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Drawing Near to God
7Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you.
Draw near you sinners <<<<<even me>>>>>>.......
You can do it by praying communion,,,, hope...
Context of this scripture is if youve revcieved salvation why are we instructed to draw near...
surely you cant get any nearer than being saved ?......
Oh wait a minute the answer will be this is talking to the unsaved only ?
what are you saying that your sin daily is not like them who sin daily.. ? wouldnt that be an excuse ?...
7Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you.
Draw near you sinners <<<<<even me>>>>>>.......
You can do it by praying communion,,,, hope...
Context of this scripture is if youve revcieved salvation why are we instructed to draw near...
surely you cant get any nearer than being saved ?......
Oh wait a minute the answer will be this is talking to the unsaved only ?
what are you saying that your sin daily is not like them who sin daily.. ? wouldnt that be an excuse ?...
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What is mildly amusing to me is the use of the word nonsense.
Non - without, sense - sense
Now if someone was obviously saying something that did not make any sense
this would be fine, but actually it is just a way of putting someone down and
being rude. Both points of view often expressed make sense in their context,
so saying nonsense is not appropriate. Or even evil, demon inspired etc.
Most things that are demon inspired are seriously sick and distorted, and it
is very obvious.
What is less hard to spot is hard hearted attitudes or just stubboness.
People can appear very nice and civil and then on certain issues just incapable
of seeing another perspective. And sometimes they will claim there is only one
legitimate view, when this is clearly not the case.
This is when the terms come in which describe this uncooperative behaviour
and frustration maybe appropriate. But then again, if it is just a wind up and
people being intentionally biased it is time to walk away.
Non - without, sense - sense
Now if someone was obviously saying something that did not make any sense
this would be fine, but actually it is just a way of putting someone down and
being rude. Both points of view often expressed make sense in their context,
so saying nonsense is not appropriate. Or even evil, demon inspired etc.
Most things that are demon inspired are seriously sick and distorted, and it
is very obvious.
What is less hard to spot is hard hearted attitudes or just stubboness.
People can appear very nice and civil and then on certain issues just incapable
of seeing another perspective. And sometimes they will claim there is only one
legitimate view, when this is clearly not the case.
This is when the terms come in which describe this uncooperative behaviour
and frustration maybe appropriate. But then again, if it is just a wind up and
people being intentionally biased it is time to walk away.
No, their resurrection will bring about the completion of their salvation, but it began with their being chosen. called and justified.
Salvation is the whole process from beginning to end. The resurrection is only a part, albeit an important part, of that whole process, for those who are saved.
Salvation is the whole process from beginning to end. The resurrection is only a part, albeit an important part, of that whole process, for those who are saved.
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Amen brother we cannot boast of our own works but of the good works that are done in us by God to produce good fruit.
Give God all the glory
Do everything to honor God
Do everything in love
Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
God judges the hearts of men and not the actions.
Give God all the glory
Do everything to honor God
Do everything in love
Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
God judges the hearts of men and not the actions.
My struggle with the Spirit and self. When tornados left it's destruction in Albany GA I felt a great need to act and had the opportunity to do so.
The whole night before I was tired and kept trying to talk myself out of helping. The next morning I had successfully ignored the Spirit and slept in.
And so a few weeks later I had another opportunity. The same struggle but I chose to honor God instead of pleasing myself.
This is the real struggle of Christians between our fallen human nature and the Spirit that lives within.
God doesn't twist your arm into submission, no it's up to us to train ourselves in all things righteous
The whole night before I was tired and kept trying to talk myself out of helping. The next morning I had successfully ignored the Spirit and slept in.
And so a few weeks later I had another opportunity. The same struggle but I chose to honor God instead of pleasing myself.
This is the real struggle of Christians between our fallen human nature and the Spirit that lives within.
God doesn't twist your arm into submission, no it's up to us to train ourselves in all things righteous
There are two perspectives on our works
The first is our attempts at helping people without the Lord.
Then there is love of Jesus working through us to touch people in the Lord.
That is real love, the power of God at work, His body being Christ on earth.
Some people think they are mortal beings who are failed and feeble.
But God anoints us, takes us, remakes us, heals us, renews and cleanses us
so these people go the works of Jesus here and now.
