Ezekiel 38-39, even then Israel does not fall nor do they even lift a finger, but Gog and Magog will be wiped out by God himself. Every man's sword will be against his brother.

* The antichrist is going to make a seven year agreement with Israel

* They will build their temple and begin to once again offer sacrifices and offerings

* In the middle of the seven years, the sacrifices and offerings will cease and the abomination will be set up in the temple

* Israel flees out into the wilderness where she will be cared for by God for that last 3 1/2 years

* At the end of that 3 1/2 Christ returns to the earth to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom

* The beast and the false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire

* Satan is thrown into the Abyss and remains there during the millennial period

* Thousand year reign of Christ

* Satan is let out at the end of the thousand years and gathers those people Gog and Magog who are destroyed by fire from heaven.

* Satan is thrown into the lake of fire where the beast and the false prophet will have previously been thrown into

* The Great white throne judgment take place

* Eternity ................................................................

Ahwatukee · Jan 30, 2017

abcdef said:

The danger is greater if you are adding to or taking away from the words of the prophecy in Revelation. The danger is greater if you are teaching falsely.

Blain · Jan 30, 2017

abcdef said:

You like many before have must such predictions and prophecies but how many were true? you claim this on your own understanding not God's you say that from much discussion and listening to others you have much more understanding but if such a claim is to be made it must be spoken to you by God himself not others he must be the one to place on your heart the words to say otherwise it's only your words and you cannot lean on your own understanding because you will fail only his understanding will be proven true.

The only thing the people who have made such claims before did right was almost all of them claimed it was from God not them even if it wasn't from him they knew that their words their insight their understanding would not be accepted only his

tanakh · Jan 30, 2017

abcdef said:

.

Jesus will come for the Pentecost kingdom 3 1/2 days after Jerusalem falls to Iran and it's allies.

---------

This is based on 1 Cor 15:23-28, 23-24,

1. 1st resurrection.....Jesus and all the OT saints

The OT saints are seen with Jesus at the writing of the Revelation.

2. 2nd resurrection....Jesus comes for the Pentecost Kingdom.

The dead rise, we meet Him in the air.

3. The end....of the resurrections and this planet. Fire from heaven Rev 20, last judgement.

4. Death destroyed.....As shown in Rev 20:14-15.

5. The Kingdom is delivered up to the Father.......For the wedding.

6. Jesus submits to the Father to be all in all.

----------

Revelation is not one timeline.

The 7th trumpet (last), the 7th vial, and the fire from heaven in Rev 20, are all the same events.

(the 6th/7th seals show the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad, [Lk 23:28-30, 30, compared to Rev 6:12:17, 16])

=========================

We are at the end of Revelation, not the beginning.

The events that are taking place in the Middle East are leading to the fall of Jerusalem to Iran (Kings of the East) and their allies (Russia, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Turkey, etc, it's a long list).

This is shown in Rev 20:2, as the dragon (Rome, Rev 12:3), deceiving Magog to surround Jerusalem. Also see Rev 16:12-16.

=====================

As time goes by,

The situation will become clearer, if you have not realized it yet.

Jerusalem is going to fall to Iran.

3 1/2 days later will be the resurrection and the end of this planet.

When the resurrection takes place, if you are still here,

you will be killed by the fire from heaven.

There won't be any 2nd chances.

====================

I agree that the order of events in Revelation are not in Chronological order but in the order that John saw the visions.
Those that rose with Jesus were the first fruits.
The righteous dead and living will meet Christ in the air at his return

Iran seems to be flavour of the Decade for attacking Jerusalem. It could well be one of the Countries that take part but its not set in stone. Anything could happen there.

abcdef · Jan 30, 2017

Ahwatukee said:

Brother Ahwatukee,

You are so right my brother.

But which one of us agree on every single point of prophecy?

Even pre tribs disagree on some points,

Which one of us has the complete truth?

Me? Ha Ha Ha!

But we try, and talk, and listen, and study, and learn,

it's been great talking and learning and disagreeing with you.

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But....

I am seeing now, that before our eyes, shortly, the prophecies coming true, and to an end.

Time is running out to be saved.

The reason that I am so emphatic is,

By the time Christians realize that Jerusalem has fallen and that most interpretations of the end times involving Israel's earthly kingdom could not happen,

It will be too late.

That is, the door to salvation will be closed (ten virgins).

The Holy Spirit of the gospel light was not shining in their lives, they weren't doing the Lord's work of preaching the gospel of salvation, they weren't "on fire".

The day is approaching, I cannot help but be on fire.

