Life away from earth

[Magenta]

Hahah Like they obey God.......all the time!

No, of course they are cursed specifically because they have rebelled against God, but I see nothing nohow and nowhere that even so much as hints that angels can manifest as human beings to fulfill their own wicked evil sinful base perverted desires. Shall we move on?

I am interested in the idea of genetics being affected by the choice man made for increased knowledge. I have pondered the demons Jesus cast out and see how people today think disease and mental disorders are not attributable to demonic influence, even though it was understood to be so in the past... and I believe there to be a way of understanding demonic influence in the manner of genetics being a perversion of sorts along the same lines. I just have not read enough or studied it in depth to get any real understanding of it. Have you?

 

[Magenta]

Have you seen this video? It is quite interesting

[video=youtube;UyyjU8fzEYU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU[/video]

 

[dcontroversal]

No, of course they are cursed specifically because they have rebelled against God, but I see nothing nohow and nowhere that even so much as hints that angels can manifest as human beings to fulfill their own wicked evil sinful base perverted desires. Shall we move on?

I am interested in the idea of genetics being affected by the choice man made for increased knowledge. I have pondered the demons Jesus cast out and see how people today think disease and mental disorders are not attributable to demonic influence, even though it was understood to be so in the past... and I believe there to be a way of understanding demonic influence in the manner of genetics being a perversion of sorts along the same lines. I just have not read enough or studied it in depth to get any real understanding of it. Have you?

Sure...Genetic manipulation is just one of the many faceted attacks made by Satan and his cohorts to alter the plans of God and or hinder them.....One of the statements made about NOAH seems to indicate that he was genetically pure in his generation.....the word upright carries about 5 connotations.....

 

[MattTooFor]

You could provide a thousand such videos and none would have a word to say on what the Bible says about life on other planets, because the Bible is without a doubt 100% silent on the subject.

Well, the Bible has nothing to say about repairing your TV set either. But I still can figure it out. Not sure why you're practically seething about these straightforward testimonies and about the subject in general. Lucifer traveled from earth to God's throne...in Job 1. So there's that. Biblical evidence for inter-planetary travel of fallen angelic beings.

What is preventing people from tentatively putting 2 and 2 together, comparing biblical evidence to what we see in the world around us? Your uber-dogmatic responses are a bit odd.

 

[JustWhoIAm]

I don't care if you laugh at straight-up straightforward testimonies from various people. Knock yourself out. Lucifer DID travel from earth to wherever God's throne was located...in Job 1. So there's that.

But...people like you who can view the two video testimonies I placed on this thread, and react by snickering and scoffing...it's a strange 'disconnect'. These are real people who really witnessed something...a bizarre reptilian humanoid...and structures on the moon.

And there are hundreds of such video testimonies just with the Disclosure Project alone.

Since we know there are "fallen angelic beings" and then there are all these testimonies...why would we not, at least tentatively, put 2 and 2 together? On what do you base this dogmatic rejection? I mean...you're practically seething. What's up with that? Don't get it.

Maybe, just maybe, we're dealing with various types of aliens, at least six species documented, they say.

Maybe, as has been suggested by certain current political figures, they have different agendas concerning earth, much like the nations here on the planet itself do.

 

[JustWhoIAm]

This topic feels strange on a board such as this one, but the word of God doesn't lie. The truth is out there.

 

[Hungry]

People have some preconceived notion that all angels look the same and possess the same qualities. Angel just means messenger. The Bible claims that we might be interacting with angels regularly, without knowing it. Look how creative God is. Even if we just look at what we classify as insects, all of the varieties, shapes and sizes that He created to fulfill a purpose. Why would we assume that no angels/messengers are humanoid in nature that dwell among us. Our eyes are very limited to what we can actually see. Who's to say that outside of visible light there are not other creations existing or technology that can cloak making something that is solid appear as if it is not. My point is this: It should not surprise anybody that life may exist on another planet. When the Bible was being penned, much of this world remained a mystery. When a toddler is learning how to walk, it serves no purpose to explain to them the finer points of space rocket design. You teach them what they need to know like don't run with scissors and how to walk up and down stairs. Just because something is not in the Bible, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. As well, just because it doesn't go into the reproductive possibilities of non human beings doesn't mean that we are incompatible. If scientists today can play with DNA to produce clones and hybrids, what prevents others from doing the same thing? Guess how many civilizations have stories about the gods coming down and impregnating the women. If you guessed all of them you were right. The offspring were recorded to have special powers and became leaders. It clearly states the same thing in the Bible. Man would like to think he is smarter than he is. Most lack the capacity and comprehension for a vivid explanation of things beyond sight so why would God bring it up just to confuse everybody.

