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all the moon rocks actually given out to nations by NASA were around 1 gram ((but the petrified wood wrongfully claimed to be a moon rock by a senile ex-politician, not received by NASA but by an ambassador, is over 89 grams)).
they were all encased in plastic, not glued to paper cards.
the actual moon rocks given to the Netherlands is still in their national museum. this is a picture of it:
the geology of these samples cannot be faked.
which is exactly why we know that the petrified wood is not a moon rock -- we have actual moon rocks, so we know what they should look like, and how they are different compared to any earth rock.
think about that.
using this mistake as some kind of supposed "evidence" that the apollo program wasn't real is like pointing at a hypocritical pharisee or a pagan false prophet and saying that proves God doesn't exist.
flawed reasoning.
that one person lies is not proof that there is no such thing as truth.
they were all encased in plastic, not glued to paper cards.
the actual moon rocks given to the Netherlands is still in their national museum. this is a picture of it:
the geology of these samples cannot be faked.
which is exactly why we know that the petrified wood is not a moon rock -- we have actual moon rocks, so we know what they should look like, and how they are different compared to any earth rock.
think about that.
using this mistake as some kind of supposed "evidence" that the apollo program wasn't real is like pointing at a hypocritical pharisee or a pagan false prophet and saying that proves God doesn't exist.
flawed reasoning.
that one person lies is not proof that there is no such thing as truth.
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NASA never "changed their story"
NASA never gave that particular rock to the old senile politician, an ambassador did.
the museum, 30 years later, after receiving the rock from the old guy's grandchildren, called NASA on the phone, and NASA said "it's possible" without ever seeing the rock that a rock was given to him. that was the sum total of the "vetting"
and then the press took off with the story, writing clickbait sensational headlines.
and then you, snagged by the clickbait, took off with it, molding it to fit your own preconceived narrative.
so pckts,
i read some false prophesy on the LDS mormon website.
does that mean that there is no such thing as God?
because that's the logic you are using.
NASA never gave that particular rock to the old senile politician, an ambassador did.
the museum, 30 years later, after receiving the rock from the old guy's grandchildren, called NASA on the phone, and NASA said "it's possible" without ever seeing the rock that a rock was given to him. that was the sum total of the "vetting"
and then the press took off with the story, writing clickbait sensational headlines.
and then you, snagged by the clickbait, took off with it, molding it to fit your own preconceived narrative.
so pckts,
i read some false prophesy on the LDS mormon website.
does that mean that there is no such thing as God?
because that's the logic you are using.
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There is a lot of shenanigans with the moon rocks. The majority of them are reported by NASA to have gone "missing".
NASA uses a similar tactic with the moon footage because they officially admit it was "erased" from the tapes it was recorded on.
The entire organization is full of it and use every lie they can to cover their tracks.
Article about them erasing the footage:Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits | Reuters
here's a good start to the reading you ought to do to answer that question:
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/howdoweknow.htm
if you're feeling more adventurous,
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/1999JE001128/epdf
let me know what flaws you see in that paper ↑
of course, if your google is broken ((e.g. only shows results from a certain youtube playlist)), let me know too, and i'll use my own, properly working search engines, and return some results for you
I know the earth is flat because when I put a round marble down. The marble does not roll.
I know the earth is round. While out in the ocean on my boat. My radar may only reach out to 5 miles at sea level. This due to the earth being round. Could it be that this is because there is always a swell coming at me
I know the earth is round. While out in the ocean on my boat. My radar may only reach out to 5 miles at sea level. This due to the earth being round.
Could it be that this is because there is always a swell coming at me 
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Shaq is a flat earther now.
[video=youtube;bGVtC52XjIg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGVtC52XjIg[/video]
And idk if anyone has this guilty pleasure, but so does AJ Styles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzkgBXvf0Z0
I'm in no way posting this as evidence or anything, I just want you to know there are famous "crazies" too
[video=youtube;bGVtC52XjIg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGVtC52XjIg[/video]
And idk if anyone has this guilty pleasure, but so does AJ Styles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzkgBXvf0Z0
I'm in no way posting this as evidence or anything, I just want you to know there are famous "crazies" too
Shaq is a flat earther now.
