The great flood

[BeyondET]

You must be reading the KJV. Heli is a variation of Eli. He is listed in Luke 3 as the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary the mother of Jesus

Sort of though I saw that in a English standard version as well, seems though after just looking up afew more versions a few list as Heli as well as Eli.

Mary go round of translations lol.

New International Version
Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli,

New Living Translation
Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his public ministry. Jesus was known as the son of Joseph. Joseph was the son of Heli.

English Standard Version
Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,

Berean Study Bible
Jesus Himself was about thirty years old when He began His ministry. He was known as the son of Joseph, the son of Heli,

Berean Literal Bible
And Jesus beginning, was Himself about thirty years old, being son as was supposed, of Joseph, of Heli,

New American Standard Bible
When He began His ministry, Jesus Himself was about thirty years of age, being, as was supposed, the son of Joseph, the son of Eli,

King James Bible
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

Holman Christian Standard Bible
As He began His ministry, Jesus was about 30 years old and was thought to be the son of Joseph, son of Heli,

International Standard Version
Jesus himself was about 30 years old when he began his ministry. He was (as legally calculated) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli,

NET Bible
So Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years old. He was the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,

New Heart English Bible
Jesus himself, when he began to teach, was about thirty years old, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Eli,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
But Yeshua was about thirty years old, and he was considered the son of Yoseph, son of Heli,

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Jesus was about 30 years old when he began [his ministry]. Jesus, so people thought, was the son of Joseph, son of Eli,

New American Standard 1977
And when He began His ministry, Jesus Himself was about thirty years of age, being supposedly the son of Joseph, the son of Eli,

Jubilee Bible 2000
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, who was the son of Heli,

King James 2000 Bible
And Jesus himself was about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, who was the son of Heli,

American King James Version
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

American Standard Version
And Jesus himself, when he began to teach , was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the'son of Heli,

Douay-Rheims Bible
And Jesus himself was beginning about the age of thirty years; being (as it was supposed) the son of Joseph, who was of Heli, who was of Mathat,

Darby Bible Translation
And Jesus himself was beginning to be about thirty years old; being as was supposed son of Joseph; of Eli,

English Revised Version
And Jesus himself, when he began to teach, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,

Webster's Bible Translation
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, who was the son of Heli,

Weymouth New Testament
And He--Jesus--when He began His ministry, was about thirty years old. He was the son (it was supposed)

World English Bible
Jesus himself, when he began to teach, was about thirty years old, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,

Young's Literal Translation
And Jesus himself was beginning to be about thirty years of age, being, as was supposed, son of Joseph,

 

[JIMBO43]

I've pondered on this question, the bible flood was about 5000 years, with only Noah his wife and three siblings with their wives around 8 people. How on earth in just 5000 years that today there is a bunch of different ethnic people around the globe, from Africa to Asia, Europians to Arabs, Jewish, American Indians, South Americans, Eskimo etc. this is such a wide diversity not even funny in such a short time frame. I've heard some theory of it, mainly that Noah's family was made up of all these differents races of people. Yet that's just a theory no scripture to support that. And something else who was Noah and his wife where they Jewish people or what? I haven't found anything that says he was Jewish or anything.

I'd really would enjoy a logical answer that includes scripture to support such a diverse people that we are today.

Answer easy God created more adam and eves

 

[JIMBO43]

The answer you seek is in the bible....
look in the Book of Genesis you can find it there concerning the tower of Babel.

Yup but that doesnt explain it cause tohe tower of babel doesnt mention races.. it just said devide there language..?

 

[JIMBO43]

Did the Muslim race begin with Abraham?

Lol say whatttttttttttt

 

[JIMBO43]

I've read somewhere that some folks thinks it may have been 12,000 years ago, ice age.

dunooo nut over here i have seen a real life dinosaw skeleton... theres no mention of them in th bible.. go figure..missing scripture perhaps ?

 

[JIMBO43]

Its no wonder i get dizzy

 

[trofimus]

Sort of though I saw that in a English standard version as well, seems though after just looking up afew more versions a few list as Heli as well as Eli.

Mary go round of translations lol.

New International Version
Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli,

New Living Translation
Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his public ministry. Jesus was known as the son of Joseph. Joseph was the son of Heli.

