yes I do aug 99- aug 2000. I never thought I was sinless. the main thing I found was how different the Bible was than the legalistic garbage that I was taught as a young person, that God loves us and wants us to turn to him,
"I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them."
John 17:26
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John 3:16
What gb9 is expressing is why I am shocked by him and the group as a whole.
The hurt and pain they have suffered being obedient disciples but now deeply hurt,
has truly distorted and wounded them. The hatred and bitterness is now poured out
against Gods people who identify with "God loves us and wants us to turn to him."
But in the very words he expresses, he declares himself the enemy of this truth.
His gospel is people accept they are where they are and accept Christ died for them.
Gone is any victory or overcoming, it is this victory they deny and call garbage.
"But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people."
2 Tim 3:1-5
Paul is declaring to walk in godliness is the power of the cross.
So those who end up hypocrites and failures are denying what the cross means.
But in truth what we are talking about is marriage, divorce, adultery, sexual desire and the
guilt that goes with it. Deep wounds, rejection, hurt, bitterness. Unless one can let Christ
heal at this level, everything else becomes a joke. But rather be totally compromised than
resolve the heart, and lie that you believe in Christ, but rather want all the emotional feelings
without getting right with the living God.
God forgave David, and overcame the adultery and murder through repentance and sorrow,
recognising the sin, and desiring not to do it again.