I think that is a large part of where everything gets garbled. Some believe they are saved already because we are told we can know we are saved even though we do not put on immortality until after the resurrection and judgement of all. It is plain we need to persevere, but then we are also told that anyone who falls away was not truly among us to begin with. People who do fall away must be referring to those who are religious but lost. Jesus says those the Father gives Him will never be lost. Some see persevering as law keeping and a trying to maintain salvation of their own power, when obviously we do it through the power of Christ in us, as we abide in Him, for we can do nothing apart from Him. An objection is raised when those who claim they are saved by maintaining and abiding in their specific way, try to tell others that Christ enables them to succeed, or they abide of their own power and decision making abilities as if without the aid of Christ, but that Christ will obviously fail in keeping those who disagree with their exact interpretations, and they must of their own power make the changes required, in walking after His ways.
Sometimes I wonder if hitting my head against a brick wall is easier.
It does get frustrating to be pursued by people with their insights, not
recognising saying the same stuff 100 times means it is no longer an insight,
either it is true, and the person is not going to respond or it is simply wrong.
But it is worth it, because the claims made against normal simple believers
are so bad, quite a few believers I know would be devastated, literally by
such unwise language and extremes. I put this down to emotional immaturity,
and trying to find simple solutions to deep emotional trauma, and faith has
just got wrapped up in it.
What inspires me is the flip side, walking in power and authority, knowing
the Lords will and seeing how one can reach and help encourage His Kingdom.
Now I know of failure and struggle, people dying and often deep emotional trauma,
but not the opposite, revival, great moves of God, people burning in passion for Christ
and His word. And boy, would I love to see this and be a part of it. But this is Christs
promise, abide in the vine and you will be fruitful, Amen