joining the army

[p_rehbein]

Well, for me it is fairly clear you do not have the slightest concept of what the Military does, or what the men and women who volunteer to serve their Nation do. Thus, your assessment of them is inane ............. at best.

As well, your effort to search through the netherworld of zombie threads to find this one makes me wonder what YOUR purpose in life is? IF you truly wanted to discuss this subject, why did you not simply AUTHOR a thread of your own?

Finally, my comment was directed AT the AUTHOR of this zombie thread. Are YOU the Author of this thread?

It seems to me I've just got a response from 3 people who would rather start trouble for me, make fun of me, and prove they have nothing worth while to say to me.

Here's a question for all 3 of you.
What is your purpose in life?
Please, enlighten us all.

 

[AllenW]

Well, for me it is fairly clear you do not have the slightest concept of what the Military does, or what the men and women who volunteer to serve their Nation do. Thus, your assessment of them is inane ............. at best.

As well, your effort to search through the netherworld of zombie threads to find this one makes me wonder what YOUR purpose in life is? IF you truly wanted to discuss this subject, why did you not simply AUTHOR a thread of your own?

Finally, my comment was directed AT the AUTHOR of this zombie thread. Are YOU the Author of this thread?

So, without knowing anything about me, you make a judgment and try to throw the onus back on me.
I ask you a question and you answer by attacking my character.
You insult my intelligence by saying you are talking to an inactive member and not making a nasty remark at me.
How do people like you live with themselves?

 

[FranC]

So, without knowing anything about me, you make a judgment and try to throw the onus back on me.
I ask you a question and you answer by attacking my character.
You insult my intelligence by saying you are talking to an inactive member and not making a nasty remark at me.
How do people like you live with themselves?

Dear Allen

Do you know that some persons do not merit a response?
Do you know that it's not important what they think?

You know the military well.
So you must know that sometimes you just walk away...
And take the high ground.

 

[Susanna]

Yet another thread outsmarts me.

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

It seems to me I've just got a response from 3 people who would rather start trouble for me, make fun of me, and prove they have nothing worth while to say to me.

Here's a question for all 3 of you.
What is your purpose in life?
Please, enlighten us all.

It seems to me I've just got a response from 3 people who would rather start trouble for me I was just shedding some light on the reality of the situation.

make fun of me I was hoping the picture of the kid would lighten up what I was trying to point out. Some people take these things in stride. It's unfortunate that you saw it as hurtful.

prove they have nothing worth while to say to me Well, hopefully someone else who read my post realized the reality of the situation and gained some insight. "Oh, this is an old thread...hasn't seen activity in several years!"

Here's a question for all 3 of you. What is your purpose in life? Please, enlighten us all. Responding to these questions would be irrelevant to the topic of the thread. While I'm guilty of doing that, I do try to avoid it.

 

[p_rehbein]

Quite easily, because I am somewhat adept at reading comprehension...........Look at the OP, then look at my first comment. You may believe yourself to be the center of attention, but, actually, you really are not.

So, without knowing anything about me, you attack me, make a judgment, and try to impune my character...........how does that differ from what you believe I did to you?

As for my second comment, it certainly WAS directed at you for you took it upon yourself to judge me and impune me and believed you knew my mind and my thoughts...........

Your sophomoric explanation of Soldiers was just that, and revealed you don't know squat about the Military. It was an insult to all the men and women who have served/are currently serving in the Military.........

Basically, dude, you need to get over yourself, you ain't all that.

So, without knowing anything about me, you make a judgment and try to throw the onus back on me.
I ask you a question and you answer by attacking my character.
You insult my intelligence by saying you are talking to an inactive member and not making a nasty remark at me.
How do people like you live with themselves?

 

[p_rehbein]

To show how silly you are.............


Comment #9, this Thread:

Zombie thread Ressurection?
OP last activity: April 11, 2013


My initial comment, #12, this Thread:

Maybe he has been reincarnated?

Pretty much sums it up.................you silly, silly person

 

[AllenW]

Well, for me it is fairly clear you do not have the slightest concept of what the Military does, or what the men and women who volunteer to serve their Nation do. Thus, your assessment of them is inane ............. at best.

