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jonnoboy

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Hello all, I just want to get other people's thoughts on muslims, my family are going through such a tough time with a family of muslims who have taken my sister, born and raised as a chrisitan, a very respectable one too, highly thought of in our local church, she was living away from home and became lonely so went on a chrsitian chat site (like this i guess!!) and met this guy claiming to be a christian, he then told kim to live with him in london and kim being kim is very naive and she just followed him because she always wanted a boyfriend to feel happy in life, they got married after 2 weeks, followed by this guy takin her saving s out of her account and puttin it into his, he denied it but the proof was on the account letter we were sent, they r in thousands of debts and then got themselves pregnant, we prayed that in the kindest way she wd have a miscarriage so the baby didnt have to be brought up in their poor conditions, after 12 weeks still no miscarriage and that is the max amount of weeks u can have a miscarriage....BUT THE LORD GOD HAD OTHER PLANS......after 18 weeks we got a phone call from my sis in tears sayin she had a miscariage, we all felt evil for being grateful cos that poor child suffered but then it got worse cos we found out her womb had been dented, we knew he was violent but this proved it cos how else did it get dented??????
We know she isnt happy there as she cant have children anymore and muslims have to haver hildren cos ot makes the men higher in the mosque and s he has threatened to leave her and she is worried about this, also she has cried on the phone to us saying that he is hitting her what should she do the police came around, she denyed everything, he is controlling her...If you have read all this so far, god bless you....All ii ask is to pray for her, We all love her sooo much and its breaking us apart this has been over a year now and we cant cope, although we r improving now of course....please guys pray for my sister....

Thanks

God bless.....Jonno XX
 
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pickles

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Your family and your sister are in my prayers.
Keep believing.
God bless, pickles
 
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I will be praying for your family and her as well and pray for his salvation, God is a faithful God and full of mercies.... his grace is suffeint for this situation and he will work all things for her good for she is chosen and loved by him..... and she love the Lord as well,,, I believe she is praying as well.... God will make away...
 
zeroturbulence

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Has she tried to get away? She needs to get divorced from this man and someone needs to go rescue her. I am praying for her.
 
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jonnoboy

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first why wd u hope??!! Why another lie???? i not lied before stop being rude!! This is very true and i am a bit offended that u said that and u felt the need to
 
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zeroturbulence

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jonnoboy said:
first why wd u hope??!! Why another lie???? i not lied before stop being rude!! This is very true and i am a bit offended that u said that and u felt the need to
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I beleive she has heard many lies about muslims because she lives in a muslim country and I am sure many of her family and friends are muslim even though she herself is christian. Please dont take it personally. I know that AP is a nice and kind person.
 
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artistic_dreams

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you know praying for someone in a bad situation is one thing...but praying for a baby to die in womb is appauling......its horrible.....im in shock....i pray that woman gets out of there.....but you should be down right shamed of yourselves for asking god to take an innocent chiilds life no matter what......how would you feel ifsomeone wish your child dead....i hope you feel disgusted w/urself.....
 
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Consumed

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jonnoboy said:
Hello all, I just want to get other people's thoughts on muslims, my family are going through such a tough time with a family of muslims who have taken my sister, born and raised as a chrisitan, a very respectable one too, highly thought of in our local church, she was living away from home and became lonely so went on a chrsitian chat site (like this i guess!!) and met this guy claiming to be a christian, he then told kim to live with him in london and kim being kim is very naive and she just followed him because she always wanted a boyfriend to feel happy in life, they got married after 2 weeks, followed by this guy takin her saving s out of her account and puttin it into his, he denied it but the proof was on the account letter we were sent, they r in thousands of debts and then got themselves pregnant, we prayed that in the kindest way she wd have a miscarriage so the baby didnt have to be brought up in their poor conditions, after 12 weeks still no miscarriage and that is the max amount of weeks u can have a miscarriage....BUT THE LORD GOD HAD OTHER PLANS......after 18 weeks we got a phone call from my sis in tears sayin she had a miscariage, we all felt evil for being grateful cos that poor child suffered but then it got worse cos we found out her womb had been dented, we knew he was violent but this proved it cos how else did it get dented??????
We know she isnt happy there as she cant have children anymore and muslims have to haver hildren cos ot makes the men higher in the mosque and s he has threatened to leave her and she is worried about this, also she has cried on the phone to us saying that he is hitting her what should she do the police came around, she denyed everything, he is controlling her...If you have read all this so far, god bless you....All ii ask is to pray for her, We all love her sooo much and its breaking us apart this has been over a year now and we cant cope, although we r improving now of course....please guys pray for my sister....

