Six Conundrums of Socialism

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Socialism is a tool for those that want totalitarian control over people's lives. EVERY aspect of it.
Exactly. It's just an empty promise that can never become true so that the less cunning will give the more cunning their money and their rights.
 
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Between the ever advancing indoctrination in our school system, and the allure of santa claus gov. giving free stuff, it's amazing to me we haven't reached the tipping point yet!
Lol do I tell them Santa Clause isn't real either?
 
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what comes out on paper, and what the 'facts' or 'sounds-good' in theory might be,
it doesn't reflect the theory of the philosophy or count that human-nature doesn't WORK
100% of the time with 'any-man-made-philosophy'...:eek::rolleyes:
 

Billyd

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Utah, don't be so harsh.


The extra carbon dioxide is good for the plants.
I believe that it's carbon monoxide, coupled with sulfur dioxide instead of carbon dioxide. Every thing they want to do stinks, and in the long term deadly.
 
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Again, not true..............sorry........Perfection IS NOT a REQUIREMENT for something/someone to exist. By your standard NOTHING/NO ONE exists............or...........EVER HAS existed.

Only God is perfect...........and by God, I include the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.

Your argument is nothing more than word play at best and strawman at worst.
I can't take much more of this. I've never agreed more with Bama than on this thread. What's up with that!
 
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If they're not perfectly socialist, if socialism has never been perfected and can never be perfected; then what are they really?
A person guilty of attempted murder is still a murderer at heart. Imperfect results of socialism is still socialism.
 
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Lol you can't see, feel, smell, taste, hear, or touch socialism. Even you say it isn't perfect, and so I just logically conclude it doesn't exist. Sure there are governments that say they are going to be socialist one day, but they never can get there. Well why can't they get there? They can't get there because it's not real, the destination does not exist. They're selling a cruise to no where.
Cant feel socialism? It takes a huge bite out of my mule each week because my hard earned dollars are extorted from me and are given able-bodied people who don't want to work. You must be on the receiving end.
 
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Cant feel socialism? It takes a huge bite out of my mule each week because my hard earned dollars are extorted from me and are given able-bodied people who don't want to work. You must be on the receiving end.
Well you would be guessing wrongly. Sounds like you believe a lot more in socialism than I do.
 

Tommy379

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Well you would be guessing wrongly. Sounds like you believe a lot more in socialism than I do.
This statement doesn't make sense. Unless you are going for the " I know you are, but what am I?" Defense.
 
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This statement doesn't make sense. Unless you are going for the " I know you are, but what am I?" Defense.
Okay let me clarify then.

1. I have never been on welfare despite the allegation.

2. I don't believe in socialism, I don't believe it even exists. I think if you fear socialism and are so insistent on its existence that you probably believe in it to a certain degree. I don't really see a point in being scared of something that isn't even real. Such fables only have as much power over you as you give them.
 
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Okay let me clarify then.

1. I have never been on welfare despite the allegation.

2. I don't believe in socialism, I don't believe it even exists. I think if you fear socialism and are so insistent on its existence that you probably believe in it to a certain degree. I don't really see a point in being scared of something that isn't even real. Such fables only have as much power over you as you give them.
28 years old and clueless about the greatest threat to America; that's sad beyond belief. You seem to have a good spirit about you, Chok, unless of course you're just deliberately being cunning, in which case it would side you with the Enemy.

Remember, someone doesn't have to be a victim of a violent crime in order to understand violence exists. It exists regardless of whether the person believes it exists or not. Same with socialism. Get with the program, grasshopper.
 
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28 years old and clueless about the greatest threat to America; that's sad beyond belief. You seem to have a good spirit about you, Chok, unless of course you're just deliberately being cunning, in which case it would side you with the Enemy.

Remember, someone doesn't have to be a victim of a violent crime in order to understand violence exists. It exists regardless of whether the person believes it exists or not. Same with socialism. Get with the program, grasshopper.
How can something that is not real be the greatest threat to America? See this comment is exactly what I mean when I say if you fear the fable you have a certain amount of belief in it. Because you have a certain amount of belief in it you let it control you to a certain degree.

