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Yep ther you go how come satan spotted The son of God because satan who was spirit could see spirit in man.

And how come spirit could be born in woman.. Because it could ...
 

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Giants were simply very large men. So Goliath was 'six cubits and a span', about 7'6" in height. But they were not invincible. Indeed their overlarge size resulted in weakened muscles.
Sorry that is not the case. You are thinking of people with defects and disease which creates abnormal skeletons creating health problems. Giants we have Bible and documents in history are normal beings, not a genetically flawed human. There is plenty of evidence to show that these beings were a race on thier own. The men of legend and renown. Read old mythology again, Beowulf is a prime example. It is classed as fiction as the protaganist and the creatures are considered impossible creations for evolutionists. Yet we see dragon described in Bible and men with super human abilities and strength.

Quickly we move on to the Red Indians, with their stories about the red haired blue eyed giants 20 feet tall and would chase down buffalo on foot and scoop them up in their hands.

The Smithsonian institute being exposed in court that they dumped tens of thousands of giant skeletons in the sea during early 1900s, all because they contradicted evolution.
 
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Sorry that is not the case. You are thinking of people with defects and disease which creates abnormal skeletons creating health problems. Giants we have Bible and documents in history are normal beings, not a genetically flawed human. There is plenty of evidence to show that these beings were a race on thier own. The men of legend and renown. Read old mythology again, Beowulf is a prime example. It is classed as fiction as the protaganist and the creatures are considered impossible creations for evolutionists. Yet we see dragon described in Bible and men with super human abilities and strength.

Quickly we move on to the Red Indians, with their stories about the red haired blue eyed giants 20 feet tall and would chase down buffalo on foot and scoop them up in their hands.

The Smithsonian institute being exposed in court that they dumped tens of thousands of giant skeletons in the sea during early 1900s, all because they contradicted evolution.
Exactly and the bible equates the giants to being as tall as the cedars and men were as grasshoppers in the site of these giants....they were not also handicapped men who needed crutches and canes to walk and stand but were warriors and elite men of renown....
 

Locutus

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There were gnats in the earth in those days; and also after that pesky mosquitos...and nobody's been happy since.

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Greetings JosephsDreams: By all means that is your prerogative.....keep digging and the simple truths in scripture will be revealed when diligently seeking with an honest heart. happy hunting.....be blessed always, willybob
 
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https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/who-were-the-nephilim/

Here are 4 different views:

Here is a table with a brief summary of the four popular views discussed:

Name View in short
Fallen angels view Satan and/or his fallen angels bred with human women and had offspring that were called Nephilim.

Fallen angels overtook men view
Fallen angels and/or Satan possessed men and caused them to breed with women.

Sethite view The sons of God were the godly line from Adam to Seth down to Noah, and the Nephilim were fallen children who sought after false gods.

Fallen men view Godly men (sons of God) took ungodly wives, and their descendants (Nephilim) followed after the false gods, rejected God, and fell far from God in wickedness.
More from the article:

"The author of Job was aware of the term used for angel (Kalm mal’ak), as Eliphaz the Temanite used it in Job 4:18. So, if the sons of God were referring to angels, then why not say it? It may be too much to say for sure that these two verses early in Job are referring to angels, but even so, it wouldn’t be referring to fallen ones. There are no other instances in Scripture that refer to fallen angels or demons as sons of God to verify this in Job."
 

Locutus

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I'm just wondering how this fits in with the whole schmozzle:


Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
 
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Angels don't have the power to create anything, not to mention DNA and reproductive genetics the complications of that are scientifically mind boggling and are only capabilities that God could create......Satan and his angels seek to blind your mind they don't care about human women they are spiritual beings and have no hormones that can be activated by such nonsense..Jesus said angels neither marry or are given in marriage...The ONE TIME falling away of the angels in scripture occurred 1500 years before Noah even started building the Arch, unless one erroneously perceives that there were two falling aways of the angels in scripture......The fleshly mind seeks sensationalism and signs and wonders...The word Nephilim was invented around 1870 when the craze first began in the modern era.. The bible says "nephel" plural and before that it speaks of the first one Cain who "nephal" singular...Buy the time Geneses 6 comes into play there were a plethora of fallen ones "nephal" who took wive"s" following the way of the fifth from Cain which was Lamech who was the first polygamist...

