The great flood

[JIMBO43]

The concept of gravity escapes you, I think...

There is no gravity inside the earth.. there is outside of the earth... have a nice day tatyy buyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[88]

There is no gravity inside the earth.. there is outside of the earth... have a nice day tatyy buyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

*** I've been in very deep caverns in Carlsbad New Mexico and there is gravity...

 

[Spaid]

That law was not instituted until approx 400 yrs after Cain and Abel lived on the Earth. If God would have created more people, those people would have been sinless and I'm pretty sure that would have been mentioned in scripture. Just my opinion, Thx

 

[followjesus]

That law was not instituted until approx 400 yrs after Cain and Abel lived on the Earth. If God would have created more people, those people would have been sinless and I'm pretty sure that would have been mentioned in scripture. Just my opinion, Thx

430 years after abraham, way ...way after cain and abel.

abraham was told this

genesis 15:12-16 "As the sun was setting, Abram fell into a deep sleep, and a thick and dreadful darkness came over him. 13Then the Lord said to him, “Know for certain that for FOUR HUNDRED YEARS years your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own and that they will be enslaved and mistreated there. 14But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will come out with great possessions. 15You, however, will go to your ancestors in peace and be buried at a good old age. 16In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure.”


Paul who had access to the book of enoch says it was 430 years after the promise to abraham , abraham was well after the flood. He was the 9th generation of shem, who was a son of noah, who was the 10th of adam. probably at least 1000 or more years passed before the flood because the generations lasted 400-900 years or so. then add another few hundred from noah to abram, and 430 years after that came the Law of Moses. Noah was actually the hier of the righteousness of faith (Genesis 6, and hebrews 11)and not abram His greeeeaaattttt grandson.


this actually supports your point i just saw this and figured it was relevant.....

 

[Depleted]

This is pretty simple to test with the behavior of water. Pour a glass of water on the ground and see how it behaves. It does not pile up in a heap and simply stay in one spot. It spreads out until the water level reaches an equilibrium. This is a simple fact of physics.

It's not a glass of water. I live near the Appalachians. I can see them covered up. Puny in the schemes of mountains. Now compare them to the Rockies, and then the Alps. And then the Mongolian Mountains. Just because I'd be flooded out doesn't mean Napal would be.

I tend to believe the whole of the earth was flooded, but Valiant has a point. We don't know where Noah was before the flood. There could have been land somewhere else. We're guessing. And earth does mean both land and this sphere we're living on.

 

[Depleted]

Do you not know the difference between the text and an interpretation of a text? The text says, "in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened. The rain fell upon the earth for forty days and forty nights...The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered." There is no interpretation here. This is just what the text says. Anything else would be an interpretation in an attempt to minimize and discredit the language of the text.

Yup. You're right.
[FONT=&quot]17 The flood continued forty days on the earth. The waters increased and bore up the ark, and it rose high above the earth.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]18 The waters prevailed and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the face of the waters.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]19 And the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]20 The waters prevailed above the mountains, covering them fifteen cubits[/FONT][FONT=&quot] deep.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]

 

[Depleted]

but it is not an accurate translation, and the sons of Noah wrote from their viewpoint, not yours.

and the word earth also means land.

But the heavens clinches the deal.
[FONT=&quot]17 The flood continued forty days on the earth. The waters increased and bore up the ark, and it rose high above the earth.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]18 The waters prevailed and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the face of the waters.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]19 And the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]20 The waters prevailed above the mountains, covering them fifteen cubits[/FONT][FONT=&quot] deep.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]

 

[Depleted]

again i tell you that something that rotates can not find its level... That what you said or implied that the flood found its level

The earth is rotating. Water still finds its level. If it did not, we wouldn't know what that means to reference it.

 

[Depleted]

Depleted: Rem, the exodus in the desert where God gave the entire Hebrew population enough Water and food to survive.

Also, God was within the Ark with them,,,He is the one who shut the door

I heard the math. It works that they had enough food for the herbivores, carnivores, and omnivores.

 

[Depleted]

It appears to me, you got a big problem... A recommendation from an old man.

Go find a place where there are no others, no noise, no distractions.....Get on your knees and talk to GOD with all the seriousness and humbleness you can muster.!

Psssst, you're a kid to Valiant.

