Believers aren't that much different from non-believers when it comes to sin then. The difference is only that this set of sinners Believers aren't that much different from non-believers when it comes to sin then.
Yes the wage of sin (one) is eternal damnation for either. One set forgiven, the other mercy was not applied.
The difference is only that this set of sinners have faith in Christ. As rosy as that sounds and as self-deprecating as some are, God's word doesn't paint this picture.
As rosy as it is (the glory of God according to the grace of God ) it is not subject to change. You should rejoice in the gospel rather than make it a sad occasion.
Its principle as a law not a opinion subject to change . Two masters, faith or works? Grace or death?
One set of sinners (the forgiven ones) has the faith of Christ in respect to his finished work that makes us perfect/ complete. That work of His faith (not of our own selves) is not after something we could do .We continue to walk by faith (Christ's in us) all the days of our new born again lives.
We have the authority of that faith in us but are never to assume it could be us. As long as we live in a body of sin we are subject to its desires. God gives us a new heart and a new spirit that will never die at our rebirth. To have the work of Christ’s faith that works in us in respect to our own selves or others is simply to blaspheme the Holy name by which we are called.
We are not like the world, we are not supposed to be walking in the flesh (though at times we do). To simply ascertain that we sin just as much if not more than people who do not have Christ, then something is utterly wrong in our approach.
It’s not the amount of sin that determines if God will send a strong delusion to believe a lie or as a new creature ..call the person back to repentance over and over all the days of their life. One sin demands eternal damnation and not how often one does sin living in a body of sin..
To sin in the least is to be held responsible for the whole wage of sin.
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in
one point, he is
guilty of all.
It His grace according to His faith that works in us to both will and do his good pleasure that can teach us to say no to ungodliness. Without His grace there would be nothing that would a turn a person towards God who has no form so that then after they are turned by God they could repent, as a work of Christ working in us .
This is again to both will and do his good pleasure. For it is God who can make our hearts soft.
For the
grace of God that "bringeth" salvation hath appeared to all men,Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Tit 2:11
If you look at the fruit of a believer and that of a non-believer and find them to be equal in conduct, something is awry.
Its when He sees the fruit. Just like the Exodus when he sees the blood not when we think we see it. Its truth before we believe and not after something we could do, with could be fruit. Like the man in Mathew 7 .He did preform what he claimed ,prophecy in the name of Christ which as prophecy could cast out demons(God is not served by human hands). He can use a believer to work out His will as easily as one who has no faith. God called him a
worker of inquity . Its what blaspheming produces making the cross without effect.
Yes the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven because men cannot see into the hearts of each other as to whether God is with them or not. If he began the good work of salvation he will finish it. .
There is a verse that speaks of a believer having sin that not even the pagans have. Yet, this is carnal Christianity. This is a babe in Christ having yet matured.
It does not say he was not mature .Just that he violated a law and was used as an example, nothing more and nothing less.
Mature Christians are provided the same grace that came from the same work of Christ’s faith ,as a labor of His love in the new believer.
If the mature sin, which all men do, the wage of that one sin remains "eternal damnation". By the grace of Christ we have been delivered from these bodies of sin that show us as sinners. We never outgrow our need for the milk of the word, it (not works we perform) teaches us that God is gracious.
This is someone who hasn't been in their walk long, and been progressively sanctified. Such a person needs to awake to righteousness and sin not. They need to walk out their identity in Christ. They need to renew their mind. Just because it exists doesn't mean that it should be the case. They shouldn't be using their liberty as an occasion for the flesh, but to use their members for righteousness.
If they have eternal life they can. and do use the liberty. (its called sinning.)
Christ is the one who gives us a new spirit by which we
can renew our minds .Without that grace we would have nothing to turn us so that then after we are turned we
could repent.
True repentance is a work of God ,not of our own selves lest any man say they turned God.
The point being, to say that we sin daily paints a very sad tale. It paints a picture to those in sin, the world, that the burdens that so oppress them are still yet burdens in Christ. This shouldn't be so!
Should'nt be as ideology and the fact that me do .are two different things. One theory the other law.
Yes it was sad when God corrupted the old creation because of one sin. It is the wrath of God that is being revealed daily. Not a pretty picture..
What hope do we offer those in darkness if we claim to be of the light and yet present ourselves as being in the shadows?
We do have that living hope in us it will never disappoint a true Christian who have passed from death (never to rise to new life) to eternal life (those who will rise).
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.Rom 7:24
. As rosy as that sounds and as self-deprecating as some are, God's word doesn't paint this picture.
One set of sinners (the forgiven ones) has the faith of Christ in respect to his finished work that makes us perfect/ complete. That work of his faith (not of our own selves) is not after something we could do .We have the authority of that faith in us but are never to assume it could be us. As long as we live in a body of sin we are subject to its desires. God gives us a new heart and a new spirt that will never die at our rebirth. To have the work of Christ’s faith that works in us in respect to our own selves or other is simply to blaspheme the Holy name by which we are called.
We are not like the world, we are not supposed to be walking in the flesh (though at times we do). To simply ascertain that we sin just as much if not more than people who do not have Christ, then something is utterly wrong in our approach.
It’s not the amount of sin that determines if God will send a strong delusion to believe a lie or as a new creature call the person bac to repentance over and over all the days of their life. One sin demands eternal damnation. To sin in the least is to be held responsible for the whole wage of sin. It His grace according to His faith that works in us to both will and do his good pleasure that can teach us to say no to ungodliness. Without His grace there would be nothing that would a turn a person towards God who has no form so that then they could repent as a work of Christ working in us .again to both will and do his good pleasure.
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Tit 2:11
If you look at the fruit of a believer and that of a non-believer and find them to be equal in conduct, something is awry.
Yes the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven because men cannot see into the hearts of each other as to whether God is with them or not. If he began the good work of salvation he will finish it. .
There is a verse that speaks of a believer having sin that not even the pagans have. Yet, this is carnal Christianity. This is a babe in Christ having yet matured.
Mature Christians are provided the same grace that came from the same work of Christ’s faith as a labor of His love then the new believer. If the mature sin which all men do the wage of that one sin remains eternal damnation. By the grace of Christ we have been delivered from these bodies of sin that show us as sinners. We never outgrow our need for the milk of the word it teaches us that God is gracious.
This is someone who hasn't been in their walk long, and been progressively sanctified. Such a person needs to awake to righteousness and sin not. They need to walk out their identity in Christ. They need to renew their mind. Just because it exists doesn't mean that it should be the case. They shouldn't be using their liberty as an occasion for the flesh, but to use their members for righteousness.
If they have eternal life they can.
Christ is the one who gives us a new spirit by which we
can renew our minds .Without that grace we would have nothing to turn us so that then after we are turned we
could repent. The unbeliever receives the strong delusion.
True repentance is a work of God ,not of our own selves lest any man say they turned God.
The point being, to say that we sin daily paints a very sad tale. It paints a picture to those in sin, the world, that the burdens that so oppress them are still yet burdens in Christ. This shouldn't be so!
Yes it was sad when God corrupted the old creation because of
one sin. It is the wrath of God that is being revealed daily. Not a pretty picture..
What hope do we offer those in darkness if we claim to be of the light and yet present ourselves as being in the shadows?
We have that living hope in us.it will never disappoint a true Christian who have passed from death (never to rise to new life) to eternal life (those who will rise).
O wretched man that I am!
who shall deliver
me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh
"the law of sin".Rom 7:24 (The law of sin , not theory, is still one sin equals eternal, damnation, no limbo )