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Like I said DC, I do not discount the possibility of it. But when Peleg is connected in time to both the earth quake and the tower of Babble, and we clearly see the earth divided at this time through language there is no way this point can be conclusively proven either way. You know as well as I that the word earth is very often used to refer to collective humanity in scripture and not simply the planet on which we live.
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The Great Flood: Just a Bible Story?
https://watchjerusalem.co.il/2017/02/17/the-great-flood-just-a-bible-story/
Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood?
Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood? | The Institute for Creation Research
“And, behold, I even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh,
wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die …
every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth”
(Genesis 6:17; 7:4).
Aside from Noah, his family, the animals inside the ark, and any aquatic animals surviving
the floodwaters, this was a worldwide destruction that wiped out everything “under heaven.”
“And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were
under the whole heaven, were covered … and the mountains were covered … and Noah
only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark” (Genesis 7:18-20, 23).
This was a globe-covering catastrophe
a worldwide event occurred affecting all human life, it should be expected that the ensuing
generations would have their own memories, records and legends of this enormous event.
And remarkably, this is exactly what we find, all around the world. Various descriptions of
a great, cataclysmic ancient flood are common around the world. These common ideas point
to a common root event.
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The Epic of Gilgamesh is probably the most famous extra-biblical Flood account. It is found
on a series of tablets from the ancient city of Sumeria. The most complete tablets date to
around 650 b.c., but these are known to be copies from more ancient tablets (parts of which
have been found), dating to around 2000 b.c. In turn, these 4,000-year-old tablets are them-
selves thought to have been sourced from even older material. Chronologically, this puts
the Sumerian account quite close to the time of the flood that the Bible indicates.
The Epic of Gilgamesh describes a Noah-like figure named Utnapishtim. According to the epic,
Utnapishtim built a boat within which he, his relatives, and all species of animals survived a
flood that destroyed all mankind. Like the biblical account, Gilgamesh states that the reason
for the flood was human wickedness. Like the biblical account, the large boat came to rest on
a mountain. Both accounts describe birds being released to test whether the water had sufficiently
subsided. In fact, both accounts describe the use of the same bird species, the dove and the raven.
Both accounts record that sacrifices were offered after the flood, and both records say that the
men (Utnapishtim, Noah) were afterward blessed.
Gilgamesh differs from the biblical account in a number of ways, but the similarities
as described above are too striking to overlook.
-
Another ancient account of a great flood is the Babylonian Ark Tablet.
This dates to around 1900–1700 b.c. The god described on this tablet instructed Atra-hasis
to build a boat for himself and the animals to survive an imminent flood. It also specifically
states that the animals entered the boat two-by-two. The Bible records the identical fact:
the animals boarded in pairs (Genesis 7:2, 8-9). The Ark Tablet also differs from the
biblical account (for instance, it describes the boat as perfectly round in shape), yet the
commonality with the Bible is remarkable.
-
There is the Greek myth of Deucalion.The myth states that after human beings were created,
they disobeyed the gods. It was decided that they should be destroyed. The righteous
Deucalion and his wife were spared in an ark from the flood that destroyed mankind. Deucalion’s
ark landed on a mountain, and after surviving the flood, he offered sacrifices. Interestingly,
Deucalion’s great-grandson was Ion. Ion compares to Noah’s grandson Javan, whose name is
actually spelled with the Hebrew letters I/E, O, N.
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The ancient Chinese told many myths about floods, some describing the waters as “reaching
heaven.” In some of these legends, the main character is a female named Nüwa (a strikingly
similar name to Noah). She repopulates the Earth and repairs the broken heavens. In imagery
invoking the rainbow of Genesis, Nüwa patches the damaged sky by smelting stones of five colors.
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Then there’s the Hindu tale of Manu, who is warned about a flood and builds a boat to contain
the seeds of life with which to repopulate the Earth. His boat, tugged by a fish, comes to rest on
a mountaintop, and Manu performs a sacrifice. You can read further of Irish and Welsh flood
myths, Finnish and Norse blood-deluge myths, numerous African flood myths, Pacific flood myths,
and ancient American flood myths.
This begs the question: How did all of these completely different peoples,
all over the globe, get the same general—and sometimes very specific—ideas?
-
In “Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood?”, John Morris, Ph.D.,
described his collection and analysis of more than 200 accounts of floods, originally reported by
missionaries, anthropologists and ethnologists
Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood? | The Institute for Creation Research
Morris concluded his article by writing:
The only credible way to understand the widespread, similar flood legends is to recognize that
all people living today, even though separated geographically, linguistically and culturally, have
descended from the few real people who survived a real global flood, on a real boat which
eventually landed on a real mountain. Their descendants now fill the globe, never to forget the
real event.
https://watchjerusalem.co.il/2017/02/17/the-great-flood-just-a-bible-story/
Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood?
Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood? | The Institute for Creation Research
“And, behold, I even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh,
wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die …
every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth”
(Genesis 6:17; 7:4).
Aside from Noah, his family, the animals inside the ark, and any aquatic animals surviving
the floodwaters, this was a worldwide destruction that wiped out everything “under heaven.”
“And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were
under the whole heaven, were covered … and the mountains were covered … and Noah
only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark” (Genesis 7:18-20, 23).
This was a globe-covering catastrophe
a worldwide event occurred affecting all human life, it should be expected that the ensuing
generations would have their own memories, records and legends of this enormous event.
And remarkably, this is exactly what we find, all around the world. Various descriptions of
a great, cataclysmic ancient flood are common around the world. These common ideas point
to a common root event.
-
The Epic of Gilgamesh is probably the most famous extra-biblical Flood account. It is found
on a series of tablets from the ancient city of Sumeria. The most complete tablets date to
around 650 b.c., but these are known to be copies from more ancient tablets (parts of which
have been found), dating to around 2000 b.c. In turn, these 4,000-year-old tablets are them-
selves thought to have been sourced from even older material. Chronologically, this puts
the Sumerian account quite close to the time of the flood that the Bible indicates.
The Epic of Gilgamesh describes a Noah-like figure named Utnapishtim. According to the epic,
Utnapishtim built a boat within which he, his relatives, and all species of animals survived a
flood that destroyed all mankind. Like the biblical account, Gilgamesh states that the reason
for the flood was human wickedness. Like the biblical account, the large boat came to rest on
a mountain. Both accounts describe birds being released to test whether the water had sufficiently
subsided. In fact, both accounts describe the use of the same bird species, the dove and the raven.
Both accounts record that sacrifices were offered after the flood, and both records say that the
men (Utnapishtim, Noah) were afterward blessed.
Gilgamesh differs from the biblical account in a number of ways, but the similarities
as described above are too striking to overlook.
-
Another ancient account of a great flood is the Babylonian Ark Tablet.
This dates to around 1900–1700 b.c. The god described on this tablet instructed Atra-hasis
to build a boat for himself and the animals to survive an imminent flood. It also specifically
states that the animals entered the boat two-by-two. The Bible records the identical fact:
the animals boarded in pairs (Genesis 7:2, 8-9). The Ark Tablet also differs from the
biblical account (for instance, it describes the boat as perfectly round in shape), yet the
commonality with the Bible is remarkable.
-
There is the Greek myth of Deucalion.The myth states that after human beings were created,
they disobeyed the gods. It was decided that they should be destroyed. The righteous
Deucalion and his wife were spared in an ark from the flood that destroyed mankind. Deucalion’s
ark landed on a mountain, and after surviving the flood, he offered sacrifices. Interestingly,
Deucalion’s great-grandson was Ion. Ion compares to Noah’s grandson Javan, whose name is
actually spelled with the Hebrew letters I/E, O, N.
-
The ancient Chinese told many myths about floods, some describing the waters as “reaching
heaven.” In some of these legends, the main character is a female named Nüwa (a strikingly
similar name to Noah). She repopulates the Earth and repairs the broken heavens. In imagery
invoking the rainbow of Genesis, Nüwa patches the damaged sky by smelting stones of five colors.
-
Then there’s the Hindu tale of Manu, who is warned about a flood and builds a boat to contain
the seeds of life with which to repopulate the Earth. His boat, tugged by a fish, comes to rest on
a mountaintop, and Manu performs a sacrifice. You can read further of Irish and Welsh flood
myths, Finnish and Norse blood-deluge myths, numerous African flood myths, Pacific flood myths,
and ancient American flood myths.
This begs the question: How did all of these completely different peoples,
all over the globe, get the same general—and sometimes very specific—ideas?
-
In “Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood?”, John Morris, Ph.D.,
described his collection and analysis of more than 200 accounts of floods, originally reported by
missionaries, anthropologists and ethnologists
Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood? | The Institute for Creation Research
Morris concluded his article by writing:
The only credible way to understand the widespread, similar flood legends is to recognize that
all people living today, even though separated geographically, linguistically and culturally, have
descended from the few real people who survived a real global flood, on a real boat which
eventually landed on a real mountain. Their descendants now fill the globe, never to forget the
real event.
