Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer

[JIMBO43]

Do they sell nappies and binkies in jolly old England HAHA just because I like a post does not necessarily mean I agree with everything said.......and for the record on the other statement....UMMM England never did beat the U.S.....if you did we would be England WEST....just because your tea drinking, biscuit eating red coats burned the White House does not mean you beat the U.S.

Ok searg...... roger over and out understood...now wheres my swat stick lol

 

[JIMBO43]

[h=3][/h][h=1]Malachi 3:15-18New King James Version (NKJV)[/h] [SUP]15 [/SUP]So now we call the proud blessed,
For those who do wickedness are raised up;
They even tempt God and go free.’”

[h=3]A Book of Remembrance[/h][SUP]16 [/SUP]Then those who feared the Lord spoke to one another,
And the Lord listened and heard them;
So a book of remembrance was written before Him
For those who fear the Lord
And who meditate on His name.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]“They shall be Mine,” says the Lord of hosts,
“On the day that I make them My jewels.[SUP][a] (The day of redemption is when you become a jewel and not before)[/SUP]

And I will spare them
As a man spares his own son who serves him.”
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Then you shall again discern
Between the righteous and the wicked,
Between one who serves God
And one who does not serve Him.


Now the question has God declared your jewel yet ?...

 

[valiant]

Malachi 3:15-18New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]15 [/SUP]So now we call the proud blessed,
For those who do wickedness are raised up;
They even tempt God and go free.’”

A Book of Remembrance

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Then those who feared the Lord spoke to one another,
And the Lord listened and heard them;
So a book of remembrance was written before Him
For those who fear the Lord
And who meditate on His name.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]“They shall be Mine,” says the Lord of hosts,
“On the day that I make them My jewels.[SUP][a] (The day of redemption is when you become a jewel and not before)[/SUP]

And I will spare them
As a man spares his own son who serves him.”
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Then you shall again discern
Between the righteous and the wicked,
Between one who serves God
And one who does not serve Him.


Now the question has God declared your jewel yet ?...

God making up His jewels comes long after they have become jewels. Every true believer is a jewel.

 

[JIMBO43]

You know theres devine hope and wonderful prayer in hoping to become a jewel... why take something like that away ?.

There is wonderful cousel to be had and rich blessing to be recieved isnt this something worth hoping for and meditating on the lord for..

Isnt this something that drives you on to keep the faith..

why does it have to anything else and something that we no longer hope for ?

 

[JIMBO43]

we are the jewels in the crown yes make no mistake that the saved are his jewel.. but you know when jewels are found even jewels haves to be polished to make thaem shine

 

[dcontroversal]

Oh for crying out loud!

I know.....maybe they should trust Jesus and get saved......imagine the ignorance......!

 

[dcontroversal]

Titus 3: 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but by his mercy HE SAVED US (done deal)

Romans 8:24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? (done deal)

Ephesians 2:5, 8-9 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), For by Grace YOU HAVE BEEN SAVED by faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, Not of works, lest anyone should boast. (again done deal)



Galatians 3:26
[ Sons and Heirs ] For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.

Galatians 4:6
And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!”



Work out your own salvation, It is yours, You have it, You have possession of it, YOU ARE SAVED.

Now work out what you have.

I find it amazing, the very verse you said proves we are not saved yet, proves we ARE SAVED. Those who are not yet saved, can not work out their salvation, they have to have it first.

I know....crazy.....how can John say....NOW ARE WE THE SONS OF GOD, BUT it doth not yet appear what we shall be if we are NOT presently saved.....

Blows my mind.....!

 

[JIMBO43]

maybe you should stop treating this as a faith only thread and have an open mind that faith and works go hand in hand like a horse and carriage.

 

[JIMBO43]

I know....crazy.....how can John say....NOW ARE WE THE SONS OF GOD, BUT it doth not yet appear what we shall be if we are NOT presently saved.....

Blows my mind.....!

Yep the saved are of God but you do know you can choose to fall like satan ?...

 

[dcontroversal]

You're still here spreading your hate so what's your point?