As well, your effort to search through the netherworld of zombie threads to find this one makes me wonder what YOUR purpose in life is? IF you truly wanted to discuss this subject, why did you not simply AUTHOR a thread of your own?

Finally, my comment was directed AT the AUTHOR of this zombie thread. Are YOU the Author of this thread?

Am I the author of this zombie thread?
No, I am not and I don't want to be accused of being so,
Therefore, how about answering who he has been reincarnated into or at least who you were referring to.
If you were just trying to be humorous, then why the need to defend yourself and insult me?

And if you want to be respected, how about answering my question.
What is your purpose in life?

 

[AllenW]

Well, for me it is fairly clear you do not have the slightest concept of what the Military does, or what the men and women who volunteer to serve their Nation do. Thus, your assessment of them is inane ............. at best.

As well, your effort to search through the netherworld of zombie threads to find this one makes me wonder what YOUR purpose in life is? IF you truly wanted to discuss this subject, why did you not simply AUTHOR a thread of your own?

Finally, my comment was directed AT the AUTHOR of this zombie thread. Are YOU the Author of this thread?

I'm intrigued by your first statement.
It is clear to you that I know nothing of what the military does.
That must mean you do.
Let me ask you a question.
IN Iraq, the 101st Airborne division was sent on continual search and destroy missions.
What were they doing?

 

[Dude653]

My son is a Marine. I appreciate anyone who was willing to serve our country. Anyone who says otherwise is just being ridiculous

 

[FranC]

My son is a Marine. I appreciate anyone who was willing to serve our country. Anyone who says otherwise is just being ridiculous

I appreciate our military too. I'm not saying otherwise.

But your son VOLUNTEERED to join the Marines.

Could you imagine if your son had been sent to, let's say Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan, AGAINST his will and then died there.
How would that have made you feel?
Do you remember at all when men were drafted into the armed services? Whether or not they wanted to go...

Do you feel that you made and raised your son to fight in a war none of you might have believed in?

 

[Dude653]

I appreciate our military too. I'm not saying otherwise.

But your son VOLUNTEERED to join the Marines.

Could you imagine if your son had been sent to, let's say Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan, AGAINST his will and then died there.
How would that have made you feel?
Do you remember at all when men were drafted into the armed services? Whether or not they wanted to go...

Do you feel that you made and raised your son to fight in a war none of you might have believed in?

There were many conscientious objectors to the Vietnam War. I am of the opinion that we should not have gotten involved in that conflict. We went to war in Vietnam based on an incident that never happened. So if my son chose not to participate in a war that was against his beliefs then I will stand behind him

 

[dcontroversal]

My son is a Marine. I appreciate anyone who was willing to serve our country. Anyone who says otherwise is just being ridiculous

I know.....Imagine the view that the military is just a bunch of thugs and killers.....

Interesting story....remember the earth quake and ensuing flood that killed 300,000 plus.....yeah...who was first on the scene...? A United States aircraft carrier pulled up, ran lines ashore and used the NUKE plants on board to generate electricity while choppers, medics, marines, sailors helped dig out, rescue, feed, provide water, medical attention etc....

It is foolish to say that a military man/woman cannot serve God and or that the U.S. military is all bad......

The US military response to the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami had a powerful strategic influence on Indonesia, and led the US Navy to make far-reaching changes in its strategic approach to humanitarian assistance/disaster relief (HA/DR) operations. These changes emerged because the positive benefits of military-delivered relief were so clearly demonstrated and the experiences validated specific concepts that have since guided the US Navy toward becoming a humanitarian partner. Current force structures were demonstrated to be adaptable to HA/DR, close cooperation with diverse partners was affirmed as a key element of successful maritime operations, and seabasing was shown as an operational construct exceptionally well suited for HA/DR. As a result of the changes, the naval response to the tsunami that struck Japan in 2011 took place in a very different strategic context.

