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God (the divine part of Jesus) left Him at the moment that He took on all the sins of the world.. God didn't help him, God didn't save him, God could not partake of the sin that was on Jesus at that moment. Think of how the demons all took off when Jesus was in their presence. Dark cannot dwell with light. So the light part of God, left the human dark part (sin) of Jesus.
I'd just like to point out that there have been other human tests of loyalty to God that humans have passed after sin entered the world. Job is a great example of this, Abraham, Daniel and the three Hebrews. All given tests of loyaty and passed.
So my point being that Adam and Eve could have passed the test they just didn't and all humanity has suffered because of it as sin and the suffering it brings entered the world.
So my point being that Adam and Eve could have passed the test they just didn't and all humanity has suffered because of it as sin and the suffering it brings entered the world.
I personally can't imagine how I would have felt if I had never been separated from God because I am part of Him and then I am carrying the entire sins of every human throughout the ages on my shoulders then the darkness from all that sin and God has to turn away from me and separate Himself because God and sin can't be in the same place. I'd wonder will I raise from the dead? Or will I have to be gone forever in the second death because the wages of sin is death? Will I ever see my Father again?
My Blond understanding is that Jesus didn't die on the cross because of the crucifixion, but because the weight of our sins and the thought of being forever separated from God broke his heart and that's why he died.
His bones in his legs weren't broken and that is why the soldiers pierced him in the sides with the sword to make sure he was dead....because it was common to have to break the criminals legs so they couldn't lift up to breath therefore speeding up the death process.
My Blond understanding is that Jesus didn't die on the cross because of the crucifixion, but because the weight of our sins and the thought of being forever separated from God broke his heart and that's why he died.
His bones in his legs weren't broken and that is why the soldiers pierced him in the sides with the sword to make sure he was dead....because it was common to have to break the criminals legs so they couldn't lift up to breath therefore speeding up the death process.
I would just like to add that Malachi 4: 1-3 says
1 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
Second death is forever non-existence not tormenting fire forever and ever as how can the wicked be ashes under our feet if hell is forever. The second death is death not existing anymore forever.
1 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
Second death is forever non-existence not tormenting fire forever and ever as how can the wicked be ashes under our feet if hell is forever. The second death is death not existing anymore forever.
Mark 15:
33From the sixth hour until the ninth hour darkness came over all the land.
34At the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” which means, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”…
God removed himself from the scene of the cross that is why the darkness covered the land and Jesus crying out My God, My God why have you forsaken Me?
33From the sixth hour until the ninth hour darkness came over all the land.
34At the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” which means, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”…
God removed himself from the scene of the cross that is why the darkness covered the land and Jesus crying out My God, My God why have you forsaken Me?
Yes, though there are many people who try to get around it, Jesus is the way and He says the way is narrow. People want to find any other number of other ways besides accepting the gospel message because it is foolishness to them. People like Oprah say things like they are Christian but then turn around and directly contradict what Jesus said, so they in actual fact reject Him. C.S. Lewis said in Mere Christianity:
“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”
Well, I must say your name got my attention. There is something, however, that you stated earlier. Your life got better when you stopped believing in God. The reason for this is that Satan quit attacking you. He separated you from your faith in God and isn't "sifting you like wheat" anymore...for a time at least. When you least expect it, he will rock your world and the sand you stand on will shift and open up and quick sand may be the result. Standing on a rock, satan has NO power to do anything to you except what you allow. A rock of Jesus that is...been there...done that... I do hope you'll search out truth in the scriptures for yourself. Will be praying for you nonetheless... -student
Yes and amen, thank you for adding this 
Not many here agree with us on this, but the fact of the matter is that right from the first few chapters in Genesis and pretty much all the way through the rest of the Bible, it is very clearly stated over and over again that the wages of sin is death, that only God is immortal, that we put on immortality through Christ, that those not found in Him at the end of the age, those whose names are not found in the Lamb's book of life, pass into the second death; over and over again, we are told, they shall perish. One of the most well loved Scriptures says so, too
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Word #622 in Strong's Concordance
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: apollumi
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol'-loo-mee)
Short Definition: I destroy, lose, am perishing
Definition: (a) I kill, destroy, (b) I lose, mid: I am perishing (the resultant death being viewed as certain).
HELPS Word-studies
622 apóllymi (from 575 /apó, "away from," which intensifies ollymi, "to destroy") – properly, fully destroy, cutting off entirely (note the force of the prefix, 575 /apó).
622 /apóllymi ("violently/completely perish") implies permanent (absolute) destruction, i.e. to cancel out (remove); "to die, with the implication of ruin and destruction" (L & N, 1, 23.106); cause to be lost (utterly perish) by experiencing a miserable end.
Not many here agree with us on this, but the fact of the matter is that right from the first few chapters in Genesis and pretty much all the way through the rest of the Bible, it is very clearly stated over and over again that the wages of sin is death, that only God is immortal, that we put on immortality through Christ, that those not found in Him at the end of the age, those whose names are not found in the Lamb's book of life, pass into the second death; over and over again, we are told, they shall perish. One of the most well loved Scriptures says so, too John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Word #622 in Strong's Concordance
apollumi: to destroy, destroy utterly
Original Word: ἀπόλλυμιPart of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: apollumi
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol'-loo-mee)
Short Definition: I destroy, lose, am perishing
Definition: (a) I kill, destroy, (b) I lose, mid: I am perishing (the resultant death being viewed as certain).
HELPS Word-studies
622 apóllymi (from 575 /apó, "away from," which intensifies ollymi, "to destroy") – properly, fully destroy, cutting off entirely (note the force of the prefix, 575 /apó).
622 /apóllymi ("violently/completely perish") implies permanent (absolute) destruction, i.e. to cancel out (remove); "to die, with the implication of ruin and destruction" (L & N, 1, 23.106); cause to be lost (utterly perish) by experiencing a miserable end.
[h=3]Here's the King James Version of Satan's fall.
Ezekiel Chapter 28[/h]
[SUP]13[/SUP] Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
[SUP]14[/SUP] Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
[SUP]15[/SUP] Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
[SUP]16[/SUP] By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
[SUP]17[/SUP] Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
[SUP]18[/SUP] Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
[SUP]19[/SUP] All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never [shalt] thou [be] any more.
Ezekiel Chapter 28[/h]
[SUP]13[/SUP] Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
[SUP]14[/SUP] Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
[SUP]15[/SUP] Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
[SUP]16[/SUP] By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
[SUP]17[/SUP] Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
[SUP]18[/SUP] Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
[SUP]19[/SUP] All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never [shalt] thou [be] any more.