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Roughsoul1991

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We are told if we love God we will follow his teachings. Love biblically is a sacrificial love. Love by definition is a noun and a verb.

Noun-feeling
Verb-action
 
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Roughsoul1991 said:
We are told if we love God we will follow his teachings. Love biblically is a sacrificial love. Love by definition is a noun and a verb.

Noun-feeling
Verb-action
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but we never wholly love God, that is our problem
 
Roughsoul1991

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eternally-gratefull said:
I did not ask you, that, I asked you how you think you can love God perfectly..

Huge difference.
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Simple a love for God revolves a round our sacrificial obedience to follow his leading. We persevere in our obedience that holds its foundation in faith. A bondservent we sacrifice and deny ourselves to do the will of God. Not because it saves us but because of our love for our creator we are drawn to do his will.

And in his perfection we are to live as Christ and strive to perfection which is the perseverance of obedience to Christ. Because what comes of obedience is God completing the work he does in us. This is why follow is such great importance after we believe.

Dont follow and your faith is fake
 
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Roughsoul1991 said:
Simple a love for God revolves a round our sacrificial obedience to follow his leading. We persevere in our obedience that holds its foundation in faith. A bondservent we sacrifice and deny ourselves to do the will of God. Not because it saves us but because of our love for our creator we are drawn to do his will.

And in his perfection we are to live as Christ and strive to perfection which is the perseverance of obedience to Christ. Because what comes of obedience is God completing the work he does in us. This is why follow is such great importance after we believe.

Dont follow and your faith is fake
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and again I will ask you, WHat makes you think you can love God wholly?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
and again I will ask you, WHat makes you think you can love God wholly?
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EG - are you encouraging someone to love God, or question whether they
can love God properly?

I know in Christ, He teaches my heart to raise praise to the King as an sacrificial
offering of praise, Holy and acceptable to Him, Amen.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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PeterJens said:
EG - are you encouraging someone to love God, or question whether they
can love God properly?

I know in Christ, He teaches my heart to raise praise to the King as an sacrificial
offering of praise, Holy and acceptable to Him, Amen.
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lol. I am asking someone to be honest. With himself..

I know Christ too.. I also know myself.. Maybe thats where you run into problems?
 
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Roughsoul1991 said:
Yah he just jealous lol
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Jealous of what? Admitting I need grace and Gods salvation because I know I do not love as he is and loves? and in turn, Never think I made it, but keep running the race?

Nah, Maybe your jealous?
 
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Do I love God wholly? probably not.

But, that's no excuse to cover my failure because of not trying.

So, try I must.
 
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Stephen63 said:
Do I love God wholly? probably not.

But, that's no excuse to cover my failure because of not trying.

So, try I must.
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and everyone here would agree with you.

If only you could see that.
 
Roughsoul1991

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eternally-gratefull said:
Jealous of what? Admitting I need grace and Gods salvation because I know I do not love as he is and loves? and in turn, Never think I made it, but keep running the race?

Nah, Maybe your jealous?
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Just kidding bro but no seriously this thread is about works dont save us. Which I had just agreed with. Stating We persevere in our obedience that holds its foundation in faith. And any faith without obedience is no faith at all. If we are to have genuine faith good works are included as our obedience allows God to use the Spirit in us. No faith or an apostasy in faith will end the same way.

So all this proved was some on here just love to argue.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Roughsoul1991 said:
Just kidding bro but no seriously this thread is about works dont save us. Which I had just agreed with. Stating We persevere in our obedience that holds its foundation in faith. And any faith without obedience is no faith at all. If we are to have genuine faith good works are included as our obedience allows God to use the Spirit in us. No faith or an apostasy in faith will end the same way.

So all this proved was some on here just love to argue.
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I agree, Faith will always have works, If I claim to have faith, but have no works, I am deceived, My faith was non existent.

as for our discussion.. I just asked a question.
 
PeterJens

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Roughsoul1991 said:
Just kidding bro but no seriously this thread is about works dont save us. Which I had just agreed with. Stating We persevere in our obedience that holds its foundation in faith. And any faith without obedience is no faith at all. If we are to have genuine faith good works are included as our obedience allows God to use the Spirit in us. No faith or an apostasy in faith will end the same way.

So all this proved was some on here just love to argue.
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They are on a mission of conflict, to shine a light where they believe evil lies,
except invariably it is there conflict that they highlight, ironic that.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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PeterJens said:
They are on a mission of conflict, to shine a light where they believe evil lies,
except invariably it is there conflict that they highlight, ironic that.
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Thanks Peter. You just made me laugh.

ps. Whats your mission?

My mission is to share Christ.
 
PeterJens

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eternally-gratefull said:

lol. I am asking someone to be honest. With himself..
I know Christ too.. I also know myself.. Maybe thats where you run into problems?
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I wonder if your continual challenging is just because you have a challenging
nature, nothing to do with faith it is just your personality.

I wonder if we can fully understand our Praise of the King, because when our
hearts soar, they soar in praise and worship.

Amen to anyone who worships God,

For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.
Hosea 6:6
 
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Stephen63 said:
Said like a true sinner who wants the blame bounced on the one who called out their sin. Every sinner & self-righteous hypocrite does that.

So, we see in this thread that you sin & in your eyes, your sin don't stink in the nostrils of God. God just forgives them now & in the future so you sin any way you want.


Maybe you need to go back & read how you egged your brother on in here to sin & sin more, as well as mock him for doing it.



Again, this is deflection of your sin & accusing the one who called you out on your sin. Everyone who doesn't believe in OSAS & Hyp------e gets the same treatment.

You can treat someone like a dog & it's alright, cause your sin don't stink. The epitome of a self -righteous bigot.
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Mate your 100 percent right he is a mocker... im beginning to see that.. best just to ignor him i think..
 
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