 

[FranC]

There were many conscientious objectors to the Vietnam War. I am of the opinion that we should not have gotten involved in that conflict. We went to war in Vietnam based on an incident that never happened. So if my son chose not to participate in a war that was against his beliefs then I will stand behind him

Well AMEN to that!

 

[willybob]

If my kingdom was of this world my servants would fight to deliver me, but my kingdom is not of this world....All the kingdoms of the world belong to Satan and they are his to give unto whom he so desires.. Luke 4..all kingdoms make the claim they are fighting for God, but Jesus says my kingdom IS NOT of this world.....Put away your sword Peter all that live by the sword die by the sword....it seems Jesus was rather simple and straight forward in His speech, yes?...........dig deep and build your house on the Rock of Truth, lest it be carried away in the overflowing global flood of lies......

 

[AllenW]

I know.....Imagine the view that the military is just a bunch of thugs and killers.....

Interesting story....remember the earth quake and ensuing flood that killed 300,000 plus.....yeah...who was first on the scene...? A United States aircraft carrier pulled up, ran lines ashore and used the NUKE plants on board to generate electricity while choppers, medics, marines, sailors helped dig out, rescue, feed, provide water, medical attention etc....

It is foolish to say that a military man/woman cannot serve God and or that the U.S. military is all bad......

The US military response to the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami had a powerful strategic influence on Indonesia, and led the US Navy to make far-reaching changes in its strategic approach to humanitarian assistance/disaster relief (HA/DR) operations. These changes emerged because the positive benefits of military-delivered relief were so clearly demonstrated and the experiences validated specific concepts that have since guided the US Navy toward becoming a humanitarian partner. Current force structures were demonstrated to be adaptable to HA/DR, close cooperation with diverse partners was affirmed as a key element of successful maritime operations, and seabasing was shown as an operational construct exceptionally well suited for HA/DR. As a result of the changes, the naval response to the tsunami that struck Japan in 2011 took place in a very different strategic context.

It's good to hear our military does good things.
I would be disappointed if it did not.
But here's the statement I made that brought this thread back to life.

"As a Christian, I don't think we should join the army.
It's not a group of Christians serving God.
It's a group of young men and women who follow orders and kill whoever they are told to kill."

You were off this topic and chose to ignore it.
I believe everyone in the military takes their orders from their leaders, and Jesus Christ is not one of those leaders.
The military is of the world and should consist of the world.
Even a Chaplain does what he is told or he will be relieved of his job.

The military is a worldly organization and should be run by worldly people.
AS Christians, we serve a different leader, Jesus Christ, and we belong to a different country, the Kingdom of God.
If we don't believe it, then we last knowledge of our faith.
If we don't live it, then we are weak in our faith.

But don't mix up serving your country and God bless America with being a Christian.
They are not one and the same.

 

[dcontroversal]

It's good to hear our military does good things.
I would be disappointed if it did not.
But here's the statement I made that brought this thread back to life.

"As a Christian, I don't think we should join the army.
It's not a group of Christians serving God.
It's a group of young men and women who follow orders and kill whoever they are told to kill."

You were off this topic and chose to ignore it.
I believe everyone in the military takes their orders from their leaders, and Jesus Christ is not one of those leaders.
The military is of the world and should consist of the world.
Even a Chaplain does what he is told or he will be relieved of his job.

The military is a worldly organization and should be run by worldly people.
AS Christians, we serve a different leader, Jesus Christ, and we belong to a different country, the Kingdom of God.
If we don't believe it, then we last knowledge of our faith.
If we don't live it, then we are weak in our faith.

But don't mix up serving your country and God bless America with being a Christian.
They are not one and the same.

Allen....I am trying real hard to engage you, just as I did in the other thread that I ended up getting ripped a new one in.....

The bible is replete with God using the militaries and particular soldiers in said militaries throughout the bible to work his will....

God raised up the Assyrians, Babylonians and Persians to work his will against the Northern Kingdom of Israel, against Judah and even against the Babylonians for the way they worked his will....God raised up the Israelites under Joshua to work his will militarily. God raised up judges to work his will militarily......

