Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer
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if you take that question all the way to its end...it is a sin for you not to give away everything you own. To completely sacrifice yourself for another. Thats what Jesus did. Can you do that? Can you give up your life? Walk away from your mother your brother and your sister? The reality is that Jesus did it so you wouldn't have too....not that you could anyway. You get to live out your life, find joy, find a mate, have children, play games and laugh and make memories with those you love. To compare yourself to Jesus is the ultimate irony.
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Here is the difference my friend
You said the post is about denying sin.
Yes, We both would teach that we should deny sin, and learn to live a life of Christ.
The heat begins when one group say WE DO NOT DENY SIN, or think it is necessary (which is not true) and they say if you do not deny sin you wil not be saved.
They are arguing we love sin,, Yet they deny sin, which in reality, means they refuse to deny sin themselves.
The argument is against the works based self righteous gospel of saving yourself. vs the gospel of grace..
Again, I direct you to peters thread on is the cross enough.. You will see what the issue is..
You said the post is about denying sin.
Yes, We both would teach that we should deny sin, and learn to live a life of Christ.
The heat begins when one group say WE DO NOT DENY SIN, or think it is necessary (which is not true) and they say if you do not deny sin you wil not be saved.
They are arguing we love sin,, Yet they deny sin, which in reality, means they refuse to deny sin themselves.
The argument is against the works based self righteous gospel of saving yourself. vs the gospel of grace..
Again, I direct you to peters thread on is the cross enough.. You will see what the issue is..
***By good works do you mean being fruitful (John 15) ---if we are attached to the Vine we will produce fruit---if we are unfruitful it is because we cease to abide in the Vine and we could be cast away as a dead branch---some will debate that if they are unfruitful it is because they were never saved----some would debate that you can't be detached from the Vine once you are saved----I always hope for the best, but prepare for the worst-----I never tell people that they cannot lose their salvation---I think only two people know if that is true-- You and Christ---with all the warnings in the Bible----having your name blotted out----better if you had not been born than to turn from the way of righteousness, ect. I always tell people to be faithful---if they sin---repent---and keep going...