The whole bible from Geneses to Revelation is about mingling and turning away from God falling into massive apostasy....Solomon is a great example he took many foreign wives and was by the pressure of relationship seduced into following their false God's. Same story in Gen. 6. Same story with professed Organized Christianity today (Mystery Babylon the land of ecumenical confusion)...........One last note: If Hollywierd is dispensing the same nonsense as the supposed churches, that would be the first clue that one might better rethink their theology and dispense with all the sensationalism...Josephus was one of the first to bring the fable into being in the AD era, followed by Philo, both were heavy into Greek Mythology....

Was it not god Himself that placed ALL THE BLAME on mankind in Geneses 6. He said nothing about supposed fallen angelic beings....For man had CORRUPTED HIMSELF upon the whole earth saith the Lord....And every thought of His imagination was continually evil....The bottomless pit is mans imagination....For now man will be able to do all that he imagined to do Gen. 11, therefore God went down and confounded their speech............God found Abraham in Gen 12, who according to Joshua was the only man not worshiping false gods, even Abraham's father Terah served false gods...Dig deep and the scripture will be revealed to those of a pure heart who love the truth, if not God will send them strong delusion that they should believe the lie......The Nephilim Myth is sever strong delusion indeed....
 
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have you just read this scripture :rolleyes:Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
 
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First I see no scripture or common sense that would tell me that the giants were the offspring of angels and humans. There were offspring of a union of male angels with female humans and their offspring had unusual physical abilities...Hercules of the Greeks would be one of them. The giants are another issue, and that is what I am curious about. The word that is translated giants before the flood is the same word for giants for those after the flood that the people of Israel had to fight. We know that the bed of one of them was about 13 feet long and that one who fought David was almost 10 foot tall. If they were heavy muscled then they would probably weigh from 500 to 1000 pounds. The proof that the giants were not the sons of angels is that there is a record of their fathers and grandfathers...so their fathers were giants not angels. Though the ancestors of giants can be traced back a few generations yet it stops there. So if the giants came through Adam and Noah how come there is no record?
 
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First I see no scripture or common sense that would tell me that the giants were the offspring of angels and humans. There were offspring of a union of male angels with female humans and their offspring had unusual physical abilities...Hercules of the Greeks would be one of them. The giants are another issue, and that is what I am curious about. The word that is translated giants before the flood is the same word for giants for those after the flood that the people of Israel had to fight. We know that the bed of one of them was about 13 feet long and that one who fought David was almost 10 foot tall. If they were heavy muscled then they would probably weigh from 500 to 1000 pounds. The proof that the giants were not the sons of angels is that there is a record of their fathers and grandfathers...so their fathers were giants not angels. Though the ancestors of giants can be traced back a few generations yet is stops there. So if the giants came through Adam and Noah how come there is no record?
Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

The actual scripture in question in various translations. Angels?

Wait, what? Interesting.
 
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Angels don't have the power to create anything, not to mention DNA and reproductive genetics the complications of that are scientifically mind boggling and are only capabilities that God could create......Satan and his angels seek to blind your mind they don't care about human women they are spiritual beings and have no hormones that can be activated by such nonsense..Jesus said angels neither marry or are given in marriage...The ONE TIME falling away of the angels in scripture occurred 1500 years before Noah even started building the Arch, unless one erroneously perceives that there were two falling aways of the angels in scripture......The fleshly mind seeks sensationalism and signs and wonders...The word Nephilim was invented around 1870 when the craze first began in the modern era.. The bible says "nephel" plural and before that it speaks of the first one Cain who "nephal" singular...Buy the time Geneses 6 comes into play there were a plethora of fallen ones "nephal" who took wive"s" following the way of the fifth from Cain which was Lamech who was the first polygamist...