I fully agree that many wars are engaged for purposes that may seem erroneous or even evil and without a doubt some are and have been....that does not change the fact of the history that is found in the above references......Had the United States military not engaged the Germans or even the Japanese (both evil aggressor war mongering nations) the end result would have been a world changing event for the worse.....

God raises up and uses militaries and the scriptures prove this.....he uses individuals within the military at times to work his will....

Exactly why God said not to judge anything before the end of the age and the judgment of humanity.....

Paul speaks to being a dual citizen..one of the Roman Kingdom and one of the Heavenly Kingdom and he used both to his advantage.....and we are no different....we have dual citizenship as a saved child of God and God is consistently the same...

That is all I am saying....

 

[AllenW]

It's good to hear our military does good things.
I would be disappointed if it did not.
But here's the statement I made that brought this thread back to life.

"As a Christian, I don't think we should join the army.
It's not a group of Christians serving God.
It's a group of young men and women who follow orders and kill whoever they are told to kill."

You were off this topic and chose to ignore it.
I believe everyone in the military takes their orders from their leaders, and Jesus Christ is not one of those leaders.
The military is of the world and should consist of the world.
Even a Chaplain does what he is told or he will be relieved of his job.

The military is a worldly organization and should be run by worldly people.
AS Christians, we serve a different leader, Jesus Christ, and we belong to a different country, the Kingdom of God.
If we don't believe it, then we lack knowledge of our faith.
If we don't live it, then we are weak in our faith.

But don't mix up serving your country and God bless America with being a Christian.
They are not one and the same.

So I correct a typing error and I am told to write more characters.
Sorry.

 

[wsblind]

"As a Christian, I don't think we should join the army.
It's not a group of Christians serving God.
It's a group of young men and women who follow orders and kill whoever they are told to kill."

I think Christians should join the Army. The USA is Gods client nation to FREELY spread the gospel.

Do you think the world system or cosmic system would allow a FREE nation to exist? NOPE. Only Gods system allows man to exist FREE.

If the USA dies, so does the advancement of His Gospel. The world would shut down the gospel the minute after the fall of the USA. A strong military to scare the jeepers out of anyone who would dare attack. And a quick and easy knockout if someone tried.

 

[AllenW]

Allen....I am trying real hard to engage you, just as I did in the other thread that I ended up getting ripped a new one in.....

The bible is replete with God using the militaries and particular soldiers in said militaries throughout the bible to work his will....

God raised up the Assyrians, Babylonians and Persians to work his will against the Northern Kingdom of Israel, against Judah and even against the Babylonians for the way they worked his will....God raised up the Israelites under Joshua to work his will militarily. God raised up judges to work his will militarily......

I fully agree that many wars are engaged for purposes that may seem erroneous or even evil and without a doubt some are and have been....that does not change the fact of the history that is found in the above references......Had the United States military not engaged the Germans or even the Japanese (both evil aggressor war mongering nations) the end result would have been a world changing event for the worse.....

God raises up and uses militaries and the scriptures prove this.....he uses individuals within the military at times to work his will....

Exactly why God said not to judge anything before the end of the age and the judgment of humanity.....

Paul speaks to being a dual citizen..one of the Roman Kingdom and one of the Heavenly Kingdom and he used both to his advantage.....and we are no different....we have dual citizenship as a saved child of God and God is consistently the same...

That is all I am saying....

I can see that we are not going to agree on this but I must correct you on one thing.
The dual citizenship of Paul was being a Hebrew and a Roman.
The kingdom of God was not an issue of his dual citizenship.
He stopped being responsible for killing people as a Pharisee and he never joined a Roman legion.
He fought for the kingdom of God.
When he mention being a soldier for Christ, he said "what soldier gets involved with civilian affairs?
I guess that eliminates politics among other things.
And the mention of us being ambassadors for Christ?
Are you an ambassador for Christ?
Because an ambassador never gets involved with the politics of the country he is visiting.
Are you a citizen of the Kingdom of God?
Or are you a citizen of the world?
Or is the Kingdom of God just a metaphor or something?