Now I suppose indeed socialism like any other lie is of the Enemy. The Enemy is going to try to move you one way or the other to believe in his lie. Either you will embrace socialism and you will give up your possessions, your rights, and even your life in vain to try to realize it. Or you will believe in socialism but in the way that it is the boogeyman, and throw away your possessions, your rights, and even your life in vain to try to fight it. Either way you are still caught by the Enemy because he has convinced you that the lie is real.

I think the better solution is to simply resist the Enemy and his lie. His lie of socialism is not real, it is nothing to be desired or fearful of.
 
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How can something that is not real be the greatest threat to America? See this comment is exactly what I mean when I say if you fear the fable you have a certain amount of belief in it. Because you have a certain amount of belief in it you let it control you to a certain degree.

Now I suppose indeed socialism like any other lie is of the Enemy. The Enemy is going to try to move you one way or the other to believe in his lie. Either you will embrace socialism and you will give up your possessions, your rights, and even your life in vain to try to realize it. Or you will believe in socialism but in the way that it is the boogeyman, and throw away your possessions, your rights, and even your life in vain to try to fight it. Either way you are still caught by the Enemy because he has convinced you that the lie is real.

I think the better solution is to simply resist the Enemy and his lie. His lie of socialism is not real, it is nothing to be desired or fearful of.
And with that, my hands are washed of your deliberate stupidity.
 
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And with that, my hands are washed of your deliberate stupidity.
When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude
 
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How can something that is not real be the greatest threat to America? See this comment is exactly what I mean when I say if you fear the fable you have a certain amount of belief in it. Because you have a certain amount of belief in it you let it control you to a certain degree.

Now I suppose indeed socialism like any other lie is of the Enemy. The Enemy is going to try to move you one way or the other to believe in his lie. Either you will embrace socialism and you will give up your possessions, your rights, and even your life in vain to try to realize it. Or you will believe in socialism but in the way that it is the boogeyman, and throw away your possessions, your rights, and even your life in vain to try to fight it. Either way you are still caught by the Enemy because he has convinced you that the lie is real.

I think the better solution is to simply resist the Enemy and his lie. His lie of socialism is not real, it is nothing to be desired or fearful of.

Well fable or not,lie or not,failure or not the Nazis exterminated over 6 million Jews and others they had a distaste for.Hitler killed himself as a disgraced leader and a failure. Yet those sitting in concentration camps would beg to differ that the Nazis were a failure. The same goes for socialism. Venezuelas people are starving,literally, they believe socialism exists.Failure doesn't mean something doesn't exist. The premise and promise of socialism is a lie but it has torn down countries and caused all sorts of misery,including deaths just the same.
 
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Well fable or not,lie or not,failure or not the Nazis exterminated over 6 million Jews and others they had a distaste for.Hitler killed himself as a disgraced leader and a failure. Yet those sitting in concentration camps would beg to differ that the Nazis were a failure. The same goes for socialism. Venezuelas people are starving,literally, they believe socialism exists.Failure doesn't mean something doesn't exist. The premise and promise of socialism is a lie but it has torn down countries and caused all sorts of misery,including deaths just the same.
Right, it's a Ponzi Scheme. It doesn't exist, it can never be realized. Just like Nazism. The only thing that happens is a bunch of people become victims of the delusion. Just like Hitler's notions of Aryan superiority were not true and never became true, so also socialism. It was all just a ploy to give Hitler power and for his opponents that also believed in it but feared it like Stalin to demonize the West, but even then he really didn't have true power seeing as he ended up having to kill himself and his Ponzi Scheme, like all Ponzi Schemes collapsed in on itself.

No lie is of the truth.
 

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Right, it's a Ponzi Scheme. It doesn't exist, it can never be realized. Just like Nazism. The only thing that happens is a bunch of people become victims of the delusion. Just like Hitler's notions of Aryan superiority were not true and never became true, so also socialism. It was all just a ploy to give Hitler power and for his opponents that also believed in it but feared it like Stalin to demonize the West, but even then he really didn't have true power seeing as he ended up having to kill himself and his Ponzi Scheme, like all Ponzi Schemes collapsed in on itself.

No lie is of the truth.
you know what happens with schemes?? people fall for them. so, real or not, millions of people have fell and are falling for the scheme of socialism.