Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer

[Sirk]

wher im truly at with your doctrin verses mine ?????????????

I believe in the complete and total finished work of Christ on the cross. I endeavor to make him (kurios) Lord and savior of my life for the sacrifice He has made for me. I accept His forgiveness and grace that he promised to me if I confess him with my lips and believe in my heart that he died and rose from the dead and conquered sin and death to make me presentable to God by His righteousness alone.

Not sure whats to hard to understand about that.

 

[Magenta]

Try re searching with the word Blessing.....

LOL. Why don't you just say what you mean?

 

[dcontroversal]

I believe in the complete and total finished work of Christ on the cross. I endeavor to make him (kurios) Lord and savior of my life for the sacrifice He has made for me. I accept His forgiveness and grace that he promised to me if I confess him with my lips and believe in my heart that he died and rose from the dead and conquered sin and death to make me presentable to God by His righteousness alone.

Not sure whats to hard to understand about that.

AMEN...biblical.......it is all JESUS.....when we interject ourselves and our works...we change the gospel into a lie with no power to save...Paul covers this in Galatians......rejected and swept under the rug by all who try to help Jesus save themselves.....

 

[JIMBO43]

I believe in the complete and total finished work of Christ on the cross. I endeavor to make him (kurios) Lord and savior of my life for the sacrifice He has made for me. I accept His forgiveness and grace that he promised to me if I confess him with my lips and believe in my heart that he died and rose from the dead and conquered sin and death to make me presentable to God by His righteousness alone.

Not sure whats to hard to understand about that.

Understand what that you have been saved ?..
You say your saved now do you understand that the saved will be justified..?

Now do you long for that day..do you wait patiently for it..

 

[Sirk]

Understand what that you have been saved ?..
You say your saved now do you understand that the saved will be justified..?

Now do you long for that day..do you wait patiently for it..

Now youre just adding to what Christ has already done and where you and I make an sharp departure. Not to mention that your gospel seems to always focus on others! Lol......Haha...That alone is enough to convince me that I wont be walking down any roads with you anytime soon. I don;t really care to associate people who's sole intent and purpose in life seems to be a desire to control others with their religion.

 

[dcontroversal]

Now youre just adding to what Christ has already done and where you and I make an sharp departure. Not to mention that your gospel seems to always focus on others! Lol......Haha...That alone is enough to convince me that I wont be walking down any roads with you anytime soon. I don;t really care to associate people who's sole intent and purpose in life seems to be a desire to control others with their religion.

AMEN again....not to mention that verb tense and context prove saved, justified, sealed and sanctified (positionally) are all a PRESENT reality.......

 

[JIMBO43]

Now youre just adding to what Christ has already done and where you and I make an sharp departure. Not to mention that your gospel seems to always focus on others! Lol......Haha...That alone is enough to convince me that I wont be walking down any roads with you anytime soon. I don;t really care to associate people who's sole intent and purpose in life seems to be a desire to control others with their religion.

Those who deny sin in the believer are those who also deny Gods truth..

Ill ask you one last time just answer yes or no.. do you wait patiently to have your faith Justified..

 

[Sirk]

Those who deny sin in the believer are those who also deny Gods truth..

Ill ask you one last time just answer yes or no.. do you wait patiently to have your faith Justified..

The only one that appears to be denying sin around here is you. Show me where I have ever denied the effects of the carnal man that still lives in me. And there you go...continually bloviating about working out someone else's salvation. Lol

I'll tell you honestly.....you will never convince me of your "gospel".....not ever. There is already too much of your flesh hanging off the decaying bones of it. Lol

 

[JIMBO43]

The only one that appears to be denying sin around here is you. Show me where I have ever denied the effects of the carnal man that still lives in me. And there you go...continually bloviating about working out someone else's salvation. Lol

I'll tell you honestly.....you will never convince me of your "gospel".....not ever. There is already too much of your flesh hanging off the decaying bones of it. Lol

ok would you consider waiting patiently for that day of salvation..

 

[BillG]

I believe in the complete and total finished work of Christ on the cross. I endeavor to make him (kurios) Lord and savior of my life for the sacrifice He has made for me. I accept His forgiveness and grace that he promised to me if I confess him with my lips and believe in my heart that he died and rose from the dead and conquered sin and death to make me presentable to God by His righteousness alone.

Not sure whats to hard to understand about that.

Thank you Jesus that it is all about you and not me.
You are greater than it all, love and mercy found me, oh the blood of Jesus is greater.

The reason some people find it hard is because they feel the need to add something to what Jesus has done.

Its like taking out an insurance policy. Just in case because they feel that when they stand before God and give an account of their lives they are worried they won't get in so then they can boast about their works in the vain vain hope.

