Not By Works
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Why does security become a spiritual weapon?
Has it something to do with condemnation fear and guilt?
If the fruit of something is not joy, love and peace it is not of God.
So I wonder how apparently faith believing people end up like bombs
exploding in anger and such antagonism
Has it something to do with condemnation fear and guilt?
If the fruit of something is not joy, love and peace it is not of God.
So I wonder how apparently faith believing people end up like bombs
exploding in anger and such antagonism
Why is IN-security so important to those on the other side of the fence? How does joy, love and peace go hand in hand with fear and bondage to IN-security?
Who is exploding in anger and such antagonism? I am as cool as a cucumber. Why is IN-security so important to those on the other side of the fence? How does joy, love and peace go hand in hand with fear and bondage to IN-security?
Why is IN-security so important to those on the other side of the fence? How does joy, love and peace go hand in hand with fear and bondage to IN-security?
because of the cross.
I have free will to express this love, and the love I have empowers my walk.
But my question really is about having an open heart. Do you know what I mean?
The workers for......How many works are enough to embellish salvation...1, 5, 100?
The workers for......If you fail to work and lose salvation can you regain it back by 1 work, 5 or 100?
The workers for......So is it Jesus that saves you or your works, and if works why the need for Jesus?
The workers for......Paul said, Faith plus WORKS = a gospel that is fake, a fraud, NO POWER, double cursed
The workers for......Jesus said, Those who claim to know him and boast of works are to be cast
The workers for......Paul said, Abraham was justified before GOD by faith void of works, how can you say works add to?
The workers for......James said, BEFORE MEN our faith is seen in works...not that works save or embellish salvation
The workers for......Jude compares FALSE teachers to three men, the 1st being Cain who offered his WORKS and was rejected
The workers for......The bible said the just shall live by faith.....nothing about works
The workers for......Ephesians states we are saved by grace through faith NOT OF WORKS...workers for like to brag
The workers for......Titus teaches NOT BY WORKS of righteousness, but according to his MERCY has he saved us (past tense)
Plenteous in number will be the amount of people who boast, brag and push their works based salvation...only to find out they were wrong...JESUS saves based upon acknowledging him in faith....your works will not help you get saved, keep you saved or embellish salvation......you cannot add to what Christ has done on your behalf......good luck with your working for dogma....and good luck with boasting on your works in the day of judgment.......MANY will say.....LORD, LORD have we not done many wonderful works in your name......workers of iniquity....why....like the thief they attempted to enter by another door.....their works.......!
The workers for......If you fail to work and lose salvation can you regain it back by 1 work, 5 or 100?
The workers for......So is it Jesus that saves you or your works, and if works why the need for Jesus?
The workers for......Paul said, Faith plus WORKS = a gospel that is fake, a fraud, NO POWER, double cursed
The workers for......Jesus said, Those who claim to know him and boast of works are to be cast
The workers for......Paul said, Abraham was justified before GOD by faith void of works, how can you say works add to?
The workers for......James said, BEFORE MEN our faith is seen in works...not that works save or embellish salvation
The workers for......Jude compares FALSE teachers to three men, the 1st being Cain who offered his WORKS and was rejected
The workers for......The bible said the just shall live by faith.....nothing about works
The workers for......Ephesians states we are saved by grace through faith NOT OF WORKS...workers for like to brag
The workers for......Titus teaches NOT BY WORKS of righteousness, but according to his MERCY has he saved us (past tense)
Plenteous in number will be the amount of people who boast, brag and push their works based salvation...only to find out they were wrong...JESUS saves based upon acknowledging him in faith....your works will not help you get saved, keep you saved or embellish salvation......you cannot add to what Christ has done on your behalf......good luck with your working for dogma....and good luck with boasting on your works in the day of judgment.......MANY will say.....LORD, LORD have we not done many wonderful works in your name......workers of iniquity....why....like the thief they attempted to enter by another door.....their works.......!
How can we forgive from the heart if Christ does not dwell there?
