How to prove that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

[posthuman]

here's another thing that blows up your theory.

the moon is a bowl, with its concave portion facing us?

a crescent moon occurs when the sunlight strikes the lip of the cup opposite the location of the sun?



then in this picture, taken at sunset, the sun is actually directly overhead.
it's noon. but it's sunset.

the sun is below the horizon. but for your model to work, it has to be directly overhead.

oops

 

[pckts]

here's another thing that blows up your theory.

the moon is a bowl, with its concave portion facing us?

a crescent moon occurs when the sunlight strikes the lip of the cup opposite the location of the sun?

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then in this picture, taken at sunset, the sun is actually directly overhead.
it's noon. but it's sunset.

the sun is below the horizon. but for your model to work, it has to be directly overhead.

oops

You believe the concave moon model is "debunked" because you do not understand it. There are just as many questions, you should have more actually, about the rock ball moon.

I hate debating the moon with people who believe the apollo footage is authentic. It's arguing facts and figures with people who believe in Santa Clause. If you think that pathetic, obviously studio filmed garbage is proof of space exploration and the rock ball moon, there isn't anything I can type into here to convince you otherwise.

Here is 3 minutes pointing out errors in the studio filmed hoax:
[video=youtube;Gem10A4yt5w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gem10A4yt5w[/video]

Figure out the easter bunny isn't real, and then we can start talking about reality together.

 

[pckts]

this would make the moons phases flipped for the southern hemisphere.

when the moon is full north of the equator, then it would be new south of the equator - the 'dark side' of the moon would be facing them.

think about what would be seen from the equator ((hint: it's a problem for you))

but the whole earth sees the same phases at all times.

also we would not see the same face all the time - the 'outside' of the bowl would be sunlit during every period other than a full moon, so some observers would be seeing half-moons ((the profile of the bowl)), with a different topography, at all times of the lunar cycle, depending on where they are.

you've also got a problem with how the moon is visible during daylight - which it is, roughly the same number of days per month as it is visible during the night.

and a problem with eclipses.

((debunked))

The moon phases are flipped in the southern hemisphere

Your understanding of your own false globe earth model is incorrect

You have been ((debunked))

 

[posthuman]

The moon phases are flipped in the southern hemisphere

Your understanding of your own false globe earth model is incorrect

You have been ((debunked))

you don't understand what you're talking about, once again.

you just proved yourself wrong, actually.

the moon appears inverted in the southern hemisphere - so right and left are transposed. that's what the image you posted shows.

the phases however are identical - when it is waxing gibbous in the north, it is waxing gibbous in the south, from the other direction. when it is full, it is full both in the north and the south. et cetera.

if your theory were true, it would be waning in the south when it waxes in the north, and a new moon in the south on the day it is full in the north.

along with all the other inconsistencies.

good job.
extraordinary.
you helped me prove yourself wrong, and while doing so, remained ignorant of it, thinking you had done the opposite. this is a good example for the rest of us as to how your lot's minds work -- useful for study. thanks.

 

[pckts]

you don't understand what you're talking about, once again.

you just proved yourself wrong, actually.

the moon appears inverted in the southern hemisphere - so right and left are transposed. that's what the image you posted shows.

the phases however are identical - when it is waxing gibbous in the north, it is waxing gibbous in the south, from the other direction. when it is full, it is full both in the north and the south. et cetera.

if your theory were true, it would be waning in the south when it waxes in the north, and a new moon in the south on the day it is full in the north.

along with all the other inconsistencies.

good job.
extraordinary.
you helped me prove yourself wrong, and while doing so, remained ignorant of it, thinking you had done the opposite. this is a good example for the rest of us as to how your lot's minds work -- useful for study. thanks.

You apply your ball rock model to the flat earth model, and expect me to defend why the people in the southern hemisphere do not see the "dark side" of the moon. You expect me to defend why they don't see the "dark side" of the moon, when I am telling you the moon is partially transparent concave bowl.

I posted the image to show you that the people in the southern hemisphere, indeed see flipped phases of the moon as compared to the north. Not the order of the phases flipped, because then the moon would not be the universal timekeeper that God gave us, but the phases themselves are flipped. I am not entirely convinced you knew this prior to me informing you.