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Jesus said in Matthew 24:37-39, “But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of
the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not
until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
Christ not only confirmed the events of Noah’s day, He said the same worldwide destruction
would come about in our day—only this time in the form of nuclear world war! (ver 21-22).
In Hebrews 11, the Apostle Paul wrote, “By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not
seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he
condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith” (v. 7).
God gave Noah absolutely no physical evidence to suggest that a flood would come.
And yet he built the ark—believing and acting on what God said would happen.
the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not
until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
Christ not only confirmed the events of Noah’s day, He said the same worldwide destruction
would come about in our day—only this time in the form of nuclear world war! (ver 21-22).
In Hebrews 11, the Apostle Paul wrote, “By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not
seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he
condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith” (v. 7).
God gave Noah absolutely no physical evidence to suggest that a flood would come.
And yet he built the ark—believing and acting on what God said would happen.
Or maybe no gravity at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have always wondered how gravity was so strong to not only keep the large buildings from floating off but also the seas. By the same token, it is weak enough for a GNAT to fly, a butterfly to fly. Even if you put fruit flies in a jar where there are no wind currents, they are still able to fly.
Have tried to put mathematics to it but there is no formula(s) that can account for the weakness vs the strength of Gravity itself.
And we have not touched on the Moon that supposedly has gravity of its own. From what I here, it is getting further away from the earth. How can that be?????/
They say a cannonball and a very much smaller steel ball (different weights) will hit the ground at the same time if dropped from an equal height
Oh well, what goes up must come down is what I always say.
I have always wondered how gravity was so strong to not only keep the large buildings from floating off but also the seas. By the same token, it is weak enough for a GNAT to fly, a butterfly to fly. Even if you put fruit flies in a jar where there are no wind currents, they are still able to fly.
Have tried to put mathematics to it but there is no formula(s) that can account for the weakness vs the strength of Gravity itself.
And we have not touched on the Moon that supposedly has gravity of its own. From what I here, it is getting further away from the earth. How can that be?????/
They say a cannonball and a very much smaller steel ball (different weights) will hit the ground at the same time if dropped from an equal height
Oh well, what goes up must come down is what I always say.
Why is Strong's concordance such an authority for English speaking Christians? Its over 130 years old book and made specially for KJV. There are more current works in this area...
Also, it is a concordance, neither a lexicon nor dictionary...
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PELEG
pe'-leg (pelegh, "watercourse," "division"):
A son of Eber, and brother of Joktan. The derivation of the name is given: "for in his days was the earth divided" (niphleghah) (Genesis 10:25; compare Luke 3:35, the King James Version "Phalec"). This probably refers to the scattering of the world's population and the confounding of its language recorded in Genesis 11:1-9. In Aramaic pelagh and Arabic phalaj mean "division"; in Hebrew pelegh means "watercourse." The name may really be due to the occupation by this people of some well-watered (furrowed), district (e.g. in Babylonia), for these patronymics represent races, and the derivation in Genesis 10:25 is a later editor's remark.
S. F. Hunter, International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
Also, it is a concordance, neither a lexicon nor dictionary...
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PELEG
pe'-leg (pelegh, "watercourse," "division"):
A son of Eber, and brother of Joktan. The derivation of the name is given: "for in his days was the earth divided" (niphleghah) (Genesis 10:25; compare Luke 3:35, the King James Version "Phalec"). This probably refers to the scattering of the world's population and the confounding of its language recorded in Genesis 11:1-9. In Aramaic pelagh and Arabic phalaj mean "division"; in Hebrew pelegh means "watercourse." The name may really be due to the occupation by this people of some well-watered (furrowed), district (e.g. in Babylonia), for these patronymics represent races, and the derivation in Genesis 10:25 is a later editor's remark.
S. F. Hunter, International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
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I've pondered on this question, the bible flood was about 5000 years, with only Noah his wife and three siblings with their wives around 8 people. How on earth in just 5000 years that today there is a bunch of different ethnic people around the globe, from Africa to Asia, Europians to Arabs, Jewish, American Indians, South Americans, Eskimo etc. this is such a wide diversity not even funny in such a short time frame. I've heard some theory of it, mainly that Noah's family was made up of all these differents races of people. Yet that's just a theory no scripture to support that. And something else who was Noah and his wife where they Jewish people or what? I haven't found anything that says he was Jewish or anything.
I'd really would enjoy a logical answer that includes scripture to support such a diverse people that we are today.
I'd really would enjoy a logical answer that includes scripture to support such a diverse people that we are today.