Thanks

God bless.....Jonno XX
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hi johnno, sorry to hear of your sisters plight, our greatest weapon against evil is prayer and the faith that we know God will answer that prayer for us thru Jesus and the cross. to focus on the fact that the guy is muslim is to take your eye off the solution, Jesus, love thy neighbour, bless those that spitefully use you, etc etc many scriptures. whatever your sister is going thru doesnt relegate the situation to the too hard basket for God. Cast all your cares upon Him, ALL, not some, and be still and wait on the Lord. Hope is the substance of things hoped for not seen, that faith is limited if we focus on what we see and not how God sees the situation. He has all the answers. trust him with your all
 
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leeannabanana

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Jonnoboy,
I have spend some time living throughout the middle east working for the U.S.. The Muslim religion/ culture is a very hard one to understand. We, as Christians are called by God to love and not judge, but it is hard with this religion. Many religions readily confess that they are the only true way to heaven and that all others are going to hell. This is really a sin as who but God know's this for sure? It is not our right to say this, but that being said, I do seriously question the integrity of this religion. Throughout the middle east children are taught through various forms of propaganda (both in the media and school) that Jews are pigs and Christians (specifically Americans and the British as we are allies with Israel) are basically "pig lovers" and they consider us "almost" as bad as the Jews. In schools children are even taught jihad warfare and basic bomb making (I don't know the extent of this, but I saw it in their text books). The torah itself is pretty similar to the bible and koran, with the addition of their prophet "Muhammed". This is where I believe it goes all wrong. From what I understand their prophet calls upon them to participate in the jihad against "infidels" (basically those who are not muslims). It is not much different then the Crusades that happened hundreds of years ago.
I particularly did not care to much for the culture. It is hard to trust these people as they believe they will have a high place in heaven and something like a dozen virgins if they die in the name of "Allah". (ie: the terrorists that blow themselves up to try to kill us). Don't get me wrong, not all Muslims believe this way. The scripture itself is very interpretable and many middle easterners (those who live in the countries like Iran, Iraq, ect) cannot read. Therefore, they depend on their local "pastor" to teach the message. Some are taught a very radical way and some not so much. The culture itself does not give much value to women. Until the recent liberation of Iraq by the US/British forces, female children were not even allowed to go to school. Suppression of the women is what has kept the men dominant for many many years. I have found that the actual tribe they are from plays a large role in the respect they give women. I found that the "kurdish" were the best to their women. I readily saw poligamy and abuse to women, children and animals. Is it more prevalent in this society than ours? I am not sure. In this culture a women is more to be seen (their eyes mostly) and not heard. My neighbor is from Iran, she left her husband with her children and the clothes on her back to escape years of abuse. My impression is that it is not all to uncommon in this society.
That being said, do you know where your sister is? If so, go and pick her up. Sometimes we must allow the ones we love to make big mistakes even though we know it is wrong. Have you ever heard the saying, "you cannot change anyone". The truth is, that people only change when they are ready and willing to change. In other words, unfortunately, your sister needs to leave on her own. As a nurse, I am not sure what you mean by her uterus was "dented"?? I am assuming you mean damaged in some way. If that was the case, she would have needed to be seen at a doctor in order to have a D/C to clear out the fetus. If it were due to trauma I would have hoped that the doctors would have called the cops to file an abuse report.
That being said, I will continue to pray for your sister as that is all we can do until she is ready and willing to stand up and leave on her own. If for some reason, you believe she is afraid to leave, you must help her and give her the encouragement to believe that everything will be okay. Often abusers convince their victims that they will hurt them or the ones they love if they leave. You can also call the cops and tell them what is happening, sometimes they will do "welfare checks" to make sure the person is okay if you are concerned for their safety.
Hope this helps, LeeAnn
 
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michiru_maeda

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ur sister is involved with bad muslim. im a christian but living in the biggest muslim population country and my maternal extended family is muslim too. the tought of having lots of children will make a muslim man position higher in a mosque doesnt apply to any muslim man. modern educated muslim men will treat women well and will tolerate other religion believers but the extreme muslim faith men comes from islamic boarding school. this kind of men have been indoctrinated by muslim superiority. they treat women like crap.
 
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KisDawn

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If you are this worried why don't you go get her and take her back home? I'm sure she can then file a restraining order with the police and get a divorce. No woman should ever be abused, and if she was my relative that is the least I would do to get her out of that situation. It's a very thin line between abuse and murder.
 
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jonnoboy said:
first why wd u hope??!! Why another lie???? i not lied before stop being rude!! This is very true and i am a bit offended that u said that and u felt the need to
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shes from palestine what did you expect lol jk.
 
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Consumed

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raf said:
shes from palestine what did you expect lol jk.
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our expectation and assurance comes thru Christ Jesus and Him alone, what is impossible for man is possible with God for those who believe.

lol
 
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jonnoboy

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Guys i have done all ur suggestions we been to the flat where she lives, been to the police but they cant do anything a sshe is over 21 :( when spolice go around she says things are fine but then phones us crying, we have done verything ion our power now it is the lord we wait upon
 
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Consumed

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hebrews 11:1 faith is the substance of things hoped for yet not seen - dont loose hope, hallmark of our faith in Jesus Christ to do what we at times deem impossible, His perfect timing, His perfect plan. Praying for her brother, be strong, fear not, look to the Cross not the situation
 
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KisDawn

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jonnoboy

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done it, like i said i have done it all, i just ask u all o pray please
 
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Consumed

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Jer 32:27 Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?
 
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