The whole bible from Geneses to Revelation is about mingling and turning away from God falling into massive apostasy....Solomon is a great example he took many foreign wives and was by the pressure of relationship seduced into following their false God's. Same story in Gen. 6. Same story with professed Organized Christianity today (Mystery Babylon the land of ecumenical confusion)...........One last note: If Hollywierd is dispensing the same nonsense as the supposed churches, that would be the first clue that one might better rethink their theology and dispense with all the sensationalism...Josephus was one of the first to bring the fable into being in the AD era, followed by Philo, both were heavy into Greek Mythology....

Was it not god Himself that placed ALL THE BLAME on mankind in Geneses 6. He said nothing about supposed fallen angelic beings....For man had CORRUPTED HIMSELF upon the whole earth saith the Lord....And every thought of His imagination was continually evil....The bottomless pit is mans imagination....For now man will be able to do all that he imagined to do Gen. 11, therefore God went down and confounded their speech............God found Abraham in Gen 12, who according to Joshua was the only man not worshiping false gods, even Abraham's father Terah served false gods...Dig deep and the scripture will be revealed to those of a pure heart who love the truth, if not God will send them strong delusion that they should believe the lie......The Nephilim Myth is sever strong delusion indeed....
Noah built the arch HAHAHAHAHHA
 
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He wrote all that and the only thing you noticed is that he added an h to arc???
 

JosephsDreams

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Based upon my life time study of genealogy and there capabilities..and comparing truth for truth and seing spirits with my own eyes take up the identity of a human being.
How long have you been studying this? You do not list your age.
I have a bit of a clinical background in biology. So I concur with your first statement
I do not doubt you seeing spirits. Nor do I doubt spirits taking up the identity of a human,

\Can you expand on it a little though?
Also, how do you come up with the billions estimation?
 

JosephsDreams

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That is not what the Book of Enoch says since women were giving birth to spirits;

You are trying to legitimize the Book of Enoch when you should be using the accepted scripture to discern why by the scripture that the Book of Enoch is not accepted as scripture. It is a fraud, and I have given you enough scripture beforehand for you to discern by Him why the Book of Enoch is a fraud.

You really believe Enoch had written a book that survived the Flood and that it preceded BEFORE the Lord led Moses by the Holy Spirit, in writing Genesis & the other books for the nations of Israel?

There would be no need for the Book of Enoch to be written by Enoch when Israel was not a nation yet. It is a fraud.
Unless you are a biblical scholar, I do not lend much weight to your ascertain. I can come up with many reasons why the book is legit.
 

JosephsDreams

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The bible is clear for those who accept the written word of God his house will remain clean and angel possesion can not occur
I generally agree. But it has to go beyond a simple acceptance of Jesus. One must avail His power.
 

JosephsDreams

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The seeds of Satan are demon posssessed men and women.

Genocides have been started because of the false belief that fallen angels have "tainted" the blood of some of the human race.

The book of Enoch is a fraud. If you accept it as holy scripture, you will come out with many false doctrines about what the Bible is saying.
It is not a fraud. What do you base that on?
Also, one does not need that book anyway to understand there were fallen angels that conceived with earth woman.
 

JosephsDreams

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Ill try not to leave you all confused... a child is born with a soul.....

Theres thousands upon millions of cases world wide of children seeing and talking to spirits..

Ever asked yourself why ?????

Many have but the best answer ive herd to date is the mind and soul of a child is less poluted and more awake due to the lack of input and focus needed to focus on being awake in mind and soul..(as an aldult we we are more focused on distractions to be fully awke through unwanted junk..
I just wrote a post in the natural section about people polluting their minds, bodies and spirits.