English Standard Version
Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,

Berean Study Bible
Jesus Himself was about thirty years old when He began His ministry. He was known as the son of Joseph, the son of Heli,

Berean Literal Bible
And Jesus beginning, was Himself about thirty years old, being son as was supposed, of Joseph, of Heli,

New American Standard Bible
When He began His ministry, Jesus Himself was about thirty years of age, being, as was supposed, the son of Joseph, the son of Eli,

King James Bible
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

Holman Christian Standard Bible
As He began His ministry, Jesus was about 30 years old and was thought to be the son of Joseph, son of Heli,

International Standard Version
Jesus himself was about 30 years old when he began his ministry. He was (as legally calculated) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli,

NET Bible
So Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years old. He was the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,

New Heart English Bible
Jesus himself, when he began to teach, was about thirty years old, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Eli,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
But Yeshua was about thirty years old, and he was considered the son of Yoseph, son of Heli,

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Jesus was about 30 years old when he began [his ministry]. Jesus, so people thought, was the son of Joseph, son of Eli,

New American Standard 1977
And when He began His ministry, Jesus Himself was about thirty years of age, being supposedly the son of Joseph, the son of Eli,

Jubilee Bible 2000
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, who was the son of Heli,

King James 2000 Bible
And Jesus himself was about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, who was the son of Heli,

American King James Version
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

American Standard Version
And Jesus himself, when he began to teach , was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the'son of Heli,

Douay-Rheims Bible
And Jesus himself was beginning about the age of thirty years; being (as it was supposed) the son of Joseph, who was of Heli, who was of Mathat,

Darby Bible Translation
And Jesus himself was beginning to be about thirty years old; being as was supposed son of Joseph; of Eli,

English Revised Version
And Jesus himself, when he began to teach, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,

Webster's Bible Translation
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, who was the son of Heli,

Weymouth New Testament
And He--Jesus--when He began His ministry, was about thirty years old. He was the son (it was supposed)

World English Bible
Jesus himself, when he began to teach, was about thirty years old, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,

Young's Literal Translation
And Jesus himself was beginning to be about thirty years of age, being, as was supposed, son of Joseph,

In Greek, the name is Ἡλεὶ. Do you see the small accent mark in the beginning? Its a breathing mark making the "h" sound when reading the name. So some translators decided to add it as a letter to English transcription, some did not. The person is still the same, though.

 

[Embankment]

I find most Biblical arguments regarding the age of the earth or nature of the flood to be flawed at best. God says he created the earth and universe and I believe that to be. To make arguments using physics and scientific means seems to put limits on God. God has no limits!
Frethermore, if God intended us to know all the details of how the universe evolved he could have filled books and more books with exactly how and the dates it happened. Instead he filled a book with the very important story of Jesus Christ. Jesus who saved us from our sins and gave us eternal life. This other stuff is milk for babies.

 

[JIMBO43]

Indeed it could very well be of adaption to climate and the like. but its still to me quite interesting it happened in afew thousand years yet from 1AD to today 2000 years plus and we don't see very much changes taking place today. little read I've looked at.

Adaption and climate.

There are other racial characteristics that are obviously adaptations to the climates in which the races evolved. Many East African peoples have elongated limbs and bodies that easily dissipate heat. North Asians, on the other hand, have evolved in a cold climate. Their bodies are more squat, they have thick, dark hair, and the epicanthic fold that gives Asians almond-shaped eyes is thought to reduce glare from snow and ice. A flat nose is less exposed to cold, and the virtual absence of facial hair means that condensation from a man’s breath will not freeze on his beard and chill his face. All of these characteristics are most obvious in the Asians who live in the coldest climates.

Some racial differences are not so easily explained. Phenylthiocarbamide (PTC) is a chemical that can be synthesized in the laboratory. To some people, it has a strong, bitter flavor, but to others it has no flavor at all. Seventy percent of Australian aborigines can taste PTC, but only 13 percent of Navaho Indians can. Fifty percent of whites and about 38 percent of Japanese can taste it.

For whatever reasons, the races do not smell the same. Blacks and whites have strong, but differing smells, and many Asians have scarcely any smell. Koreans often have no odor-producing glands in their arm-pits at all and Japanese have very few. Nineteenth-century Japanese found Europeans so foul-smelling that even today, a common Japanese expression for anything Western means “stinking of butter.”

Though they may not always be willing to say so, sports physicians have found physical differences that give different races advantages in different sports (see “May the Best Man Win,” AR, Oct. 1992). Whites and West Africans, for example, differ in proportions of body fat, width of hips, thickness of thighs, bone density, and proportion of fast- and slow-twitch muscle. Even East and West Africans differ in important ways that explain why they excel in different sports.