Too many talk as if God does not work, or in God we do not have the victory.
In Gods time at the right time, He declares and moves, He anoints and raises
up His people to declare His Kingdom.
We are mere servants to our Lord and so we must obey and do His will.
It is strange how people declare so loudly they know the King yet are deaf
to His words, who in their own understanding fail to comprehend yet are certain
Gods word is wrong, and His intentions have been distorted and changed.
Woe to those who declared such things, woe to those who claimed they could
see and would overthrow the very Kingdom of the Most High.
The first is our attempts at helping people without the Lord.
Then there is love of Jesus working through us to touch people in the Lord.
That is real love, the power of God at work, His body being Christ on earth.
Some people think they are mortal beings who are failed and feeble.
But God anoints us, takes us, remakes us, heals us, renews and cleanses us
so these people go the works of Jesus here and now.
Too many talk as if God does not work, or in God we do not have the victory.
In Gods time at the right time, He declares and moves, He anoints and raises
up His people to declare His Kingdom.
We are mere servants to our Lord and so we must obey and do His will.
It is strange how people declare so loudly they know the King yet are deaf
to His words, who in their own understanding fail to comprehend yet are certain
Gods word is wrong, and His intentions have been distorted and changed.
Woe to those who declared such things, woe to those who claimed they could
see and would overthrow the very Kingdom of the Most High.
Acts 21:10-14New International Version (NIV)
10 After we had been there a number of days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea. 11 Coming over to us, he took Paul’s belt, tied his own hands and feet with it and said, “The Holy Spirit says, ‘In this way the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem will bind the owner of this belt and will hand him over to the Gentiles.’”
12 When we heard this, we and the people there pleaded with Paul not to go up to Jerusalem. 13 Then Paul answered, “Why are you weeping and breaking my heart? I am ready not only to be bound, but also to die in Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.” 14 When he would not be dissuaded, we gave up and said, “The Lord’s will be done.”
A true follower of Jesus. Hero of the faith. I believe if Paul had a song it would be this one
SIDEWALK PROPHETS LYRICS
"To Live Is Christ"
If I rise, let me rise on you
Not on all of my successes, my esteem or my pursuits
If I lose, let me lose my life
Cause if I belong to Jesus, the flesh is crucified
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ, to die is gain
If I grow, let me grow in You
Wilt the seeds of wanting more
Rippin' pride out by the roots
And if I'm still, let me hear You speak
Not the tone of my transgressions,
But the song of the Redeemed
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ, to die is gain
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ, to die is gain
My great desire is to be with You
But this is the place you chose for me
This is the place you chose for me
To lift my cross and give everything
This is the time you gave to me
This is the time you gave to me
For me to live is Christ, For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ, to die is gain
I'll never be the same, I'll never be the same
For me to live is Christ, to die is gain
10 After we had been there a number of days, a prophet named Agabus came down from Judea. 11 Coming over to us, he took Paul’s belt, tied his own hands and feet with it and said, “The Holy Spirit says, ‘In this way the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem will bind the owner of this belt and will hand him over to the Gentiles.’”
12 When we heard this, we and the people there pleaded with Paul not to go up to Jerusalem. 13 Then Paul answered, “Why are you weeping and breaking my heart? I am ready not only to be bound, but also to die in Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.” 14 When he would not be dissuaded, we gave up and said, “The Lord’s will be done.”
A true follower of Jesus. Hero of the faith. I believe if Paul had a song it would be this one
SIDEWALK PROPHETS LYRICS
"To Live Is Christ"
If I rise, let me rise on you
Not on all of my successes, my esteem or my pursuits
If I lose, let me lose my life
Cause if I belong to Jesus, the flesh is crucified
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ, to die is gain
If I grow, let me grow in You
Wilt the seeds of wanting more
Rippin' pride out by the roots
And if I'm still, let me hear You speak
Not the tone of my transgressions,
But the song of the Redeemed
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ, to die is gain
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ, to die is gain
My great desire is to be with You
But this is the place you chose for me
This is the place you chose for me
To lift my cross and give everything
This is the time you gave to me
This is the time you gave to me
For me to live is Christ, For me to live is Christ
For me to live is Christ, to die is gain
I'll never be the same, I'll never be the same
For me to live is Christ, to die is gain