Anyway, your argument that the earth isn't flat because people in the southern hemisphere would see the phases flipped is invalid, because they do indeed see the phases flipped. This flip has a different meaning on the ball rock globe earth model than the transparent concave bowl moon flat earth model.

 

[MattTooFor]

I gave an explanation for this and you rejected it without being able to expose one of these ten ton truck gaps in it. You just say no in different ways without saying why.

What in the world are you talking about? You're making zero sense. All due respect but...are you deliberately talking gibberish or something?

The moon is an object that gives off cold light and it is indeed transparent.

Oh, indeed -- LOL. The balderdash. My goodness. And in any case, how does this rebut the simple fact that New Zealanders see an 'upside down' moon compared to what we see in North America?

It could appear the way it does in the USA and New Zealand on a flat plane factoring all of that in using a "disc"(IDK what it is) rather than the moon you are familiar with that is a ball shaped rock that gets it's light from the sun and phases from the earth's shadow.

Again...what in the world are you talking about?? "Factoring all of that in using a disc"...whaaa? I'm sorry but...this, again, looks like deliberate mumbledy-jumbledy. This is somebody trying to get out of a tight spot...because of the simple and undeniable evidence that dozens of millions of people in New Zealand and Australia see an 'upside down' moon every night when they walk out under the stars...and thus conclusively proving the earth is a globe.

Here it is again. Take another look:

 

[pckts]

What in the world are you talking about? You're making zero sense. All due respect but...are you deliberately talking gibberish or something?

Oh, indeed -- LOL. The balderdash. My goodness. And in any case, how does this rebut the simple fact that New Zealanders see an 'upside down' moon compared to what we see in North America?

Again...what in the world are you talking about?? "Factoring all of that in using a disc"...whaaa? I'm sorry but...this, again, looks like deliberate mumbledy-jumbledy. This is somebody trying to get out of a tight spot...because of the simple and undeniable evidence that dozens of millions of people in New Zealand and Australia see an 'upside down' moon every night when they walk out under the stars...and thus conclusively proving the earth is a globe.

Here it is again. Take another look:

I understand your confusion. What I am saying is bizarre.

The fact that it is transparent is important, because it explains how the people of New Zealand are seeing a different image of the moon, yet same phase of the moon as we do at our same corresponding time in each respective timezone.

The Flat earth moon is not a sphere solid rock, it is a transparent possibly bowl shaped concave moon. So the people around the world will see a different side of this moon yet the phase will be maintained, because of this transparency.

 

[MattTooFor]

I understand your confusion. What I am saying is bizarre.

The fact that it is transparent is important, because it explains how the people of New Zealand are seeing a different image of the moon, yet same phase of the moon as we do at our same corresponding time in each respective timezone.

The Flat earth moon is not a sphere solid rock, it is a transparent possibly bowl shaped concave moon. So the people around the world will see a different side of this moon yet the phase will be maintained, because of this transparency.

Wow. You are STILL dodging the issue. A very, very simple issue. People in New Zealand are not seeing a "different side of the moon" -- LOL. They are seeing the moon UPSIDE DOWN compared to what we see in North America.

 

[GaryA]

They are seeing the moon UPSIDE DOWN compared to what we see in North America.

Not "upside down" ( which is a mirrored image ); rather, rotated ~180 degrees.

This is true for both 'globe' and 'flat' models.

 

[pckts]

Wow. You are STILL dodging the issue. A very, very simple issue. People in New Zealand are not seeing a "different side of the moon" -- LOL. They are seeing the moon UPSIDE DOWN compared to what we see in North America.

I'm not dodging the issue. I'm explaining the moon is a different object on the flat earth model than the moon you are familiar with, and both models present explanations as to why the moon and phases appear the way they do.

 

[MattTooFor]

I'm not dodging the issue. I'm explaining the moon is a different object on the flat earth model than the moon you are familiar with, and both models present explanations as to why the moon and phases appear the way they do.