Because blacks have such dense bones, they are less buoyant and less likely to be swimming champions. However, their bones are more resistant to aging. After their mid-30s, white men lose about 2.5 percent of their bone mass every year. Blacks lose less than one percent. Loss of bone mass speeds up greatly under conditions of weightlessness, so blacks could probably survive longer space voyages than whites.

yup more theories for more adam and eves.. lol

 

[JIMBO43]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_Nations

How do they know noah was jewish... i mean he could have been a brit who ended up on dry land on mount ararat haha

 

[prove-all]

How do they know noah was jewish... i mean he could have been a brit who ended up on dry land on mount ararat haha

I did not know that link said Noah was jewish,
first time jew[short for Judah] is mentioned in the bible,
they where going to war with Israel.

 

[dcontroversal]

Peleg means "division", not "earthquake".

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
Peleg The same as peleg; earthquake; Peleg, a son of Shem -- Peleg

The name Peleg comes from the verb פלג (palag), to split or divide, "for in his days the earth was divided" (Genesis 10:25):

 

[trofimus]

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
Peleg The same as peleg; earthquake; Peleg, a son of Shem -- Peleg

The name Peleg comes from the verb פלג (palag), to split or divide, "for in his days the earth was divided" (Genesis 10:25):

Strong is a concordance to KJV from 19th century. Not an authority on the meaning of the words...

 

[BeyondET]

Answer easy God created more adam and eves

hehe, or it could be that these two humans where the first to be outfitted with a soul, sort of like building a computer system, start with the motherboard add some ram, a processor, hard drive, power supply, then when all the pieces are together the electricity is supplied and the computer is up and running. Similar to like WAM breathed life into the human vessel once the vessel is farther along in its development all the parts in place. dirt to bone to flesh a simple process explained yet needed for A vessel that can support a soul.

 

[BillG]

I find most Biblical arguments regarding the age of the earth or nature of the flood to be flawed at best. God says he created the earth and universe and I believe that to be. To make arguments using physics and scientific means seems to put limits on God. God has no limits!
Frethermore, if God intended us to know all the details of how the universe evolved he could have filled books and more books with exactly how and the dates it happened. Instead he filled a book with the very important story of Jesus Christ. Jesus who saved us from our sins and gave us eternal life. This other stuff is milk for babies.

I'm not sure that I would find the arguements flawed.
To me you are either a young earth creationist or not. Both sides present their plausible thoughts.

The problem is that we argue this point to the nth degree and miss the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is that there is a creator and that creator is God.
What we argue about concerning creation is not fundamental to salvation.

What is fundamental is that after the creation story is that sin entered the world and when it did straight away God revealed the plan the way of salvation.

Genesis 3:14-15


Then the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, you are cursed more than all animals, domestic and wild.
You will crawl on your belly, groveling in the dust as long as you live.
And I will cause hostility between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring.
He will strike your head, and you will strike his heel.”

As you say the more important story is the story of Jesus, who has saved us from our sins and has given us eternal life, when we accept him as Lord and saviour.

Debating creation should not be a hill to die on.
We should remember that Jesus died on hill for us and the whole world. Now that's a hill to die on.

 

[dcontroversal]

Strong is a concordance to KJV from 19th century. Not an authority on the meaning of the words...

The context is clear, the rest of the verbiage fits....so.....to quote the Aussies.....Whatevzzz.......

 

[trofimus]

The context is clear, the rest of the verbiage fits....so.....to quote the Aussies.....Whatevzzz.......

Yes, the context is clear, the land was divided, not destroyed by earthquakes

 

[Bladerunner]

That law was not instituted until approx 400 yrs after Cain and Abel lived on the Earth. If God would have created more people, those people would have been sinless and I'm pretty sure that would have been mentioned in scripture. Just my opinion, Thx

The scripture hints at animal sacrifice during this so called 400 years you speak of. If there was animal sacrifice, then there was law and was away to remove the sin of man long before the Leviticus.

 

[Bladerunner]

Did the Muslim race begin with Abraham?

rem Noah and the Flood!.


Everybody here on earth in descended from them! With a part of Adam and Eve surely but Noah, his wife, three sons were perfect in DNA from Adam. Because the wives of the sons were not perfect, we, all races became of these.

 

[Bladerunner]

Well, there are only three basic groups of humans as defined by race. These are orientals, occidentals, and negroid. Every other sub-race is descended from one of these three races.

Hey Oldhermit...how are you doing..ok, I hope.....


I think you forgot a race..........The "accidentals" lol