Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer

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wsblind

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Unfortunately this is not christian behaviour, to any degree.
Please tell me how the roman soldiers when they put the crown of thorns on
Christs head and bowed in mockery of Him were any different to your behaviour.

The enemy will always encourage you to get more and more blasphemous in your
behaviour as your anger and bitterness grows. How you ended up in this sorry
state I can only imagine, but it brings no praise to our King and Lord.
Why did that touch a nerve?

I constantly catch myself putting me ahead of God. And have to re-order things.

You don't?
 
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wsblind

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Are you that dense....serious....HOW many times do WE ALL have to post that we DO serve, we DO love the truth, we DO walk according to the word, we DO attempt to walk HOLY........and the WILL OF THE FATHER IS TO BELIEVE ON JESUS...IT IS NOT BASED ON OUR WORKS DUDE!

YET WE ALL FAIL AND SIN JUST LIKE THE MEN OF THE BIBLE<--CAN YOU SEE THIS AND READ THIS!
What? What did you say?
 
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That's the smartest thing you may have ever said, and yet, once again, you missed the entire point of my post. I didn't post that to show I'm trying to score points and earn my salvation, I wrote it because you believe a few of us here don't have faith in Christ, which shows how utterly ignorant and self righteous you are; so much so that its astonishing.
Utah - In all honesty if you reject you need to be pure before the Lord, what have
you got but an empty gospel.

Purity is about being washed clean, purified, holy. Without that we are not saved,
we have not entered into the Holy of Holies, or had Christ dwell within us.

We know one stain, one blemish is enough to be rejected by the King.
One small lie, killed Ananias and Saphara. A miss-placed aspiration almost killed
Simon the Sorcerer.

Some find it hard to separate out that which is a biological response and what is
chosen fantasy and addiction. It can be so embedded in us we do not separate our
addictions from who we are, yet God sees the difference. And there is always
resolution if we are prepared to humble ourselves and seek resolution and forgiveness.
I know this myself, and how long it can take to get Gods perspective on where we are.

But my goal is always to walk closer to my King and find His ways in my life.
I would hope this is the passion of all believers, and not I am an enemy, because this
speaks of something else entirely.

It is ironic, one issue of being faithful to Jesus is to be rejected and mocked, but from
those who claim to follow Him, unexpected. But maybe people are not as open to the
Lord as they claim.
 
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The sky is blue....

What? The sky is not green...every one knows the sky is blue.
 
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All I know is, there are professing Christians in this thread who are standing on some pretty dangerous ground. The one recurring theme in virtually all of their posts is their fingers pointing at someone else and I've yet to see even a smidgeon of humility from any of them..,.but instead, they put themselves above. They all need to take an anger management class and learn what abuse is and what it looks like. They clothe themselves in light but their spirits stink to high heaven.
We are right in the middle of satans ace trump. the professing christians will focus on the "sinning" christain and call them professing christians.

Because they are counting on their "cleaned up" life for their salvation.

We are going to be shocked to ask Hitler where Mother T is when we get to the eternal state. Tongue in cheek, to make a point.
 
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Utah - In all honesty if you reject you need to be pure before the Lord, what have
you got but an empty gospel.

Purity is about being washed clean, purified, holy. Without that we are not saved,
we have not entered into the Holy of Holies, or had Christ dwell within us.

We know one stain, one blemish is enough to be rejected by the King.
One small lie, killed Ananias and Saphara. A miss-placed aspiration almost killed
Simon the Sorcerer.

Some find it hard to separate out that which is a biological response and what is
chosen fantasy and addiction. It can be so embedded in us we do not separate our
addictions from who we are, yet God sees the difference. And there is always
resolution if we are prepared to humble ourselves and seek resolution and forgiveness.
I know this myself, and how long it can take to get Gods perspective on where we are.

But my goal is always to walk closer to my King and find His ways in my life.
I would hope this is the passion of all believers, and not I am an enemy, because this
speaks of something else entirely.

It is ironic, one issue of being faithful to Jesus is to be rejected and mocked, but from
those who claim to follow Him, unexpected. But maybe people are not as open to the
Lord as they claim.
Im sorry. Maybe I need to change my tact and consider that I'm dealing with a special needs child of God.
 