You STILL haven't addressed the issue. And I predict you will NEVER address the issue...because there is no way on God's green earth for a flat-earther TO address the issue: New Zealanders see the moon 'upside down' compared to North Americans...because we are on a globe.

Nevertheless...God bless you!

 

[MattTooFor]

Not "upside down" ( which is a mirrored image ); rather, rotated ~180 degrees.

This is true for both 'globe' and 'flat' models.

Again, all due respect but...the 'garbling' seems to continue. No real idea what you're actually saying. But to the extent I am understanding you...you are incorrect:

Upside down is upside down...and a "mirror image" is a mirror image. Quite obviously those are two different things. What in the world??

You guys have absolutely no rebuttal here: New Zealanders see the moon 'upside down' (NOT a "mirror image") compared to North Americans...because we live on a globe.

 

[pckts]

You STILL haven't addressed the issue. And I predict you will NEVER address the issue...because there is no way on God's green earth for a flat-earther TO address the issue: New Zealanders see the moon 'upside down' compared to North Americans...because we are on a globe.

Nevertheless...God bless you!

We have no rebuttal and we will NEVER address the issue, because you dismiss and selectively ignore our rebuttals.

Rebuttal: As the concave transparent moon circles above the flat earth reflecting it's light and casting the shadow within itself that causes the phases, it appears the way it does above the USA due to it's position and our position viewing it, and then the moon continues to circle the earth and now appears above New Zealand at the same exact time we viewed it in the USA in their Time Zone, now that the concave transparent moon is in a different position than it was in when it was above the USA, and the people of New Zealand are in a different position than the people of the USA were in when they viewed the moon, image appears to be upside down.

It has to do with a complex object moving and people viewing it with two different reference points. I just explained it as simply as I could.

 

[Chokmahiel]

Lol well after watching this for a few days and having my Chokmah teased way too much, I have drawn up my theory.

 

[pckts]

Here is the moon in India

The Face of the moon is always the same, despite it's rotated position of the craters depending on the position you view it on the flat earth.

NASA tells you this is because the moon rotates at the same exact speed as it orbits the earth. This is BS to cover the error in the lies of their false model.

Since it appears to be transparent because we can see stars through it, I'm willing to believe this transparency is the real reason the face never changes. Concave Bowl IDK what it is, but it's not a sphere rock.

 

[pckts]

Lol well after watching this for a few days and having my Chokmah teased way too much, I have drawn up my theory.

The "Tree of Life" or Kaballah or whatever name you know it by, is Satanic, Evil, and promoted by the new age movement/agenda. You reference your "Chokmah" here so I assume you are a follower of this deception.

Are you a believer in the "Gnostic Gospels" as well?

 

[Chokmahiel]

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Here is the moon in India

The Face of the moon is always the same, despite it's rotated position of the craters depending on the position you view it on the flat earth.

NASA tells you this is because the moon rotates at the same exact speed as it orbits the earth. This is BS to cover the error in the lies of their false model.

Since it appears to be transparent because we can see stars through it, I'm willing to believe this transparency is the real reason the face never changes. Concave Bowl IDK what it is, but it's not a sphere rock.

Lol in my picture I made the moon have a face if you look closely.

 

[Chokmahiel]

The "Tree of Life" or Kaballah or whatever name you know it by, is Satanic, Evil, and promoted by the new age movement/agenda. You reference your "Chokmah" here so I assume you are a follower of this deception.

Are you a believer in the "Gnostic Gospels" as well?

Lol, Chokmah means wisdom in Hebrew.

You can assume whatever you want, though I find that kind of ironic.

 

[pckts]

Lol, Chokmah means wisdom in Hebrew.

You can assume whatever you want, though I find that kind of ironic.

Yeah referencing your "wisdom" as chokmah and saying you were having it "teased way too much", kind of through me for a loop. It's just cringy.

 

[Chokmahiel]

Yeah referencing your "wisdom" as chokmah and saying you were having it "teased way too much", kind of through me for a loop. Even though it's not satanic, it's very cringeworthy to speak in this way.

Oh snap, I didn't even realize that pun. Well played sir, you win.