 

[dcontroversal]

My view on aliens......

a. The demons that had possessed the man begged for the right to enter the hogs
b. Satan disputed Michael over the body of Moses
c. Demons in the N.T. possessed people and manipulated their behavior

I think they need a biological suit to inhabit our realm and Satan (Lucifer) was the SUM of ALL WISDOM....I have no problem in believing that they inhabit people, work their will, genetically engineer and have planted seeds so as to lead humanity astray......I have said at least twice.....study the word chariots as applied unto the angels....Elijah being taken up and the throne of God carried by the WHEELS with 4 living creatures IN THE WHEELS.....

 

[dcontroversal]

People have some preconceived notion that all angels look the same and possess the same qualities. Angel just means messenger. The Bible claims that we might be interacting with angels regularly, without knowing it. Look how creative God is. Even if we just look at what we classify as insects, all of the varieties, shapes and sizes that He created to fulfill a purpose. Why would we assume that no angels/messengers are humanoid in nature that dwell among us. Our eyes are very limited to what we can actually see. Who's to say that outside of visible light there are not other creations existing or technology that can cloak making something that is solid appear as if it is not. My point is this: It should not surprise anybody that life may exist on another planet. When the Bible was being penned, much of this world remained a mystery. When a toddler is learning how to walk, it serves no purpose to explain to them the finer points of space rocket design. You teach them what they need to know like don't run with scissors and how to walk up and down stairs. Just because something is not in the Bible, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. As well, just because it doesn't go into the reproductive possibilities of non human beings doesn't mean that we are incompatible. If scientists today can play with DNA to produce clones and hybrids, what prevents others from doing the same thing? Guess how many civilizations have stories about the gods coming down and impregnating the women. If you guessed all of them you were right. The offspring were recorded to have special powers and became leaders. It clearly states the same thing in the Bible. Man would like to think he is smarter than he is. Most lack the capacity and comprehension for a vivid explanation of things beyond sight so why would God bring it up just to confuse everybody.

PAY attention to this one.......and I agree......the bible has clues...overlooked by most as impossible.....yet they are there.....not many....but enough to draw conclusions.......

 

[Magenta]

Well, the Bible has nothing to say about repairing your TV set either. But I still can figure it out. Not sure why you're practically seething about these straightforward testimonies and about the subject in general. Lucifer traveled from earth to God's throne...in Job 1. So there's that. Biblical evidence for inter-planetary travel of fallen angelic beings.

What is preventing people from tentatively putting 2 and 2 together, comparing biblical evidence to what we see in the world around us? Your uber-dogmatic responses are a bit odd.

Not sure why you are outright lying about my emotional condition. The Bible says nothing about life on other planets. But you cannot deal with that, either. You want to make God's throne even into a planet? Just don't try to pretend it is Scripturally correct to do so. Thanks

 

[Hungry]

Even when associating the term "unclean spirits", is this the same as demons or fallen angels? Some would believe that these are the disembodied spirits of the hybrids (angel+human). Scientifically I can wrap my head around it. It reads like a science fiction movie but you take everything into consideration its not that much of a stretch.

 

[JesusRules1]

The Bible does not say anything about life on other planets,and if there was God would not tell us,or allow us to know about it,because He has a salvation things going on and would not want people to lose faith because of it,and they sure would not be able to contact us,for it would have to be the same condition for them,in that they would be limited in what they could do,and what they can know,and see.

But I do not believe there is life on other planets,because on planet earth,although many will be saved,for the Bible says much people in heaven,there are more people that will be lost,and all the suffering that happened on earth,and I do not believe that God would want that for other life out there,unless He created them without the option to be saved,so they do not have a choice,and always do right,and when the heavens melt with fervent heat,they will be no more.

All things that were created were all for humans,mainly the man Christ Jesus,and all humans that follow Him,and when the angels were created,God had not started creation yet,and that is why the Bible says the sons of God rejoiced when God started creating,for they were witnesses to it,and angels are ministering spirits to all who shall inherit salvation,and the angels desire to look in to the salvation of the saints.

All creation is for humans,and although God loves the angels,people are His main pride and joy,and will have a higher position in heaven than that of the angels.

The heavens declare the glory of God,and it is all for humans to see,and know there is a God,which creation testifies of it.

I do not believe there is other life forms out there,for I believe it is all for humans,and if there is I do not believe that they have salvation available to them,for God would not want what goes on concerning their planet like what goes on planet earth,and if they cannot have salvation what would be the purpose of them being made if they cannot have fellowship with God,especially since God is not a God that likes to maintain a zoo type atmosphere for His amusement.