 

[Depleted]

Funny thing....I live in Missouri....was reading and posting on this thread about the flood and it was pouring rain outside and dropped so much rain in just 30 minutes that when I looked up I had 2 inches of water pouring in my front door (a buddy accidently had blocked the area that drains the water with a pile of wood).....I spent 1.5 hours cleaning up 2 inches of water in my whole kitchen....HAHAH WOW.....what are the odds.......!

Yeah I had to repent from a few nouns, verbs, adverbs and adjectives during the process .........thank God for mercy!

Next time our water heater goes or a pipe leaks, I'll call you. At least you have a sense of humor about it that doesn't hit us until I can walk downstairs without hear squish, squish, squish at every step. lol

 

[trofimus]

Scripture in NEVER written from the perspective of man. If you believe it is then you do not understand what the Bible is. Secondly, sons of Noah did not leave a written account. Written language would not develop for about another 1000 years. And why would you question the accuracy of the translation. What do you know of the original languages?

Of course it is...:

Waters above (Genesis). Above God? No, above us, people on Earth.

"[Sun] It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other." Psalm 19:6
- again, written from the point of view of humans

In the same way is also the description of Flood. Not described from the orbit, but described by humans living in those times.

 

[trofimus]

Correction, the first example is not in Genesis (it is used meaning "above skies", there), but for example here:

"He lays the beams of his roof loft on the water above, making clouds his chariot..." Psalm 104:3 (written again from the perspective of man)

 

[Ella85]

About 20 towels and the old time wringer in the kitchen sink.....and a lot of sweat.........!

HAAA HAA HAAA

 

[tanakh]

I am amused at the idea of people keeping records at the time. ''dear Diary'' its rained a lot lately glug ''

 

[oldhermit]

DC have you done any research on Peleg to place him at the division of the continents?????

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
The Tower of Babel event is believed to have occurred during the days of Peleg “for in his days was the earth divided;” This would have been about 150-180 years after the flood. This was probably about the same time in which Job lived. The division here was not a division of continents. This was something that would have happened during the flood. The division was one of language. This divided man into what would soon become ethnic classes. [/FONT]

 

[oldhermit]

It's not a glass of water. I live near the Appalachians. I can see them covered up. Puny in the schemes of mountains. Now compare them to the Rockies, and then the Alps. And then the Mongolian Mountains. Just because I'd be flooded out doesn't mean Napal would be.

I tend to believe the whole of the earth was flooded, but Valiant has a point. We don't know where Noah was before the flood. There could have been land somewhere else. We're guessing. And earth does mean both land and this sphere we're living on.

It does not matter where he was. If the mountains where you live were completely covered by water, how do you suppose this could happen unless the water of the rest of the world was the same level?

 

[oldhermit]

Of course it is...:

Waters above (Genesis). Above God? No, above us, people on Earth.

"[Sun] It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other." Psalm 19:6
- again, written from the point of view of humans

In the same way is also the description of Flood. Not described from the orbit, but described by humans living in those times.

If God says the waters were "above", how does this immediately assume this is written from the perspective of man? Thinlk about that for a moment.

 

[Depleted]

Correction, the first example is not in Genesis (it is used meaning "above skies", there), but for example here:

"He lays the beams of his roof loft on the water above, making clouds his chariot..." Psalm 104:3 (written again from the perspective of man)

Ummm, huh?
[FONT=&quot]He lays the beams of his chambers on the waters;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]he makes the clouds his chariot;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] he rides on the wings of the wind;[/FONT]

When was the last time you rode your cloud chariot or used the wings of the wind?

And, if you can, the next time you go for a ride with the clouds of your chariot, want to take me with you?

 

[oldhermit]

Ummm, huh?
He lays the beams of his chambers on the waters;
he makes the clouds his chariot;
he rides on the wings of the wind;

When was the last time you rode your cloud chariot or used the wings of the wind?

And, if you can, the next time you go for a ride with the clouds of your chariot, want to take me with you?

Good point. I must point out one thing regarding my own statement that scripture never sees things from the human perspective. This is not altogether true because we know that when Joshua commanded the sun to stand still in the sky this is explained from the human perspective. The only thing that would have caused the sun to appear to stand still in the sky would have been for the earth to cease its rotation. It was not the sun that stood still but the earth.