How can we love our enemies unless we have been in their shoes?
Are we how we appear or who we are inside?
Those who follow Christ will know the answer for upon this the Kingdom is built.
You may be here thinking you know your faith, but the Lord is always deeper as we
move forward. Amen
How can we love our enemies unless we have been in their shoes?
Are we how we appear or who we are inside?
Those who follow Christ will know the answer for upon this the Kingdom is built.
You may be here thinking you know your faith, but the Lord is always deeper as we
move forward. Amen
Get born-again and Christ dwells in our hearts.
Remember we are not new evolutions. We are new creations.
Learn to walk by who you really are - by the spirit where we are joined as one with the Lord - created in righteousness and holiness and we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh to do it's desires.
If we are continually looking for evil in our hearts - then we have no concept of the new creation in Christ. We are in fact to live from our new hearts in Christ so that we don't walk by the flesh.
If we are trying to "change our hearts" we have missed the whole gospel message of what Christ has already done for us at the cross and resurrection. We died with Him and rose with Him to newness of life.
Get this wrong and we will be continually be trying to achieve what Christ has already done in us. There is a walking out of this as our minds get renewed to the truths of who we really are now in Christ - joined as one spirit with Him forever.
Religion always gets the gospel and walking by the spirit backwards and tries to achieve what has already been done by Christ alone and in effect we end up nullifying the very grace of God from operating and producing the life of Christ in and through us like it should.
We live by His grace through faith alone in all that He has already done and yes - His life in us will manifest in doing good deeds as a fruit of being in Him.
The religion of Christianity is a poor substitute for knowing the Lord Jesus Christ and His and our loving Father's love and grace towards us.
Remember we are not new evolutions. We are new creations.
Learn to walk by who you really are - by the spirit where we are joined as one with the Lord - created in righteousness and holiness and we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh to do it's desires.
If we are continually looking for evil in our hearts - then we have no concept of the new creation in Christ. We are in fact to live from our new hearts in Christ so that we don't walk by the flesh.
If we are trying to "change our hearts" we have missed the whole gospel message of what Christ has already done for us at the cross and resurrection. We died with Him and rose with Him to newness of life.
Get this wrong and we will be continually be trying to achieve what Christ has already done in us. There is a walking out of this as our minds get renewed to the truths of who we really are now in Christ - joined as one spirit with Him forever.
Religion always gets the gospel and walking by the spirit backwards and tries to achieve what has already been done by Christ alone and in effect we end up nullifying the very grace of God from operating and producing the life of Christ in and through us like it should.
We live by His grace through faith alone in all that He has already done and yes - His life in us will manifest in doing good deeds as a fruit of being in Him.
The religion of Christianity is a poor substitute for knowing the Lord Jesus Christ and His and our loving Father's love and grace towards us.
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Hi Peter,
I'm intrigued by what you say here:
two points I think need to be answered.
1. who's 'love' empowers your walk? As in the first part of the above post you say 'you walk because 'I' love'!
2.You say 'I have free will to express this love', what love as you keep saying 'I' and you seem to being saying that it is your love that empowers you!
the conclusion to 'I have free will to express this love' would mean that all men are 'empowered' to walk their own love.
A better understanding of scripture would say:
When God converts a sinner, thereby converting him into the state of grace, He free's him from his natural bondage (original sin/sin nature) under sin (Col 1:13; John 8:34,36).
And by His [God's] grace alone, enables him freely to will and to do that which is spiritually good (Phil 2:13; Rom 6:18,22).
Yet so, as that by reason of his remaining corruption, he does not perfectly, nor only, will that which is good but does also will that which is evil (sin) (Gal 5:17; Rom 7:15,18,19,21,23).
The will of man is made perfectly and immutably free to do good alone, in the state of Glory alone (Eph4:13; Heb 12:23;1 joh 3:12; jude v24). WCF.
Thats biblical.
I'm intrigued by what you say here:
two points I think need to be answered.
1. who's 'love' empowers your walk? As in the first part of the above post you say 'you walk because 'I' love'!