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Are you that dense....serious....HOW many times do WE ALL have to post that we DO serve, we DO love the truth, we DO walk according to the word, we DO attempt to walk HOLY........and the WILL OF THE FATHER IS TO BELIEVE ON JESUS...IT IS NOT BASED ON OUR WORKS DUDE!

YET WE ALL FAIL AND SIN JUST LIKE THE MEN OF THE BIBLE<--CAN YOU SEE THIS AND READ THIS!
Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
Matt 7:24

Gods will, Jesus's will is to put Jesus's words into practice.

If you say it is just believing in Jesus but disobeying his words, you have just failed.

If I told you to pass the driving test you needed to learn to drive a car, and you
just sat in the car with the examiner and did nothing, you would fail.

Believing the words means learning how to drive a car so you can pass the test.

Ofcourse we fail, which is why we repent, confess and get right with God.
And yes I am just like men in the bible, but I still walk in purity, righteousness and love.

Now I know your hearts are hard, because you do not understand what I am saying.
It is so plain and simple yet you have closed ears and eyes.

And my friend, I cannot change what the Lord has made me, because that would be sin,
and to deny it would be sin, so I just praise God for His love for us all.

And for me it seems your claims to walk in Gods will has failed because you mock and reject
my simple contributions. But this is a testimony that will stand, and demonstrate where you
are in your spiritual walk.

Teaching - I shared in our house group last night that Jesus said it was better to not marry.
I was told Jesus did not say this, yet He did. Now how do I respond. Point out the truth or
stay quiet. My best response is to quote the scripture, not because I am point scoring, but
standing in tesimony to the truth of Gods word.

The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”
Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given.
Matt 19:10-11

But equally I am being accused of the same thing. And I respond the same way quoting Gods word.
I am not better or worse than anybody, I am always a sinner saved by grace, learning my Lords way.
 
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I prayed for most of the night, and have this to tell you.

I prayed to God that He allow me to be present near Christ when you appear before Him on the day of Atonement. I want to be there, for when I see you approaching, I will turn to Christ and say: "That's him Lord, I ask You to remember what You prayed to the Father when You were on the Cross........Father forgive them, for they know not what they do. This is my prayer to you Lord, please forgive him, for he knew not what he was doing."

I sincerely hope He grants me this plea.

However, until that time comes, unless you admit your sin and ask forgiveness for slandering the millions of Members of the Church of God Reformation Movement, I will neither speak to you, or even recognize your very existence. Should God open your eyes and heart to understanding your sin against millions of His children, and you do ask for forgiveness, I will gladly forgive you, and praise God!

Through prayer, I have come to believe you do not actually know the gravity of the sin you committed against so very many of His children, and that is truly a sad thing. You are a Brother in Arms, and because of that, I have always bent over backwards to give you far more grace from me for the terrible things you say about people who disagree with your ideology. Far more than I would extend to any other here.

I have no idea if the Holy Spirit will move upon you or not, but I assure you this, even if God does not grant my request, on that day of Atonement, your words will be read to you, and you will answer for them. That is what frightens me, and why I pray that I am allowed to be there to ask Christ to forgive your words against His children.

Father Lord, this is my plea to You in the name of Jesus Christ..............
Congratulations Paul on posting the most arrogant, ill-contrived words in CC history.

You prayed that God will have you sit at His right hand in an effort to show dominance and false humility towards DC while making an effort to show your self righteousness.

You actually believe Jesus needs you to remind Him of something? Of ANYTHING! Your heart reeks of slander, arrogance and hatred towards one of God's beloved who understands his need for grace.

If DC didn't know what he was doing then he is already forgiven, and God doesn't need your filthy-rag assistance in calling the shots regarding forgiveness and salvation, or anything else for that matter.

You stated that you want to entice God to forgive DC yet in the very same post you're declaring that you won't forgive DC if he doesn't apologize. You believe DC does not know the gravity of his "sin" yet you don't forgive him! Stupid most definitely is, what stupid does. Must be an Alabama thing.

God O' Mighty I can't believe the sheer stupidity and un-Christ-like behavior of some Pharisees, and that includes you, Paul.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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BTW Dman, you need to get with your buddy Grateful.......he has a thread going where he says a person DOES NOT have to repent and ASK FOR FORGIVENESS for their sins AFTER THE FIRST TIME...........