Funny thing....we have had is past tense<---as applied to the OP....no sense in responding....I could quote the entire bible verbatim and in context and there would be an argument......!

 

[dcontroversal]

Yep the saved are of God but you do know you can choose to fall like satan ?...

Not hardly....

I will NEVER LEAVE THEE OR FORSAKE THEE
JESUS WILL FINISH THE GOOD WORK THAT HE STARTED

The prodigal son was a son throughout the whole process......and very much alive!

 

[Sirk]

maybe you should stop treating this as a faith only thread and have an open mind that faith and works go hand in hand like a horse and carriage.

Or like a fly and poop. Maybe if my works are like that of a mustard seed I'll be good to go.

People always ask...what came first, the chicken or the egg. What they fail to consider is that chickens aren't the only ones that lay eggs.

 

[dcontroversal]

Or like a fly and poop. Maybe if my works are like that of a mustard seed I'll be good to go.

People always ask...what came first, the chicken or the egg. What they fail to consider is that chickens aren't the only ones that lay eggs.

I guess I forgot that this thread is a thread dedicated to the fact that believers fail and occasionally sin............not that we advocate willful sin or a lifestyle of sin......

 

[Sirk]

I guess I forgot that this thread is a thread dedicated to the fact that believers fail and occasionally sin............not that we advocate willful sin or a lifestyle of sin......

Isn't that the extreme they always take it to tho DC? It's like they have some obsession with bad behavior. Usually the most judgmental among us are the ones that are doing unspeakable things behind closed doors.

 

[JIMBO43]

HAHA not hardly right back at ya,,, Cause you can fall the bible says so Jesus said for you will all fall away.


And jesus comes and saves you befor you hit the deck...(saved again......)

 

[JIMBO43]

Isn't that the extreme they always take it to tho DC? It's like they have some obsession with bad behavior. Usually the most judgmental among us are the ones that are doing unspeakable things behind closed doors.

From where i stand what you did yesterday was extreme,, threantening suciside and making me feal guilty for something i hadnt caused and then laughing and joking about it...

Can you imagine what would have happend if you hadnt had wrote anything for days. eveyone would have hated me because of your sick antics and sick doctrins..

 

[Sirk]

From where i stand what you did yesterday was extreme,, threantening suciside and making me feal guilty for something i hadnt caused and then laughing and joking about it...

Can you imagine what would have happend if you hadnt had wrote anything for days. eveyone would have hated me because of your sick antics and sick doctrins..

I made you feel guilty? Wow....man...your criminal mind is showing. And I got your attention didn't I? Google what a Sirk is....only with a d

 

[JIMBO43]

i cant stress how low youve stooped dc siding with this mentality,, to me it seems your lack of hope has become your foolishness and your lack of gratefulness for the lords truth is evident.

The lack of works is eveident in you bro i only wish you put this to bed so you can be free of your endless doctrins of battle against those who believe in the works of christ..

 

[Sirk]

i cant stress how low youve stooped dc siding with this mentality,, to me it seems your lack of hope has become your foolishness and your lack of gratefulness for the lords truth is evident.

The lack of works is eveident in you bro i only wish you put this to bed so you can be free of your endless doctrins of battle against those who believe in the works of christ..

Why do you care so much if you're gonna be sitting at God's right hand anyway? Or are you just here to gloat about it?

 

[JIMBO43]

I made you feel guilty? Wow....man...your criminal mind is showing. And I got your attention didn't I? Google what a Sirk is.

I guess i should go and shoot my self in the head then... seeing as i have a criminal mind what chance do i have ?..

That to me is taking hope away claiming i dont have a new mind which is what you get when your saved.. so i may as well go and shoot myself then... sorry to say but you really are sick.. i mean spiritualy sick and hope is something you lack and you are in rebellion that you cant accept you havent been made perfect yet... the end Goal.... the jewel the end... may God bless you with this truth...
Cause even jesus had to wait 3 days befor he could ascend to heaven... i suppose you think youve allready beeen swallowed up by the fish to washed cleaned and go to heaven...