The Born of God

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That is a real easy question to answer...even for you.
 

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Jesus was begotten by God and Jesus was born when Mary gave birth to him.

Is this the truth?


at that prehistoric time of the first verse of John 1, the Word was not (yet) the Son of God.
He divested himself of His glory as a spirit divinity to be begotten as a human person.
He was made God’s Son, through being begotten or sired by God and born of the virgin Mary

Romans 1:4 (KJV)
And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness,
by the resurrection from the dead:

11But if [the Spirit of him] that raised up [Jesus] from the dead dwell in you,
[he]that raised up [Christ] from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies
by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
 
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at that prehistoric time of the first verse of John 1, the Word was not (yet) the Son of God.
He divested himself of His glory as a spirit divinity to be begotten as a human person.
He was made God’s Son, through being begotten or sired by God and born of the virgin Mary

Romans 1:4 (KJV)
And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness,
by the resurrection from the dead:

11But if [the Spirit of him] that raised up [Jesus] from the dead dwell in you,
[he]that raised up [Christ] from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies
by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
You do believe Jesus was begotten by God and Jesus was born when Mary gave birth to him.

Excellent because it is the truth.
 
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Jesus was the first born Son of God.

Is this true?
 
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He is not to be the last, will bring many sons to glory also
Do you believe that the spirit of the body of a woman and the body of a man have a gender?
Or do you believe a spirit is just a spirit no matter what the sex of the body?
 

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Do you believe that the spirit of the body of a woman and the body of a man have a gender?
Or do you believe a spirit is just a spirit no matter what the sex of the body?
the same spirit in men is in woman


the spirit in man

- this is not Gods holy spirit it's mans, [all humans- flesh and blood]


1 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth
the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

- science calls it youre concience, they can't see, or feel, or touch it, calling it human nature.

8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

- this it what imparts thought, it seperates mans brain and thoughts from animals instints,
but science cant understand it.

7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

this spirit in man, that makes us 100 times more superiour to animals,
if combined with Gods Holy spirit makes man complete person with God.



In Greek, as in English, the word spirit is neuter—neither masculine nor feminine in gender.
Pneuma is the Greek word meaning “spirit.” It is always grammatically neuter, properly
represented by the English pronoun “it” (John 1:32; Romans 8:16).

The Greek parakletos (comforter) is masculine in gender, so translators used the personal
pronouns he and him for the Greek masculine pronouns. In many languages, a word’s gender
has nothing to do with whether the thing itself is literally male or female. For example,
the Spanish word mesa (table) is feminine. Gender in language is a mere grammatical tool.
 
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Does our spirit have a gender? I can't think of anything in the bible that addresses that question...so I don't know.
 

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Does our spirit have a gender? I can't think of anything in the bible that addresses that question...so I don't know.
our physical bodies are male and female, the spirit in us is netruel
later we will be like angeles, not male or female
 

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There will be no one that is not born of water and of the Spirit. For it is written...

John
Chapter 3


5:Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit,
he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
I agree ! but Jesus also said 'except you be converted and 'become as little children, you shall not enter into the Kgd of heaven.
I think what needs to be considered here is that we are first ''children who need to learn before we can be ''adults to receive the HS. God always does things 'in order !
 

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I suspect you are going to find out first hand if you the converted will enter into the Kingdom of God.
I know the born of God will enter into the Kingdom of God.

I do not have any expertise concerning the salvation of the converted.
So I will not comment and leave that to your own personal experience
to which you will know one way or the other sooner of later if you are correct.
Why has it to be one OR the other ? conversion is an 'ongoing process during which we are 'begotten of God with/by His Holy Spirit....all things work together and we will know for sure when we are actually born of God in the resurrection from the dead ...not in this life.
 
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