Mayhaps you can "school" him a wee bit eh?

too............too.......funny


Oh, and for not saying what I said you did.........

SIMPLE QUESTION

A person believes that they can turn from God, sin, and refuse to repent and ask forgiveness, and lose their salvation if they die in their unrepentant state.....................

Are they false teachers and borderline liars?

YES

NO

simple question

why do you think people can be saved and never repent?

You want to repent over and over? How do you do that?

Oh that,s right, You want to humanize God and make him not know future things,, I mean he can know what will happen centuries in advance and prophesy, But he do not know what I will do 30 years from now after he saves e.

Yeah, Whatever,,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Very true..........John 3:16 is the best example though.............BUT.........THAT IS NOT THE END OF THE STORY is it?

:)

"HAS ETERNAL LIFE"


Yep, End of story., Oh thats right, Eternal is not eternal.. Did we not speak about this earlier in this thread Dcon?? whyu do people still not get it?.
 
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Im sorry. Maybe I need to change my tact and consider that I'm dealing with a special needs child of God.
Thankyou for this. I enjoy being a special needs child of God, Amen, what a blessing,
that He counts me worthy of His love and taking me from a place of sin and death into
His glorious Kingdom.

And in this I rejoice, that though I was blind, deaf and dumb He opened up my heart,
taught me how to love, to care, to speak, to share, and to praise His Holy Name.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I prayed for most of the night, and have this to tell you.

I prayed to God that He allow me to be present near Christ when you appear before Him on the day of Atonement. I want to be there, for when I see you approaching, I will turn to Christ and say: "That's him Lord, I ask You to remember what You prayed to the Father when You were on the Cross........Father forgive them, for they know not what they do. This is my prayer to you Lord, please forgive him, for he knew not what he was doing."

I sincerely hope He grants me this plea.

However, until that time comes, unless you admit your sin and ask forgiveness for slandering the millions of Members of the Church of God Reformation Movement, I will neither speak to you, or even recognize your very existence. Should God open your eyes and heart to understanding your sin against millions of His children, and you do ask for forgiveness, I will gladly forgive you, and praise God!

Through prayer, I have come to believe you do not actually know the gravity of the sin you committed against so very many of His children, and that is truly a sad thing. You are a Brother in Arms, and because of that, I have always bent over backwards to give you far more grace from me for the terrible things you say about people who disagree with your ideology. Far more than I would extend to any other here.

I have no idea if the Holy Spirit will move upon you or not, but I assure you this, even if God does not grant my request, on that day of Atonement, your words will be read to you, and you will answer for them. That is what frightens me, and why I pray that I am allowed to be there to ask Christ to forgive your words against His children.

Father Lord, this is my plea to You in the name of Jesus Christ..............

Again, this is the strict definition of a straw man.

Because we can have the same dream about this man, and hope it is true..

of course, it is also one of the most arrogant comments I have seen, The elephant man just JUDGED Dcon as being unsaved, He declared himself to be God in this statement..

for one who likes to demand apologizes, You should be on your knees apologizing now..

Of course, like I am sure Dcon understands, We forgave you before you even judged us,, That is how God rolls. and we are told to be like God. so your forgiven, No need to appologise if you do not wish,, We still love ya.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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So I assume you do not believe the following applies

1 Corinthians 3:11-15 (NKJV)
11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

I have lost the plot a little in this thread.

Maybe you enlighten me as to what you are getting upset about, so much so you needed to post your prayer.
He is against those who preach eternal security in christ. (or what he calls OSAS)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Man! It's a good day when Pharisees are sent back to the drawing board....or weirdo school. Lol
it would be a better day if they became like Paul. repented. and became great spiritual leaders.
 
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I wrote it because you believe a few of us here don't have faith in Christ
Utah - I wish I could hug you, and say God bless you.

I have no clue as to why you want to say stuff the way you do.
Does it help you? Is this how you minister to the elderly people in the care home?
I am sure they agree with everything you say, because to not agree would certainly be a place
they do not want to go.

And I know you have faith in Christ, gone to theological college, are astute and able to share
much, yet when it comes to walking in purity, a big question mark.