[video=youtube;bGVtC52XjIg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGVtC52XjIg[/video]
And idk if anyone has this guilty pleasure, but so does AJ Styles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzkgBXvf0Z0
I'm in no way posting this as evidence or anything, I just want you to know there are famous "crazies" too
[video=youtube;bGVtC52XjIg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGVtC52XjIg[/video]
And idk if anyone has this guilty pleasure, but so does AJ Styles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzkgBXvf0Z0
I'm in no way posting this as evidence or anything, I just want you to know there are famous "crazies" too
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I am bumping this. Never got a response from the flat-earthers --
Also, I was talking to my New Zealand friend just a couple of days ago by phone and brought up this 'flat earth' topic...and he said any number of his friends from there have noticed in their travels to North America...that the moon's features are "upside down" compared to what they see when they are in New Zealand.
Sure enough, I went on the Internet just last night and...there it was -- more irrefutable evidence for a globe:
The way this works is that on a globe, New Zealanders are standing 'upside down' in relation to North Americans and we North Americans are standing 'upside down' in relation to New Zealanders! See the graphic below:
On an alleged "flat earth" there is no way and no how that could ever be. You would NOT see the features of the moon right side up in North America...and then upside down in New Zealand.
That could ONLY happen on a globe. Again, these are commonly observable facts...apparently noticed by HUGE numbers of ordinary people. I had never given this a second thought. But now that the subject of flat earth has come up...the evidences for a sphere are bursting at the seams.
Sure enough, I went on the Internet just last night and...there it was -- more irrefutable evidence for a globe:
The way this works is that on a globe, New Zealanders are standing 'upside down' in relation to North Americans and we North Americans are standing 'upside down' in relation to New Zealanders! See the graphic below:
On an alleged "flat earth" there is no way and no how that could ever be. You would NOT see the features of the moon right side up in North America...and then upside down in New Zealand.
That could ONLY happen on a globe. Again, these are commonly observable facts...apparently noticed by HUGE numbers of ordinary people. I had never given this a second thought. But now that the subject of flat earth has come up...the evidences for a sphere are bursting at the seams.
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On the flat earth model, we see the moon the way we see this light
If I was standing on side of the room (or the USA), and you were standing on the other side of the room (New Zealand),
we would be staring at the same object/light source, but seeing the image flipped due to our perspective on the flat ground. The phases of the moon on the flat earth are accounted for by other orbiting object or objects, rather than the shadow of the earth.
The blood moon that happened in 2016 or 15 idr recently also makes more sense on a model other than globe earth. The news will explain away every biblical omen with false science and the masses will ignore every warning as natural phenomenon.
If I was standing on side of the room (or the USA), and you were standing on the other side of the room (New Zealand),
we would be staring at the same object/light source, but seeing the image flipped due to our perspective on the flat ground. The phases of the moon on the flat earth are accounted for by other orbiting object or objects, rather than the shadow of the earth.
The blood moon that happened in 2016 or 15 idr recently also makes more sense on a model other than globe earth. The news will explain away every biblical omen with false science and the masses will ignore every warning as natural phenomenon.
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On the flat earth model, we see the moon the way we see this light
If I was standing on side of the room (or the USA), and you were standing on the other side of the room (New Zealand),
we would be staring at the same object/light source, but seeing the image flipped due to our perspective on the flat ground. The phases of the moon on the flat earth are accounted for by other orbiting object or objects, rather than the shadow of the earth.
The blood moon that happened in 2016 or 15 idr recently also makes more sense on a model other than globe earth. The news will explain away every biblical omen with false science and the masses will ignore every warning as natural phenomenon.
If I was standing on side of the room (or the USA), and you were standing on the other side of the room (New Zealand),
we would be staring at the same object/light source, but seeing the image flipped due to our perspective on the flat ground. The phases of the moon on the flat earth are accounted for by other orbiting object or objects, rather than the shadow of the earth.