I do not believe there is other life,but it was all made for humans,and the Bible does not say there is other life forms,only the stars,sun,and moon.

The only other life forms are angels.

I believe salvation on planet earth is a one time deal,and that is enough for God to be happy with their fellowship for all eternity,for that is millions of people.

 

[Magenta]

Even when associating the term "unclean spirits", is this the same as demons or fallen angels? Some would believe that these are the disembodied spirits of the hybrids (angel+human). Scientifically I can wrap my head around it. It reads like a science fiction movie but you take everything into consideration its not that much of a stretch.

Throughout the New Testament, the term unclean spirits (akathartos in the Greek language) is mentioned over twenty times. Throughout those passages we read that unclean spirits can possess people and cause them sickness and harm (Matthew 10:1; 12:43; Mark 1:26; Luke 4:36; 6:18; Acts 5:16; 8:7), that they are searching for someone to possess if they are not currently possessing someone (Matthew 12:43), that some are more unclean or evil than others (Luke 11:26), that unclean spirits can interact with one another (Mark 5:1–20; Matthew 12:45), and that unclean spirits are under God’s authority and must submit to Him (Mark 1:27; 3:11; 5:8, 13).

An unclean spirit or demon is “unclean” in that it is wicked. Evil spirits are not only wicked themselves, but they delight in wickedness and promote wickedness in humans. They are spiritually polluted and impure, and they seek to contaminate all of God’s creation with their filth. Their foul, putrid nature is in direct contrast to the purity and incorruption of the Holy Spirit’s nature. When a person is defiled by an unclean spirit, he takes pleasure in corrupt thoughts and actions; when a person is filled with the Holy Spirit, his thoughts and actions are heavenly. https://www.gotquestions.org/unclean-spirits.html

 

[Hungry]

Throughout the New Testament, the term unclean spirits (akathartos in the Greek language) is mentioned over twenty times. Throughout those passages we read that unclean spirits can possess people and cause them sickness and harm (Matthew 10:1; 12:43; Mark 1:26; Luke 4:36; 6:18; Acts 5:16; 8:7), that they are searching for someone to possess if they are not currently possessing someone (Matthew 12:43), that some are more unclean or evil than others (Luke 11:26), that unclean spirits can interact with one another (Mark 5:1–20; Matthew 12:45), and that unclean spirits are under God’s authority and must submit to Him (Mark 1:27; 3:11; 5:8, 13).

An unclean spirit or demon is “unclean” in that it is wicked. Evil spirits are not only wicked themselves, but they delight in wickedness and promote wickedness in humans. They are spiritually polluted and impure, and they seek to contaminate all of God’s creation with their filth. Their foul, putrid nature is in direct contrast to the purity and incorruption of the Holy Spirit’s nature. When a person is defiled by an unclean spirit, he takes pleasure in corrupt thoughts and actions; when a person is filled with the Holy Spirit, his thoughts and actions are heavenly. https://www.gotquestions.org/unclean-spirits.html

Here is a thought, is it that debauchery is what makes the unclean spirit compatible with this vessel? Therefore, in order to remain in the vessel it must continue to be debaucherous. Possibly the more sinful acts the more control the spirit has. When you relate our essence or spirit to have a frequency value, it makes more sense when understanding the possibilities of communicating with God and miraculous healings. To ignore that we are in fact electric and respond predictably to different frequencies would be like shutting our eyes to how we are made susceptible to spiritual warfare.

 

[Magenta]

Here is a thought, is it that debauchery is what makes the unclean spirit compatible with this vessel? Therefore, in order to remain in the vessel it must continue to be debaucherous. Possibly the more sinful acts the more control the spirit has. When you relate our essence or spirit to have a frequency value, it makes more sense when understanding the possibilities of communicating with God and miraculous healings. To ignore that we are in fact electric and respond predictably to different frequencies would be like shutting our eyes to how we are made susceptible to spiritual warfare.

Connecting our vibrational frequency to being what makes it possible for spiritual beings to commune with us? We do live in a fallen state, and after healing people Jesus would sometimes say something like go and sin no more, exhorting the person not to return to a sinful lifestyle, and in fact warning that something even worse could befall them if they did, as with the case of the unclean spirit removed only to return with seven others even more wicked than it is, but notice it returns to take up residence in an unoccupied house, which surely a Holy Spirit filled person could not be described as. Would you agree?

 

[oldethennew]

just came into the conversation, and immediately thought of (incubus and succubus) -

over our, hubby and my lifetime, we have heard many, many stories of such...and have
discerned that many were indeed true...