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Remember the day that you gave your life to Jesus?

Remember the moment when you gave Him your heart?

Remember the joy? The happiness?

You were so happy and full of God's love that you just wanted to tell everyone, spread the joy to others.

Trim your wick,

And add your oil,

Let your light, your joy, your gospel light, shine as at the beginning,

Jesus is coming, eternity is beginning.

Eternal love waits, share the joy,

abcdef · Jan 30, 2017

Blain said:

What I have to say about many texts, has already been said by many others maybe even hundreds of years ago.

It's the order and assignment of the symbols used in the prophetic language that are adjusted to understand it.

(we tend to focus on the disagreements rather that the agreements)

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The people who say that most things happened by 70 ad are mostly right, they have historical proof which I agree with.

But, they can't see the prophecies about the time after the dest. of Jerusalem, the resurrection and eternity.

The prophecies of Jesus and the Rev don't end at 70 ad.

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Pre trib puts almost all prophecies about 7 years, the mill and eternity in one time line.

Skipping the time from 33 1/2 ad until now.

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But both have truth, things that are right.

We should study to decide for ourselves,

That is all that I have done.

Except that I came to a different conclusion.

abcdef · Jan 30, 2017

tanakh said:

I agree that the order of events in Revelation are not in Chronological order but in the order that John saw the visions.
Those that rose with Jesus were the first fruits.
The righteous dead and living will meet Christ in the air at his return

Iran seems to be flavour of the Decade for attacking Jerusalem. It could well be one of the Countries that take part but its not set in stone. Anything could happen there.

Are the Kings of the East across the Euphrates River Iran?

Chester · Jan 30, 2017

abcdef said:

Question: you give some specifics here
(1) - Jerusalem will fall to Iran
(2) 3 1/2 days later the resurrection and end of the planet come
(3) anyone still here will be killed by fire from heaven

Do you have specific Scriptures that clearly teach this? If so, I would be interested in seeing them?

iamsoandso · Jan 30, 2017

There is the beginning of the bible and there is the end of the bible. There are the things between the two given by God relating to the things between the two Isaiah 46:10 , Ecclesiastes 1;9 ... Isn't it odd that one would resolve the end without the beginning if the key to the end is the beginning,?

abcdef · Jan 30, 2017

Chester said:

In the opening post I said that the Rev is not one continual timeline and that there are only 2 resurrections.

Iran is the Kings of the East across the Euphrates River from Israel.

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This is seen at the 6th trumpet of Rev 9:12-21, v 14.

The 6th vial of Rev 16:12-16, v 12.

And the forces of Magog in Rev 20:1-9

These are time line parallel events.

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The 6th trumpet is the beginning of events that lead up to the 7th/last trumpet and the 2nd/final resurrection.

It is part of the story of the little scroll which is the 7 seals and the 7 trumpets together in sequence about the natural branches and their restoration to Jerusalem.

7 seals - Rejection of the Pentecost Kingdom by the natural branches until the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad, 6th/7th seal.

1/2 hour of silence - the time between 70 ad and the Revelation.

7 trumpets - From the Revelation until the restoration of the natural branches to Jerusalem, their final genocide (2 witness are the natural branches), the resurrection, and the end of this material world, judgement Rev 11:18.

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The 6th trumpet unleashes the winds of destruction which have been held back by the good angels on the four corners of the earth Rev 7:1

They take their orders from the good angel with the seal of the living God, the angel of rising power in the East (of Israel, implied), Rev 7:2.

The power of the angel is rising because the power of the winds of destruction against Israel are rising.

This is shown to take place after the destruction of Jerusalem, 6th seal.

This would be showing that God is not through with the natural branches yet.

At the 6th trumpet the winds are loosed Rev 6:14.

The have a direction that they are headed, west, toward Jerusalem.

These armies cross the Euphrates River and head for Jerusalem.

It could be assumed that the armies of the 5th seal, 1929, that attack the natural branches and the Pentecost Kingdom, are not headed for Jerusalem because they are released with no direction, this could show that the natural branches had not been restored to Jerusalem at that time.

It is the "spirits" of the armies which are described, not the physical appearance.

Evil spirits that hate Israel and the gospel Pentecost Kingdom.

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The 6th vial Rev 16, shows the same event with more information.

It shows why these armies attack Israel and Jerusalem from across the Euphrates.

This happens after the river dries up.

The river is the people and the power of the people of that area which now is nothing, (Iraq).

They are deceived by the false prophet.

They war in the valley of Armageddon.

Israel will be wiped out, that is why the 7th vial happens, the planet earth is totally destroyed, and then men will enter the temple of God (heaven, implied), Rev 15:8.