It not just ruffles your feathers, it makes you angry. So if the Lord points out areas of your life
He desires you work on, is this the reaction you give him? Unfortunately I would suggest it is
simply because how full frontal you became. Even confrontational. If we were face to face,
it would be total aggression. So I know what you meant, but praise God, I am thousands of
miles away, and I can talk about God calling us to purity, and you cannot burn me on a stake
as a hypocrite.

But does not this whole emotional cycle not bother you. It is so far away from the Holiness
and presence of the Spirit you could get. But then why am I trying to communicate with you
on this level, because you will probably just attempt to chew me up again.

If you were clued up, you would understand if one word creates a massive response it means
something in your life is out of order, is wounded and sore, needs addressing.

God bless you, wherever God may find you, Peter
 
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"HAS ETERNAL LIFE"


Yep, End of story., Oh thats right, Eternal is not eternal.. Did we not speak about this earlier in this thread Dcon?? whyu do people still not get it?.
Yeah I don't know other than false religion-ism and a lack of understanding....

I take Jesus at his word....He said...He that believes has everlasting life....end of story for me...I believe...so...I have everlasting life....eternal life....<--the simplicity that is found in Jesus.....
 
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Thankyou for this. I enjoy being a special needs child of God, Amen, what a blessing,
that He counts me worthy of His love and taking me from a place of sin and death into
His glorious Kingdom.

And in this I rejoice, that though I was blind, deaf and dumb He opened up my heart,
taught me how to love, to care, to speak, to share, and to praise His Holy Name.
yes Peter. You're purity is evident.
 
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Again, this is the strict definition of a straw man.

Because we can have the same dream about this man, and hope it is true..

of course, it is also one of the most arrogant comments I have seen, The elephant man just JUDGED Dcon as being unsaved, He declared himself to be God in this statement..

for one who likes to demand apologizes, You should be on your knees apologizing now..

Of course, like I am sure Dcon understands, We forgave you before you even judged us,, That is how God rolls. and we are told to be like God. so your forgiven, No need to appologise if you do not wish,, We still love ya.
Amen to that....and If one will go back and read....anytime I have stepped over the line I have been willing to apologize openly....no problem with that at all....but when I get accused of something I did not do and or motive attributed to me that I did not have at the time I wrote the OP....I feel no need to apologize....

Nor will I EVER apologize for the truth.....ever!
 
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why do you think people can be saved and never repent?

You want to repent over and over? How do you do that?

Oh that,s right, You want to humanize God and make him not know future things,, I mean he can know what will happen centuries in advance and prophesy, But he do not know what I will do 30 years from now after he saves e.

Yeah, Whatever,,
My question is simple...those who say they never sin sure seem to push repentance a lot and repenting over and over a lot.....WHY if they never sin and or walk holy all the time?
 

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Purity is not what saves us. Grace through faith does that. :) And how does "one stain" separate us from God? We ALL have sins, or stains, whatever word you prefer. The ONLY thing that separates us from God, is denying Him outright.. All we need do is repent our sins, and we are made stain-less once again. Kind of like jumping in a puddle, getting all muddy, taking a bath and doing it all over again. LOL.. No matter how many times we get stained, God's forgiveness cleans us up.. :) jmo



Utah - In all honesty if you reject you need to be pure before the Lord, what have
you got but an empty gospel.

Purity is about being washed clean, purified, holy. Without that we are not saved,
we have not entered into the Holy of Holies, or had Christ dwell within us.

We know one stain, one blemish is enough to be rejected by the King.
One small lie, killed Ananias and Saphara. A miss-placed aspiration almost killed
Simon the Sorcerer.

Some find it hard to separate out that which is a biological response and what is
chosen fantasy and addiction. It can be so embedded in us we do not separate our
addictions from who we are, yet God sees the difference. And there is always
resolution if we are prepared to humble ourselves and seek resolution and forgiveness.
I know this myself, and how long it can take to get Gods perspective on where we are.

But my goal is always to walk closer to my King and find His ways in my life.
I would hope this is the passion of all believers, and not I am an enemy, because this
speaks of something else entirely.

It is ironic, one issue of being faithful to Jesus is to be rejected and mocked, but from
those who claim to follow Him, unexpected. But maybe people are not as open to the
Lord as they claim.