If a Christians diet and lifestyle are not following Gods laws of how to live, then..

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JosephsDreams

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... you are living a lower standard of spiritual sensitivity then you should be.

Your lack of knowledge and discipline is robbing you of a portion of the Holy Spirits guidance and people around you of your service to them and God. That is a sin.

All things being equal, it is a major portion of the reason, not often spoke of, but true, why the church in America is in the state it is in.

Christians are putting so much toxic garbage into their bodies that they are literally disorienting themselves not only physically and mentally, but spiritually too.

Christians that should be seeing certain spiritual elements in color are seeing them instead only in fussy black and white.

If anyone doubts this then your spiritual receptors are duller then you even realize.

Any Christian with a basic knowledge of the bible and God should understand this.

If food and other earthly pleasures are more important to some Christians then their relationship to God, well then maybe they need a reset.

As a well known Christian biologist said, we are spiritually and vibrationally induced, electro-magnetically and chemically empowered, and biologically executed.

Those are Gods laws, and a testament of the miraculous gift he gave us that our bodies are. They are indisputable.

We may not have control over certain environmental issues, or our DNA heritage, but we certainly have over our lifestyles.

It is partly a reason why the American church at large is sometimes indistinguishable from the world.
 
Willie-T

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This is so much truer than many people will ever realize.
 
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Salad tastes good......
 
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Just dropped my drumstick in my taters here......what?????:confused:
 
JosephsDreams

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Willie-T said:
This is so much truer than many people will ever realize.
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Thank you Willie. I appreciate your open mind and intelligence and sensitivity to the spirit. God bless you.
 
PeterJens

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JosephsDreams said:
Christians are putting so much toxic garbage into their bodies
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Now if one is going to be honest about this subject, fat and sugar, greed and self-indulgence.

Jesus did say this

What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.
Matt 15:11

If people knew what having love in their hearts meant, then they might start loving
their bodies as well.
 
JosephsDreams

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Inferring that the rest of us are stupid.. LOL
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No, at all Blue. Please don't take it that way. I was not thinking that when I posted that to Willie. I just think that some of you are either tentative, or have not been exposed to certain things, or are at different stages of your walk with Jesus.
We all miss things. Willie and I am no better.

Jesus said we have ears but do not hear. All of us are in that camp. Some of us just have different inclinations then others.
There are things that people pick up on that I don't or do not for years after they have.

I was just making a general comment to Willie that I thought he was a intelligent guy, that's all.

I think your all, or most of you, are very smart here. I do think some of you are not open minded to the spirit and maybe some new concepts though.
 
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PeterJens said:
Now if one is going to be honest about this subject, fat and sugar, greed and self-indulgence.

Jesus did say this

What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.
Matt 15:11

If people knew what having love in their hearts meant, then they might start loving
their bodies as well.
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You know how many times I have heard that? And the ,"oh, I just pray over my food." rationale?
 
blue_ladybug

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I was making a joke, Joseph.. Chill out.. :)


JosephsDreams said:
No, at all Blue. Please don't take it that way. I was not thinking that when I posted that to Willie. I just think that some of you are either tentative, or have not been exposed to certain things, or are at different stages of your walk with Jesus.
We all miss things. Willie and I am no better.

Jesus said we have ears but do not hear. All of us are in that camp. Some of us just have different inclinations then others.
There are things that people pick up on that I don't or do not for years after they have.

I was just making a general comment to Willie that I thought he was a intelligent guy, that's all.

I think your all, or most of you, are very smart here. I do think some of you are not open minded to the spirit and maybe some new concepts though.
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PeterJens

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JosephsDreams said:
You know how many times I have heard that? And the ,"oh, I just pray over my food." rationale?
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The problem is with your proposition, is it is not the spiritual element that is involved,
but the exploration of the unknown.

Our world future is vegetarian, because there is not enough land available to feed animals
to continue to feed everyone. So in the next 20 years things are going to change, and
already have started.

My family eats mainly vegetarian food.
With celiac intolerance, and sensitivities to other foods, it is also getting more
complex.

The young people are becoming a lot more aware and realise this is a worldwide
threat to our futures, in a way no one could imagine.

So I do not see this as a christian issue, but rather a face reality issue, and how
many think they have rights to never change, which is now total delusion.

But then as followers of Christ we are commited to change, to growing in love and
understanding of ourselves and others. I have found a lot of contributors have not
yet realised this is what it means for follow Christ, and would rather be forgiven,
going to heaven and everything else stays the same.
 
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blue_ladybug said:
I usually put shredded cheese and turkey or chicken on mine.. :)
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I do not eat chicken or turkey ^-^

I like to put nuts and cranberries in mine though!
 
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PeterJens said:
The problem is with your proposition, is it is not the spiritual element that is involved,
but the exploration of the unknown.

Our world future is vegetarian, because there is not enough land available to feed animals
to continue to feed everyone. So in the next 20 years things are going to change, and
already have started.

My family eats mainly vegetarian food.
With celiac intolerance, and sensitivities to other foods, it is also getting more
complex.

The young people are becoming a lot more aware and realise this is a worldwide
threat to our futures, in a way no one could imagine.

So I do not see this as a christian issue, but rather a face reality issue, and how
many think they have rights to never change, which is now total delusion.

But then as followers of Christ we are commited to change, to growing in love and
understanding of ourselves and others. I have found a lot of contributors have not
yet realised this is what it means for follow Christ, and would rather be forgiven,
going to heaven and everything else stays the same.
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this is definitely a 'Christian Issue', with a 'common-sense-issue as well',. -
Christians simply MUST face REALITY, or DIE a myriad of needless deaths'..
 
JosephsDreams

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Everything is a spiritual issue.

I made my diet and lifestyle a spiritual issue.
This is what most people on this site are missing, and indeed, what most Christians don't get. That is why they are failing and dying young and living at a lower level

How do you think I have maintained 100% veganism for 24 years, also eating the majority of my foods raw?

I would tell my Christian clients to make it a spiritual issue or they would likely fail.

In my own strength and discipline and will I did it?
I could not do it for a week if I relied on that.

Glory to God.
 
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JosephsDreams said:
Everything is a spiritual issue.

I made my diet and lifestyle a spiritual issue.
This is what most people are this site are missing, and indeed, what most Christians don't get. That is why they are failing and dying young and living at a lower level

How do you think I have maintained 100% veganism for 24 years, also eating the majority of my foods raw?

I would tell my Christian clients to make it a spiritual issue or they would likely fail.

In my own strength and discipline and will I did it?
I could not do it for a week if I relied on that.

Glory to God.
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Congrats!
It would be very hard for me to be a vegan, I'm a vegetarian but not quite to vegan. You're a trooper lol
 
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