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This is from the story of the 2 witnesses.

The story of the 2 witnesses and the 7 seals/7 trumpets are the same.

This is shown by the beast that ascends out of the abyss (5th trumpet) that kills the 2 witnesses (scroll).

The 2 witnesses are the natural branches that are restored to Jerusalem, 1967.

The resurrection that is shown, is the natural branches who have become Christians by entering the Pentecost Kingdom.

This would be the 2nd/last resurrection.

See the hail at this event, this would be showing the 7th vial and the fire from heaven Rev 20.

Jesus destroys this planet because Israel is destroyed.

The 2nd resurrection, Rev 20, takes place just before the fire from heaven.

The Pentecost Kingdom is called away, then the fire from heaven on Magog.

Then the last judgement, after which death is destroyed and then eternal heaven.

There is a lot of ground to cover,

But I hope this answers some questions,

I have to give a general time line perspective.

abcdef · Jan 30, 2017

iamsoandso said:

When this material world is gone Rev 20:11,

It will be very much like it was before creation,

Except we will be with Him, and He will be with us.

Chester · Jan 30, 2017

abcdef said:

In the opening post I said that the Rev is not one continual timeline and that there are only 2 resurrections.

Iran is the Kings of the East across the Euphrates River from Israel.

--

This is seen at the 6th trumpet of Rev 9:12-21, v 14.

The 6th vial of Rev 16:12-16, v 12.

And the forces of Magog in Rev 20:1-9

These are time line parallel events.

--

The 6th trumpet is the beginning of events that lead up to the 7th/last trumpet and the 2nd/final resurrection.

It is part of the story of the little scroll which is the 7 seals and the 7 trumpets together in sequence about the natural branches and their restoration to Jerusalem.

7 seals - Rejection of the Pentecost Kingdom by the natural branches until the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad, 6th/7th seal.

1/2 hour of silence - the time between 70 ad and the Revelation.

7 trumpets - From the Revelation until the restoration of the natural branches to Jerusalem, their final genocide (2 witness are the natural branches), the resurrection, and the end of this material world, judgement Rev 11:18.

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The 6th trumpet unleashes the winds of destruction which have been held back by the good angels on the four corners of the earth Rev 7:1

They take their orders from the good angel with the seal of the living God, the angel of rising power in the East (of Israel, implied), Rev 7:2.

The power of the angel is rising because the power of the winds of destruction against Israel are rising.

This is shown to take place after the destruction of Jerusalem, 6th seal.

This would be showing that God is not through with the natural branches yet.

At the 6th trumpet the winds are loosed Rev 6:14.

The have a direction that they are headed, west, toward Jerusalem.

These armies cross the Euphrates River and head for Jerusalem.

It could be assumed that the armies of the 5th seal, 1929, that attack the natural branches and the Pentecost Kingdom, are not headed for Jerusalem because they are released with no direction, this could show that the natural branches had not been restored to Jerusalem at that time.

It is the "spirits" of the armies which are described, not the physical appearance.

Evil spirits that hate Israel and the gospel Pentecost Kingdom.

--

The 6th vial Rev 16, shows the same event with more information.

It shows why these armies attack Israel and Jerusalem from across the Euphrates.

This happens after the river dries up.

The river is the people and the power of the people of that area which now is nothing, (Iraq).

They are deceived by the false prophet.

They war in the valley of Armageddon.

Israel will be wiped out, that is why the 7th vial happens, the planet earth is totally destroyed, and then men will enter the temple of God (heaven, implied), Rev 15:8.

--

This is from the story of the 2 witnesses.

The story of the 2 witnesses and the 7 seals/7 trumpets are the same.

This is shown by the beast that ascends out of the abyss (5th trumpet) that kills the 2 witnesses (scroll).

The 2 witnesses are the natural branches that are restored to Jerusalem, 1967.

The resurrection that is shown, is the natural branches who have become Christians by entering the Pentecost Kingdom.

This would be the 2nd/last resurrection.

See the hail at this event, this would be showing the 7th vial and the fire from heaven Rev 20.

Jesus destroys this planet because Israel is destroyed.

The 2nd resurrection, Rev 20, takes place just before the fire from heaven.

The Pentecost Kingdom is called away, then the fire from heaven on Magog.

Then the last judgement, after which death is destroyed and then eternal heaven.

There is a lot of ground to cover,

But I hope this answers some questions,

I have to give a general time line perspective.

I would disagree with your interpretation, but I am glad to see that you are basing your ideas on what the Bible says.

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