The blood moon that happened in 2016 or 15 idr recently also makes more sense on a model other than globe earth. The news will explain away every biblical omen with false science and the masses will ignore every warning as natural phenomenon.
If we were actually standing on a flat plane and watching the moon floating by...at NO time would you or I see an "upside down" moon compared to one another. Utterly nonsensical. There is ZERO explanation from any flat-earther as to why New Zealanders see an "upside down" moon compared to what we would see in Seattle.
Not to mention....if the moon is supposedly orbiting around an alleged flat dish earth roughly along the lines of the equator...why wouldn't billions of people who live outside of the moon's travel path see the back side of the moon?
Or if the moon is supposedly a transparent disc of some sort...why wouldn't those billions of people see a mirror image of the moon's features?
OR...if we're asked to believe the moon travels on a path pretty much smack up against the dome glass (or whatever these people would call it) and many thousands of miles "south" of the equator, therefore supposedly preventing folks from seeing the moon's backside...how in the world would Alaskans or northern Europeans ever see so much as a tiny speck of a moon??
We're asked to believe that as soon as the sun travels a few thousand miles downrange on this alleged flat earth, that it turns into a tiny speck and disappears 'over the horizon'. Really? So then I ask again -- how in the world would (for example) Alaskans or northern Europeans (take a look at one of these silly concocted "flat earth maps" on Google Image) ever catch even the tiniest glimpse of the moon? Impossible, when you apply their "disappearing sun" explanations.
Not to mention ALSO...and again take a look at one of these concocted flat earth maps...assuming flat-earthers claim the moon travels around the outer edges of this "flat earth" disc (so as to explain why no one sees the back side of the moon or a 'mirror image' of the moon)...
...southern Australians, therefore, should see an absolutely gargantuan monstrous moon, many many times the size of what people should see who are located thousands upon thousands of miles further away from the moon's alleged travel path across this alleged "flat earth" disc -- LOL.
You can drive a ten ton truck through the hundreds of gaps in the "flat earth" theory.
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I gave an explanation for this and you rejected it without being able to expose one of these ten ton truck gaps in it. You just say no in different ways without saying why.
The moon is an object that gives off cold light and it is indeed transparent. You can also see it during the daytime and it and the sun at the same time on a regular if not everyday basis. It could appear the way it does in the USA and New Zealand on a flat plane factoring all of that in using a "disc"(IDK what it is) rather than the moon you are familiar with that is a ball shaped rock that gets it's light from the sun and phases from the earth's shadow.
The moon is an object that gives off cold light and it is indeed transparent. You can also see it during the daytime and it and the sun at the same time on a regular if not everyday basis. It could appear the way it does in the USA and New Zealand on a flat plane factoring all of that in using a "disc"(IDK what it is) rather than the moon you are familiar with that is a ball shaped rock that gets it's light from the sun and phases from the earth's shadow.
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I personally have subscribed to this model of the moon:
Video will begin at live model demonstration of it-
[video]https://youtu.be/dLvcjgOGs9s?t=4m18s[/video]
It's not a disc, but a concave bowl shape that produces it's own light AND reflects the sun's to produce the phases. It essentially casts and displays it's own shadow as a source of time for us.
Video will begin at live model demonstration of it-
[video]https://youtu.be/dLvcjgOGs9s?t=4m18s[/video]
It's not a disc, but a concave bowl shape that produces it's own light AND reflects the sun's to produce the phases. It essentially casts and displays it's own shadow as a source of time for us.
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this would make the moons phases flipped for the southern hemisphere.
when the moon is full north of the equator, then it would be new south of the equator - the 'dark side' of the moon would be facing them.
think about what would be seen from the equator ((hint: it's a problem for you))
but the whole earth sees the same phases at all times.
also we would not see the same face all the time - the 'outside' of the bowl would be sunlit during every period other than a full moon, so some observers would be seeing half-moons ((the profile of the bowl)), with a different topography, at all times of the lunar cycle, depending on where they are.
you've also got a problem with how the moon is visible during daylight - which it is, roughly the same number of days per month as it is visible during the night.
and a problem with eclipses.
((debunked))
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