IOW, let's spit in the face of everyone who has every come to America the right way, the proper way, the legal way and while we're doing that, let's coddle those who feel entitled to come here illegally and then demand we cater to them.
You're naïve to the point that you're dangerous. You actually compare the suffering of eternal torment in hell with paying fines for people who've broken the law? Wow!
When I was a child I used to think I was brave enough and strong enough to forfeit my salvation and spend eternity in hell knowing that every other person who ever lived would have salvation because of my sacrifice, but now I know there's no way I would ever give up my being with God regardless of how many other people would benefit from my sacrifice. Not that such a possibility exists.
We can use our rights just as we wish. We can use our authority just as we wish. It's my right to forgive. It's my right to pay for the debts of a repentant illegal.
The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard
20 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. [SUP]2 [/SUP]He agreed to pay them a denarius[SUP][
a][/SUP] for the day and sent them into his vineyard.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]“About nine in the morning he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. [SUP]4 [/SUP]He told them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.’ [SUP]5 [/SUP]So they went.
“He went out again about noon and about three in the afternoon and did the same thing. [SUP]6 [/SUP]About five in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’
[SUP]7 [/SUP]“‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.
“He said to them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard.’
[SUP]8 [/SUP]“When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’
[SUP]9 [/SUP]“The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. [SUP]10 [/SUP]So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. [SUP]11 [/SUP]When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. [SUP]12 [/SUP]‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’
[SUP]13 [/SUP]“But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? [SUP]14 [/SUP]Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. [SUP]1
5 [/SUP]
Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”
Jesus Christ had to right to either let you go to hell... or save you.
This isn't naive-ness. This is outright being a Christian. I'm not for illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is wrong. That should not happen.
That being said, if we really want to apply Christian principle then we as Christians should look to justify them.
Look for repentant illegals, just like G-d looked for repentant sinners. This is basic Christianity. G-d saw us illegals in regards to sin... and instead of passing good judgement.. he passed redemption.
I'm not saying we should be stupid and take no precautions or judge evil as evil. I'm just saying your not applying the whole bible into this. Your only applying the parts of the bible that says "evil is evil and it deserves punishment" but, your forgetting that we were that evil and G-d redeemed us.
You used to be an illegal... worse than an illegal.
Matthew 18:21-35
The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.[SUP][
a][/SUP]
[SUP]23 [/SUP]“Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. [SUP]24 [/SUP]As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold[SUP][
b][/SUP] was brought to him. [SUP]25 [/SUP]Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]“At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ [SUP]27 [/SUP]The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]“But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins.[SUP][
c][/SUP] He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]“His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’
[SUP]30 [/SUP]“But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. [SUP]31 [/SUP]When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]“Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. [SUP]33 [/SUP]Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ [SUP]34 [/SUP]In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.
[SUP]35 [/SUP]“This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”
If you want to pass judgement so hastily, it's your right. But, bare in mind that your very much or exactly like the unmerciful servant for not looking for those
repentant illegals.
Also, it's my right to look for repentant illegals.
.... about giving up your salvation for others... That's amazing. That's probably not that bad if Paul said a similar thing..
Romans 9:3-4
[SUP]3 [/SUP]
For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race, [SUP]4 [/SUP]the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises.