 

[oldethennew]

we are told to be careful in our inter-actions with 'others', because they just might be angels...

as far as I can tell, there are (two) kinds of 'angels', (((GOOD & BAD)))...

hubby and I have encountered 'both', many, many, times!!!

 

[Hungry]

Let's use a car for example. The car comes with an operator's manual that tells the driver everything they need to know about use and maintenance. It doesn't come with a repair manual or explain the programming of the computer system. Also it doesn't explain the metallurgy of the steel and the engineering of the wheelbase. The Bible is like the operator's manual. We could go through life and never need more than that. However, if you really want to understand who and what we are and become more intimately acquainted with the designer, than a greater degree of study is required. We all know God is a masterful Creator. What we deem miraculous is what lies beyond our borders of understood technology. Our advances in science have opened our eyes to how we are created. It is marvelous yet becoming less mysterious. The Bible tells us not to sin but doesn't explain what happens when we do. I'm saying that sin and fear adjust the frequency of the vessel, as does faith and love. The Bible is clear that man is flesh and spirit. Each of us (spirit) has a specific frequency that corresponds to our vessel (DNA). It's like a remote control sharing a frequency with a specific device. There are ways to alter these frequencies that explain how the Holy Spirit can work through us (spiritual gifts) or unclean spirits can possess us. Everything is energy and vibration. Mystics are well aware about how certain meditations and potions as well certain energies and vibrations effect humans physically and spiritually. We are told to stay away from these practices for good reason.

 

[prove-all]

All of Scripture is about Jesus. He was foretold as early as Genesis three, and
through the rest of the older testaments are prophecies of His future coming,
which we now look back on, while awaiting His return at the end of this age.

Yes scripture is about Jesus fortold, but also it is about Israel.
we have very little bible about the first 2 thousand years before Abram.

Then most the bible is about the nation of Israel, and only the other nations
that come in contact with the nation, this people made by God.



Isaiah 45:11 (KJV)
Thus saith the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker,
Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning
the work of my hands command ye me.

Isaiah 17:7 (KJV)
At that day shall a man look to his Maker,
and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.

-search phrase the Holy One of Israel

Deuteronomy 32:9 (KJV)
For the Lord's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.

 

[MattTooFor]

Not sure why you are outright lying about my emotional condition.

"Outright lying"? Wow. Just making an observation. Maybe it's a misimpression.

The Bible says nothing about life on other planets. But you cannot deal with that, either. You want to make God's throne even into a planet? Just don't try to pretend it is Scripturally correct to do so. Thanks

I want to make God's throne a planet - lol?? Isn't that an "outright lie" Oh, nevermind. Anyway...if the Bible says Lucifer traveled from earth to wherever God's location was...and then back to earth again...seems like "interplanetary travel" is a fairly close fit. I wouldn't blow a gasket over it, or anything.

My goodness. What's wrong with having a scintillating conversation about these interesting matters? We live in the Information Age. We get to have a sneak peek at a breathtakingly wide range of eyewitness testimonies which we have previously never had access to. And a lot of it matches up to a biblical template.

If an eyewitness reports seeing a 7-foot reptilian humanoid walking through the corridor of an underground military facility (as we see in my above video)...what do we do with that kind of information...assuming the eyewitness seems credible (which he does, to me)? I am thinking to myself:

"Oh, this must be a fallen angelic being. The Devil manifests in a 'reptilian' form in the Bible. As a serpent in the garden and as a "dragon" later on in Scripture."

I actually tend to take the "dragon" reference literally. So, I tentatively connect the dots. I find it all very interesting. I'm not dogmatic either way.

The other video testimony I provided (the first one) is quite amazing. Structures on the moon? Wow. Why not be amazed? And again, what does it mean? Well, my biblical intuition tells me these are not put there by the holy unfallen angelic beings. The 'bad guys' have placed these structures. Why? I wouldn't know exactly.

There is substantial information from Colonel Corso (former chief aide to General MacArthur of WW2 fame) and a number of others...that the Apollo astronauts had a terrible time being harassed by ETs (or EBEs) while on the moon. That was why we have never gone back to the moon. Think about it: How easy would it have been to pack a few extra lunches and have the space shuttle slingshot to the moon for a few laps?

Colonel Corso's comments in chapter 11 of his book The Day After Roswell:

"the EBEs...tried to scare us away from the moon and their own base there more times than even I know. They buzzed our ships, interfered with our communications, and sought to threaten us by their physical presence. But we continued and persevered. Ultimately, we reached the moon and sent enough manned expeditions to explore the lunar surface...they effectively challenged the EBEs".

Pretty interesting stuff to me as a Bible student.