This I know.

Jesus tells me that our Father loves me as much as he loves Jesus.


John 17:23
I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

Jesus is in me and our Father is in Jesus.

I will settle in the finished work of Jesus, place my faith in that and seek relationship with him.
What I do for him then comes from relationship because he loves me and I love him.

Thank you Jesus that you are greater than it all.

 

[Sirk]

ok would you consider waiting patiently for that day of salvation..

The sparrows wait patiently don't they?

 

[JIMBO43]

The sparrows wait patiently don't they?

what sparrows are you talking about as i dont know the mind of a bird.

 

[dcontroversal]

The sparrows wait patiently don't they?

All of creation groans and travails.......

 

[Sirk]

what sparrows are you talking about as i dont know the mind of a bird.

Seems your studies have been limited to the angry side of God. Don't you understand that He's not angry with you anymore if you have Jesus?

 

[BillG]

Those who deny sin in the believer are those who also deny Gods truth..

Ill ask you one last time just answer yes or no.. do you wait patiently to have your faith Justified..

Romans 5:9-10
Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

Simply put, to justify is to declare righteous, to make one right with God. Justification is God’s declaring those who receive Christ to be righteous, based on Christ’s righteousness being imputed to the accounts of those who receive Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

We are justified, declared righteous, at the moment of our salvation. Justification does not make us righteous, but rather pronounces us righteous. Our righteousness comes from placing our faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. His sacrifice covers our sin, allowing God to see us as perfect and unblemished. Because as believers we are in Christ, God sees Christ's own righteousness when He looks at us. This meets God's demands for perfection; thus, He declares us righteous—He justifies us.


Romans 3:21-24
God's Righteousness Through Faith
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

 

[dcontroversal]

Romans 5:9-10
Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

Simply put, to justify is to declare righteous, to make one right with God. Justification is God’s declaring those who receive Christ to be righteous, based on Christ’s righteousness being imputed to the accounts of those who receive Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

We are justified, declared righteous, at the moment of our salvation. Justification does not make us righteous, but rather pronounces us righteous. Our righteousness comes from placing our faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. His sacrifice covers our sin, allowing God to see us as perfect and unblemished. Because as believers we are in Christ, God sees Christ's own righteousness when He looks at us. This meets God's demands for perfection; thus, He declares us righteous—He justifies us.


Romans 3:21-24
God's Righteousness Through Faith
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Amen brother......thank God for the righteousness of Christ being applied by faith dia the blood.......

 

[JIMBO43]

Seems your studies have been limited to the angry side of God. Don't you understand that He's not angry with you anymore if you have Jesus?

all i asked was do you wait patiently for the day of redemption,, is that such a hard question ?.

I wait patiently for that day do you ?

and im not trying to work your salvation out im asking you if you hope for that glorious day..

 

[Sirk]

all i asked was do you wait patiently for the day of redemption,, is that such a hard question ?.

I wait patiently for that day do you ?

and im not trying to work your salvation out im asking you if you hope for that glorious day..

its a loaded question and you are trying to trap me. I answered you. You just don't "hear" my answer.

 

[JIMBO43]

Romans 5:9-10
Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

Simply put, to justify is to declare righteous, to make one right with God. Justification is God’s declaring those who receive Christ to be righteous, based on Christ’s righteousness being imputed to the accounts of those who receive Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

We are justified, declared righteous, at the moment of our salvation. Justification does not make us righteous, but rather pronounces us righteous. Our righteousness comes from placing our faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. His sacrifice covers our sin, allowing God to see us as perfect and unblemished. Because as believers we are in Christ, God sees Christ's own righteousness when He looks at us. This meets God's demands for perfection; thus, He declares us righteous—He justifies us.


Romans 3:21-24
God's Righteousness Through Faith
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Ive read this scripture and i know it applies to those who have been justified amen but this only speaks of the first justification.. the second justification is at the end..this clearly states nothing about the final justification on the last day it just says we shall be saved,, meaning the person who spoke this scripture into existence believed like you and me that he shall be saved ,,,,, why,,,,,,,,,,,because !!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE KNEW HE WAS SAVED AND HE WOULD KEEP HIS FAITH TO THE END.........

now that said none of theese scriptures mentions the day of redemption.. just we shall be saved... which is ok in my book to believe that...


BUT I STRESS THIS SHOULD NOT STOP YOU HOPING FOR SALVATION...

oh and well done billy for again reminding that we should hope,, by the way your mate dc disregaurds JAMES because he favors paul..ps think on mate... kindly.

 

[Sirk]

I miss redeemed right now man.