The great flood

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valiant

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Where does it say that in the Bible? I mean don't get me wrong, Noah could've been from that area, but heck, the area that Noah was from might still be underwater by that same token. Oh there's plenty of evidence a Flood wiped out a lot of the world. There's even sea shells on the top of Mount Everest.
Because Mount Everest was once under the sea (Gen 1.9 ff}
 
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All the mountains under the whole Heaven meant as far as Noah could see, nothing more. They wrote of the world as they knew it.

The living things were restricted to all those on the face of the land, just as it says. It is your interpretation that is wrong :)
I don't think it says as far as Noah could see. I think when it says all the high hills were covered and the mountains were covered it means just what it says. Remember, Noah didn't write Genesis.

Sure every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth died.

It's no interpretation. No scripture is of private interpretation. One either believes what is written without adding or taking away from it, or they don't.
 

oldhermit

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I don't think it says as far as Noah could see. I think when it says all the high hills were covered and the mountains were covered it means just what it says. Remember, Noah didn't write Genesis.

Sure every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth died.

It's no interpretation. No scripture is of private interpretation. One either believes what is written without adding or taking away from it, or they don't.
Obviously, Valiant does not understand the physics of hydrology.
 

Magenta

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so then he never talked to them more to warn them of satans ways ? like more about what sin was as written in liviticus ?..

I mean whats odd about that ?.

All i asked was if God calls lieing with sister a sin its not allowed.. so there for he must have created more eves ?.

I really dont get whats od about that.
That is not all you asked. You need to read the Bible, and pray for understanding.

You have been told that the law had not yet been given. Do you understand that?
It is pretty simple and straightforward. Romans 5:13 might also help you.
 
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Because Mount Everest was once under the sea (Gen 1.9 ff}
Lol sure the dry land appeared on the third day. Problem there though for you is the creatures of the sea didn't exist until the fifth day.
 
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Obviously, Valiant does not understand the physics of hydrology.
Well man's physics is mostly lies and doctrines of men anyways, even some of the most famous heresies of all time. So I suppose we can't blame him for that.
 
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The ark ended up on the Ararat mountain (Turkey). Not so far from where it was built, right? Wild world-wide cataclysmic event would push it much further.
Was it? For all we know, the Garden of Eden could have been in what is now Detroit. During a flood topography changes. The bigger the flood the bigger the changes. We have absolutely no idea where civilization started. We only have an idea where it started again after the flood.
 

valiant

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I don't think it says as far as Noah could see. I think when it says all the high hills were covered and the mountains were covered it means just what it says. Remember, Noah didn't write Genesis.
But his sons did write the story of the Flood (Gen 10.1) This is the family history of the sons of Noah.

Sure every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth died.
translate as 'land'.
It's no interpretation. No scripture is of private interpretation. One either believes what is written without adding or taking away from it, or they don't.
I believe what is written but NOT your interpretation of it :) And your quote shows how you misunderstand the Scriptures :)
 

trofimus

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Where does it say that in the Bible? I mean don't get me wrong, Noah could've been from that area, but heck, the area that Noah was from might still be underwater by that same token. Oh there's plenty of evidence a Flood wiped out a lot of the world. There's even sea shells on the top of Mount Everest.
Not everything must be said in the Bible...Where is it in the Bible that there are sea shells on the top of Mount Everest? :)
 

Magenta

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I literly cried when he died xD.... And all the episodes after he died were terrible in my view...
lol sorry for derailing the thread:D We need an anime thread here
you may continue
Have some ice cream :D

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And cake :)

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oldhermit

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Well man's physics is mostly lies and doctrines of men anyways, even some of the most famous heresies of all time. So I suppose we can't blame him for that.
The physics of hydrology is simply the study of how water behaves. One of the most basic principles of hydrology is that water will always seek its own level. This principle alone shows the absolute impossibility of a mere localized flood of such magnitude.
 

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Was it? For all we know, the Garden of Eden could have been in what is now Detroit. During a flood topography changes. The bigger the flood the bigger the changes. We have absolutely no idea where civilization started. We only have an idea where it started again after the flood.
The Garden of Eden was Detroit. Now, its a den of iniquity.
 
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But his sons did write the story of the Flood (Gen 10.1) This is the family history of the sons of Noah.



translate as 'land'.


I believe what is written but NOT your interpretation of it :) And your quote shows how you misunderstand the Scriptures :)
Genesis 10:1

1 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.

Doesn't say Shem, Ham, and Japheth wrote Genesis, just says as it does. Not sure about your Bible, but mine says The First Book of Moses Genesis. I reckon that means Moses probably wrote it.

Sure, every creeping thing that creepeth upon the land died. Why did EVERY creeping thing that creepeth upon the land die?

Like I said this is no interpretation of mine. I believe it as it is written. No scripture is of private interpretation.
 

trofimus

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Was it? For all we know, the Garden of Eden could have been in what is now Detroit. During a flood topography changes. The bigger the flood the bigger the changes. We have absolutely no idea where civilization started. We only have an idea where it started again after the flood.
After such a cataclysmic event you propose (world wide flood) the life would not recover, no plants etc, everything would have to evolve from the beginning. But according to the Bible, known plants were growing very quickly after the Flood.

It would be also impossible for a land to "dry out" so quickly. What would animals and Noah eat after the Flood? Each other?
 
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The physics of hydrology is simply the study of how water behaves. One of the most basic principles of hydrology is that water will always seek its own level. This principle alone shows the absolute impossibility of a mere localized flood of such magnitude.
ok How about this mankind had not full inhabbited all of the earth like maybe one side,, so he stopped the earth from rotating and all the water from the top fell to the bottom.. :cool:
 
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i think its diffrent for half sister if there divorced.. when i say half sister i mean they dont dont share the same mum or father.. they share difrrent father and diffrent mothers.. meaning when the man and women got married they all ready had kids to defferent partners.. but when the mum and dad re married they became half sister and brother... that kind not the other..
I have a half sister and half brother. Same Dad. Different Mom. Kind of what the "half" means. It's illegal for me to marry my half brother, but it is still legal to marry cousins. (I chose neither. lol)

Truthly the only two choices given for how humans begetted that much at the very beginning are:
1. The biblical one, where brothers and sisters were spouses.
2. The evolutionary one, where humans mated with other species.

Your choice. (I find the second one revolting, but your choice.)
 

valiant

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Was it? For all we know, the Garden of Eden could have been in what is now Detroit. During a flood topography changes. The bigger the flood the bigger the changes. We have absolutely no idea where civilization started. We only have an idea where it started again after the flood.
were the Euphrates and the Tigris in Detroit?
 
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Not everything must be said in the Bible...Where is it in the Bible that there are sea shells on the top of Mount Everest? :)
Oh just pointing out that outside the Bible Sir Edmund Hillary claimed there were sea shells on top of mount Everest. It's fine to ignore that though. The Bible says the waters of the Flood covered the mountains, I reckon the seashell stuff would just be more proof. Indeed though it is better if you just have faith and believe as is written without needing any evidence.
 
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ok How about this mankind had not full inhabbited all of the earth like maybe one side,, so he stopped the earth from rotating and all the water from the top fell to the bottom.. :cool:
think of a gold fish bowl and what happens when you turn it upside down..