2.You say 'I have free will to express this love', what love as you keep saying 'I' and you seem to being saying that it is your love that empowers you!
the conclusion to 'I have free will to express this love' would mean that all men are 'empowered' to walk their own love.
A better understanding of scripture would say:
When God converts a sinner, thereby converting him into the state of grace, He free's him from his natural bondage (original sin/sin nature) under sin (Col 1:13; John 8:34,36).
And by His [God's] grace alone, enables him freely to will and to do that which is spiritually good (Phil 2:13; Rom 6:18,22).
Yet so, as that by reason of his remaining corruption, he does not perfectly, nor only, will that which is good but does also will that which is evil (sin) (Gal 5:17; Rom 7:15,18,19,21,23).
The will of man is made perfectly and immutably free to do good alone, in the state of Glory alone (Eph4:13; Heb 12:23;1 joh 3:12; jude v24). WCF.
Thats biblical.
Why did I use the word "I". Because it is easy to use religious language but it is not
personal. The love of our hearts in Christ, is Christs love. And it is Christs love that
empowers me.
But strangely people get very sensitive to how we express this.
So many talk with a closed heart, talk about Christ out there. Then there is
the reality within our hearts. Now if this reality is out there, then people talk
about Christ and not who they are inside.
So my language is one of what we experience not just external things.
If you are talking about the heart, ofcourse things refer back to oneself.
Now if one is truly scared of ones heart, then talking about the reality
within is just foreign language.
The love of Christ working in our hearts, not of us
2Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.But strangely people get very sensitive to how we express this.
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Yes the reality they are sinful as in who could know a persons own heart .One day excuses the next accuses.God is greater that our hearts .He knows the hidden intents, and can move a person by giving them a desire to do His will, drawing them closer.
I would think we talk about Christ working in us ,not of us.
We do not measure His love according to the heart of natural man. A man must be born again from .If any man has not the Spirit of Christ they do not belong to Him who alone suffered the second death in our stead.
We walk by faith, Christ's, as the same spirit of faith according as it is written the unseen, not by sight after some experience as a work we are a part of.
Things of God refer back to the author and finisher of our faith, the gift of God, not of one’s own self (heart) it is beyond repair .
2Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.But strangely people get very sensitive to how we express this.
.
Yes the reality they are sinful as in who could know a persons own heart .One day excuses the next accuses.God is greater that our hearts .He knows the hidden intents, and can move a person by giving them a desire to do His will, drawing them closer.
I would think we talk about Christ working in us ,not of us.
We do not measure His love according to the heart of natural man. A man must be born again from .If any man has not the Spirit of Christ they do not belong to Him who alone suffered the second death in our stead.
We walk by faith, Christ's, as the same spirit of faith according as it is written the unseen, not by sight after some experience as a work we are a part of.
Things of God refer back to the author and finisher of our faith, the gift of God, not of one’s own self (heart) it is beyond repair .
AMEN...the just shall live by faith.....without faith it is impossible to please God.....notice....I strangely do not see the word works tied in with that....yes indeed a saved person will have fruit after a period of growth and maturity....but it is faith and faith alone that saved that person....FAITH into JESUS and what he has done.........
How good are people at talking about who and what Jesus meant, so talking about
reality within is definitely off the table.
It is strange how people have no idea what is in their hearts yet claim to follow
the King who is about a clean and pure heart.
And if I talk about what Christ has done for me, it is wrong because I am talking
about me, the object of His love and who as every believer finds what love truly is.
It is strange that those who do not know where their heart is are so quick to
condemn those who might talk about the real fruit of the Spirit within.
reality within is definitely off the table.
It is strange how people have no idea what is in their hearts yet claim to follow
the King who is about a clean and pure heart.
And if I talk about what Christ has done for me, it is wrong because I am talking
about me, the object of His love and who as every believer finds what love truly is.
It is strange that those who do not know where their heart is are so quick to
condemn those who might talk about the real fruit of the Spirit within.