Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer

[mj007]

eternally-gratefull, What is it you are so angry about in life? What made you angry? You may say that others are to blame for your reactions, but you know in yourself that it comes from you. Maybe if we step outside of this undying argument, we might better understand you. You don't have to answer my questions but, I think it would be helpful that's all.

 

[JIMBO43]

Doesn't God correct those He loves? Or does he throw those he loves in the garbage can?

Thats bewteen you and him mate hes allready told you that...

 

[mj007]

What is love? From your perspective.

Doesn't God correct those He loves? Or does he throw those he loves in the garbage can?

 

[Sirk]

Jesus wasnt afraid of that,, he was more afraid for there souls..

He might have it no question there,,, but dont you think his intension was to save not even thinking i must offend them to get nailed to the cross..

Mate are you on meds ?

He already knew their souls were doomed. He was on a mission to die for you. He used their wicked hearts for just that purpose. What part of Jesus came to die don't you grasp? He repeatedly told them that they weren't in need of a doctor.

And no...I do not take any meds. I haven't for years. I used to take a zoloft for depression. You happy now?

 

[Sirk]

What is love? From your perspective.

There are at least 3 kinds of love. Godly, brotherly and physical attraction kind of love. Which one do you want me to comment on?

 

[mj007]

Just in your words, not analysis.

There are at least 3 kinds of love. Godly, brotherly and physical attraction kind of love. Which one do you want me to comment on?

 

[JIMBO43]

He already knew their souls were doomed. He was on a mission to die for you. He used their wicked hearts for just that purpose. What part of Jesus came to die don't you grasp? He repeatedly told them that they weren't in need of a doctor.

And no...I do not take any meds. I haven't for years. I used to take a zoloft for depression. You happy now?

Maybe you need to back on them if your feeling hurt for me questioning your strange beliefs ?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

eternally-gratefull, What is it you are so angry about in life? What made you angry? You may say that others are to blame for your reactions, but you know in yourself that it comes from you. Maybe if we step outside of this undying argument, we might better understand you. You don't have to answer my questions but, I think it would be helpful that's all.

You know me how?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

so no one has an answer to my question?

Wonder why that is? (I believe the answer is what seperates us)

 

[mj007]

Like I said you do not have to answer.

You know me how?

 

[Sirk]

Just in your words, not analysis.

10 years ago on March 20th my son was born. When I saw him for the first time and held him in my arms it was the first time in my life that I realized how much God loves me. That if I could be so captivated by this beautiful little boy....how much more does an infinite all knowing all powerful God love me.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Like I said you do not have to answer.

Answer what? Maybe you can answer how you know me? so you know how I am or what I am doing?

Can you answer my questions?

 

[JIMBO43]

welll its getting late so im off goodnight and God bless yas

Ive learnt alot from this thread it seems we are in a world full of people that dont understand each other....it just like the bible says it is when the bible says we will all speak in diffrent lauguages..... and we will not understand each other lol.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

welll its getting late so im off goodnight and God bless yas

Ive learnt alot from this thread it seems we are in a world full of people that dont understand each other....it just like the bible says it is when the bible says we will all speak in diffrent lauguages..... and we will not understand each other lol.

So you can't answer?

Thanks.. that tells me a lot.

 

[Sirk]

So you can't answer?

Thanks.. that tells me a lot.

I will answer any question that anyone on this forum poses to me honestly and openly....and I've see you do the same.

 

[mj007]

So if you think about that moment, which was very uplifting for you, and you bring that moment into this moment, would you say that you are speaking in the same way you felt in that moment you recall? I mean for example, say your son is here watching this discussion, would you say you set a good example to him in your words and how you might speak and respond to people here? We all have infinite perspectives inside us. When your son was born you saw God's perspective which became a part of you. And that perspective is always there, don't you think?

10 years ago on March 20th my son was born. When I saw him for the first time and held him in my arms it was the first time in my life that I realized how much God loves me. That if I could be so captivated by this beautiful little boy....how much more does an infinite all knowing all powerful God love me.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I will answer any question that anyone on this forum poses to me honestly and openly....and I've see you do the same.

the sad part is, if we can not answer, we would seek it.. and not just let it sit there.. If the fact we can not answer a simple question does not convict us, I wonder what will?

 

[Sirk]

So if you think about that moment, which was very uplifting for you, and you bring that moment into this moment, would you say that you are speaking in the same way you felt in that moment you recall? I mean for example, say your son is here watching this discussion, would you say you set a good example to him in your words and how you might speak and respond to people here? We all have infinite perspectives inside us. When your son was born you saw God's perspective which became a part of you. And that perspective is always there, don't you think?

I somewhat agree. I am always thinking about how my behavior is affecting his attitude about life. And sometimes I fail. It was a rough week this week in that regard. I had to humbly apologize to him and seek his forgiveness. As far as this discussion goes. There are adult things that I don't speak with my son about. Causing a child to unnecessarily worry or to put them in positions where they feel they have to "fix" something is not fair to a child. A child should be able to enjoy being a child without adult stress or problems. Funny...because we discovered that he is so hard on himself because I am hard on myself when I don't do things perfectly and beat myself up. I am currently trying to decipher if it is an inherited "sin" or if I showed it to him in some way thru my own behavior.


That said, I have been open and laid my heart bare. If someone judges me or tries to "fix" me...you might get a horn in you sternum. Lol Just sayin. Haha

 

[PeterJens]

I asked if a person can be saved and not do good works..

good works.. james 2..

it is not a difficult question

It is impossible for someone to be born into the Kingdom of heaven and walk with Christ
properly and not do good works. For some it can take some time, for others it is almost
instant. The basis of the Kingdom is love, and when love sees a need it can meet it meets
it. Does a duck quack or a chicken cluck? Always, it is part of who they are.

The deeper question is can someone come to faith and then be led astray.

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
1 Tim 4:1

So holding the faith is being born again. And here are people abandoning
the faith. Important stuff.

 

[PeterJens]

the sad part is, if we can not answer, we would seek it.. and not just let it sit there.. If the fact we can not answer a simple question does not convict us, I wonder what will?

Why are you trying to convert me and not let God lead me into His ways?
You claim to love me, yet in the past you have said you wanted to destroy me, why was that?